Would You Cheat on Your Partner in Order to Satisfy Your Pee Fetish?

[Kirby23 956]

For those of you in a committed relationship - Let's assume your significant other / partner is not interested in pee, and/or doesn't know about your fetish, etc. Would you cheat on your significant other in order to engage in pee-related activities?

Which activities would you be willing to do? What do you consider cheating (where do you draw the line)?

Are you more concerned with the logistics of it (I'm afraid I'd get caught) or with the ethics of it (it's wrong, regardless)?

Please feel free to add details (type of relationship, length of time in relationship, marital status, etc.).

 

[Kirby23 956]

I've been in a committed relationship for 15+ years with a woman who is very much not into my fetish. So it's something I've thought about from time-to-time. Not in terms of "Should I cheat on her?" but more in terms of "if a situation presented itself, how far would I go?"

I watch pee porn, I've talked to female friends about pee-related topics, and I frequent this site, none of which I consider cheating.

But let's say I had an oppourtunity to watch a girl pee. Would I do it? Probably. Is it cheating? I don't know, it depends on the specifics. Is she a stranger? Is it a friend at a party? (etc.)

I just think it's an interesting topic to mull over.

[Guest Wetling]

Definitely not. Being in a relationship means that your significant other puts a huge part of his live in your hands, because he trusts you with it, and cheating leaves scars on a soul that sometimes never heal. That sounds melodramatic but is just the truth. I think love means to care for somebody else's feelings, not just my own. How could I do to someone the most hurtful thing a partner could possibly do and still pretend to love him? It would make of me a person I don't want to be. And this is what cheating is to me: Doing things of which I know they would hurt my partner and deny him the right to make his own decission about it by not even telling him, which means lying.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Wetling

[Alpian 689]

Some very interesting considerations in this thread. So assuming you are in a longterm relation with a significant other. This person does not share your interest in pee and doesn't want to get involved. Now, where is the limit, what is ok, what isn't?

From experience, everyone has their own definition of what cheating is and what love means. Is it cheating to watch someone else when it turns you (or your partner)? Does cheating involve interaction with a third person? What kind of interaction?

It can be hard to discuss these points with a partner. At the beginning, you don't want to risk the budding relationship, and later you take things for granted and routines are hard to change. Now assume my girlfriend were not into peeing and would not want to participate, not let me watch etc. In that case, the only option she'd have would be to accept me enjoying my fetish without her. We'd need to negotiate what that means: only fantasies? written stories? visual porn, only stills or also video? this forum? contact with like-minded people? secretly or openly watching others pee? having a piss-play only relationship beside her?

Many difficult questions and a hard compromise to make. But it would have to be a compromise with both sides giving. After all, what is love? It is not only not hurting your partner, it is also understanding your partner and granting them the liberties they need to be happy. But love can't last if you don't love yourself, if you don't respect your own feelings, if you are not aware of your own limits. And for my part, I would not be able to deny my fascination for peeing women. I'd be lying if I pretended otherwise. My partner would have a right to know about this limit and I would respect her feelings about it, but if she were not at all interested in living this kink together, she'd need to grant me some way out. I'd be happy to compromise elsewhere.

[Guest Wetling]

8 hours ago, Alpian said:

We'd need to negotiate what that means: only fantasies? written stories? visual porn, only stills or also video? this forum? contact with like-minded people? secretly or openly watching others pee? having a piss-play only relationship beside her?

Like that. Talk is key. If she knows, it's not cheating, and you can commune what's ok and if you both want to continue the relationship on these terms or not. Of course breaking up hurts as well, but at least it's honest and you would know she isn't the right partner for you then, and won't be using her under false pretense. But maybe you will be surprised what's possible in a relationship based on trust.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Wetling

[Ilovepeestains 482]

I've had this talk with my longtime partner, who is not into pee. We are able to discuss it, but although she doesn't want to know details of my fetish behavior, she accepts that it's my fetish and that I do it alone.

She would never tolerate me hooking up with someone else to pee. And I wouldn't want to throw away everything we've built together for the sake of temporary pleasure. I don't want to hurt her or damage our relationship.

What I do online, or who I talk to online, is acceptable. But no in-person hookups or cheating. And I don't even try.

I do feel sad sometimes that I can't share this in person with someone else. But if not for the Internet, I wouldn't even be aware that others have this fetish.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Ilovepeestains

[gap 392]

No can’t do that if I’m with someone wish I could 

[Dante_Heart 131]

I've been lucky enough to find a partner who, while he's not into it, is willing to let me go on him or our floors as long as it's just us and we clean up right away, but even if he wasn't, I'd never even consider cheating to satisfying that kink. 

