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    • It's a really interesting question, and one that does come around reasonably regularly - so you may find some other helpful responses from a site search (note that you can use quotation marks and advanced search for phrases). I note that you've asked about telling someone who's a non-fetishist.   And you've mentioned previous dates, so I and some of the other responses are all assuming we're talking about introducing and explaining our interest to a sexual partner who isn't into (or hasn't opened up about) any kinks.    There's a bit of a catch-22 as other people have hinted, and I know certain members have experienced.   You want to be honest and upfront about yourself.  Not just from a 'getting some action' perspective, but that it seems the right thing to do to be honest from the outset.   But conversely, the longer you know someone, the more you'll trust them - that they aren't going to kink shame or similarly humiliate you. My thoughts and suggestions would be: - Put yourself in their perspective - "watersports" doesn't have a great reputation and is widely misunderstood outside our community.   We all know that every one of us has a subtly different take on our kink, different things that tick our box.  It's like me saying "I like cars"....     Driving cars?   Next generation hypercars or vintage cars?   Motor-racing ?   Rallying ?  Maintaining my own?   Or am I talking building model cars?   See what I mean ?    So, if you said you were into pee, in your mind you may be about to go on to say that your fantasy is to see them shyly giggling as they wee on your hand or leg in the shower - but at the first half sentence they immediately jumped to THEIR perception - thinking you're some kind of sicko who intends to tie them up, degrade and waterboard them with disgusting smelly piss.  Because that's what they think your kink is. - You've said they're a non-fetishist.  Again that may be their perception of what a fetish is...   And during the sort of pillow-talk conversation, what are their fantasies ?   I don't mean anything wild, just a gentle interest...  something they've thought about but not been brave enough or had the opportunity to do.   Maybe making out under the stars, maybe an impromptu being fondled somewhere public.   Maybe they get a tingle seeing someone in leather trousers.   Things that you can role-play on and build into your fun time together.   They may not have formulated what it is that really works for them, but they deserve to be indulged.  They may be harbouring that kink because it seems silly and they're embarrassed about confessing - does that sound familiar ?  But if they're happy to open up, then it gives you chance to do the same. - Choose your moment carefully - not when they're in the kitchen with a sharp cleaver in their hand.  I'm joking - but a moment when they're receptive.   I used the term pillow-talk in the previous point for a deliberate reason. - I don't know, but it feels like the whole pee thing may be more easily accepted if you put it in a way 'it's strange, and I've no idea why, but...' because let's face it - many of us don't really know what reasons we find pee so attractive.  It just seems like it's easier to accept than if we're blunt about 'this is what I want'. - Keep it varied - you know and I know that pee talk / play is the cherry on top of the icing (frosting) on top of the cake.   But if it becomes apparent they have to play that game every single time, it could get very wearying very quickly.  And could be quite a turn-off for them.   As opposed to something that's running through your mind, encouraging you, and being brought into the open now and then.
    • I would suggest that it might be the case that you maybe don't NEED to explain it ahead of time; perhaps it might even be better to avoid explaining in advance. If they WANT an explanation, they'll ask, and then you can give it. I've personally had success with just asking point blank to get peed on after round 1 sex. That way, if you've done your job right, your partner is sure to be in a sexy mood and might even feel like they're willing to try it just to please you. Asking spur-of-the-moment comes across as a spontaneous and adventurous suggestion, rather than demanding or pleading. Spontaneous and adventurous = fun and sexy; demanding and/or pleading = uncomfortable and un-sexy. When you ask, try to be nonchalant about it if you can, almost like you just now thought of it for the first time as something you want to try. I would specifically ask them to do it in the bathtub/shower to minimize the chance that they'll feel uncomfortable about making a mess. I think that will give you the best chance of getting a yes. Of course they might turn you down; if so, then my advice is to back off immediately, don't push it at all, don't bring it up again for AT LEAST a week, and make sure you continue to satisfy them completely. The logic here is that, if you do a great job pleasing your partner, then (if they're a good partner) they'll want to please you in return; they might just need a bit of time to get comfortable with the idea on their own. If you're going to explain it, I have a few thoughts. (1) I would be sure to tell them at some point that pee is completely sterile (it's important to know that pee play will never make anybody sick, and lots of people don't know that already). (2) I would recommend you offer to always be the one to take care of any cleanup that might be necessary (I'm sure you'll agree it's TOTALLY worth it). (3) As for what you said about needing pee to get really turned on, and how you feel like sex without pee is disappointing in comparison - hey man, I get it, NOTHING turns me on like pee does, but I would urge you to keep those comments to yourself if at all possible, reason being I think it's gonna come across as insulting even though you don't mean it as an insult (my guess is that's why you got the "I should be enough for you" response). Other than that just be your authentic self and tell her what you want. Just my two cents but again this has worked for me a few times. More often than not, actually. All that being said, bear in mind that some people are just never going to be willing. In that case, you'll have to choose either to give up on pee sex, or give up on that particular partner. Now go get that sweet piss my friend! 😎
    • Time for some more birthdays....    Time to party like it's 1999 (that's the size of the bathroom line, time to improvise). Anyway - Huge Birthday Wishes to @Naughts & @GoldenKid Have a great day.
    • Non hairy! Shows the wetness better😋
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