[WillAndSarah 197]

We strongly feel that you should reveal your fetish to your partner. The earlier you can reveal it (without being overly pushy/awkward about it), the better.

For us, it was originally his fetish, which he introduced to her. If he had not done this, then he never would've had a chance to be completely sexually satisfied, as he is (and we are) now. We are convinced: OUR MARRIAGE WOULD HAVE ALREADY FAILED BY NOW IF HE HAD KEPT HIS FETISH A SECRET!

During the first 2 years of our marriage - before we really started exploring and embracing this fetish - he just HAD to have porn. She just wasn't enough for him as she was; and he needed something more; and this caused a great deal of strife and more than a few fights between us.

 

All of that stopped - and, so far, with 3 years and counting, has never happened again - when she discovered that he was really just so thoroughly parched throughout the relationship; that all of his porn was heavily pee-focused, and that he needed it to fulfill repressed desires that he thought too shameful or too weird to ever be fulfilled.

 

He wants to tell you that you deserve it. You deserve a partner who will satisfy your desires. He could not have been a faithful husband for as long as he has been, if she had not provided that for him - there's simply no way that our relationship could ever have worked itself out into something so beautiful as it is today, without integrating his massive, lifelong pee fetish into our sex life - it just wouldn't be possible to be as happy as we are otherwise, and it likely would've eventually caused serious distress in our marriage, if it had been allowed to go unaddressed for years.

 

For her, she had to do a bit of research before she really decided she was comfortable with it. In particular, it was important for her to learn that pee is very clean - i.e. it's sterile (except in presence of a UTI) and generally can't make somebody sick. Remember - folks like my male half, who have had the fetish their entire lives - we tend to know a LOT more about it than most people, and it's very easy to take that for granted! As for the Queen, it comforted her to learn that the ancient Romans were apparently very much into watersports. Neither of us can explain why that was at all encouraging for her to learn, but it was.

His advice? Show her your pee porn, and tell her exactly what you like about it.
Her advice? Whatever you do, don't apologize for it. Make sure she understands that it's clean and does not pose any risk to one's health - this could be an absolute dealbreaker if she has misconceptions about health/safety associated with this fetish. Give her something relatively easy and straightforward to do; something like "my fantasy is to see you peeing your pants," for example.

If there are any concerns about making a mess, offer to take care of them entirely, singlehandedly. To this day, he always cleans up after her, upon request, no matter what - she has not, and will probably never, have to clean ANYTHING herself. He has absolutely no complaints about this duty; it's more than worth it in return for the gallons of pee he gets to take from her. Offer your partner this kind of deal; try to take away as much stress as you possibly can from the situation, in order to allow her to pee with a clear mind.

 

We hope you taste her pee soon! If not her - there will be another. We want to tell you that you absolutely deserve satisfaction in this way, and we genuinely hope you find it very soon!

 

<3

[Takashi96 1,079]

I have done this...kind of. My then gf tolerated and indulged my fetish to an extent. But also kink shamed me from time to time. After she cheated on, then dumped me, I was devastated. Until she finally took me back four long months later. We'd been reconciled for a few months when I volunteered to help my friend's band load equipment at a small music festival, where I ran into an old friend who I'd long had a flirty relationship with. Now just to be clear, that was just the energy between us. We had never been anything more than friends. Still, I had to basically stop talking to her when my gf was around. Sure, I could acknowledge her presence and say hello or whatever, but if there was any lingering conversation I'd be in for a long night of unpleasant consequences. So, my friend and I were catching up, talking like we used to before I'd had restrictions placed on my interactions with attractive women. We were walking around the sight (basically a large clearing in a forest) having some drinks and enjoying some breezy conversation, when I realized I had to pee. Mind you, I was far from wasted, but I'd had enough to lower my inhibitions.

"Come pee with me" I joked, as we strolled past a thick clump of trees. Imitating the request my female friends frequently made to each other whenever drinking was involved. Still, I was conscious that my tone left room for plausible deniability. And besides, I'd always known her as one of those girls who refused to pee outside. So I didn't expect her do it.

With the roar of the amplifiers reverberating across the field, we knew we wouldn't be able to hear each other through the little clump of trees. And, I didn't want to pause our conversation. Honestly, I was just inviting her to be on the same side of the treeline as me. Nevertheless, this was not an indoor plumbing kind of affair. If she had to pee, her only other option was the porta potties a football field and a half away. As I stated before, she and I were just friends. I even accepted our incompatibility. Furthermore, I would never choose her over my girlfriend. But at the end of the day she was also one of the sexiest humans I'd ever encountered. If ever there was an opportunity to be in her presence as she pissed in the wild this would surely be the moment. And I had hope beyond hope that my desperate stream would provoke her into joining me. 

Our conversation continued uninterrupted as I turned casually towards the bushes and began leaving my mark. She appeared just as nonchalant as she raised the hem on her vintage Betsy Johnson knock-off and settled into a squat a few feet over. And now I was in a race to expel as much Jameson's as I could before the serpent transformed once more into a staff, like in Pharaoh's living room. Somehow I managed. My friend finished beside me none the wiser. And we went back to walking the festival.

Now was that cheating? Maybe? Would that have ended my relationship with my girlfriend had she found out? Without a doubt. Did I feel incredibly guilty? Yes. Would I have done it if I'd not been cheated on, then spent nearly half the year begging for her to take me back as if I was the one who had fucked up?

 

 

 

 

[walanuk 245]

Trust is key here I think. My partner isn’t in to it, knows I talk to others online and that I’ve met a couple of people in person. Know where to draw a line - the line in our case is full on sex. Pee stuff isn’t really seen as cheating maybe because to her it’s not at all sexual. That said the opportunity hasn’t really come up for a long time.

We do have a more relaxed relationship than some I’m sure but it works for us.

[Ilovepeestains 482]

Maybe polyamory is a solution to this. It is becoming more popular, at least among young people. For those who can do it, if your partner isn't into pee, you can stay committed to that partner while looking for another partner who is. Some people feel that they can be committed to more than one person. I feel that way.

[GenericUsername 1,110]

I've never had a serious relationship but am loyal and get romantically attached. My best bet might be to do some piss hookups before trying to seriously date someone.

[beachmom 1,815]

Guilty, he's just not into it at all and it turns me on intensely.

[Guest Wetling]

3 hours ago, Ilovepeestains said:

Maybe polyamory is a solution to this. It is becoming more popular, at least among young people.

If everyone involved is okay with it, why not? I see nothing wrong in living however you want, as long as you're not deceiving someone.

[InOddPlaces 307]

Wow, now this is an interesting question!

Long-term married (25+ years), partner not into fetishes and we've only done "straight" sex on the bed. She has a very low sex drive so we don't do much.

Early on in our relationship I worked the topic of fetishes (of all types!) into various conversations to see her reaction, but the responses made it clear she thought stuff was weird and she didn't want to try anything. The suggestions were all "what about trying..." rather than "I'm interested in..." and as a result of her negative responses, I have never revealed my direct pee fetish although she is well aware that I don't mind peeing anywhere when we are out-n-about in the countryside.

So what would I consider to be "cheating" in my circumstances?

If I had a pee session with someone else, where we just openly played around without getting it on each other (this could be peeing anywhere or wetting ourselves), the answer is no.

If we peed on each other (e.g. on legs) it would probably be a sexual turn-on and depends on where it went from there. If we did nothing together (but masturbated later in private) in a way it's similar to watching porn. If it progressed into personal masturbation but together that is a grey area and it would depend on whether we were lost in our own fantasies, or actively watching each other and engaging in our shared experience. Mutual masturbation is a sexual relationship and over the line.

[Takashi96 1,079]

On 5/5/2023 at 4:01 AM, walanuk said:

Trust is key here I think. My partner isn’t in to it, knows I talk to others online and that I’ve met a couple of people in person. Know where to draw a line - the line in our case is full on sex. Pee stuff isn’t really seen as cheating maybe because to her it’s not at all sexual. That said the opportunity hasn’t really come up for a long time.

We do have a more relaxed relationship than some I’m sure but it works for us.

This seems like the ideal arrangement. Honestly, what are you supposed to do when you have a fetish? If I had a partner with a foot thing, I'd have no problem with them doing whatever people, with foot things do, with other foot people. That being said, I'd try to meet their foot needs as sincerely as I could. But if I couldn't, I'd leave it to an expert.

I feel like if I had a piss partner and my everything else partner was cool with it, then my sexual and romantic attraction to my everything else partner would be through the roof. 

[PissDude 479]

I’ve given this some thought after two marriages. With my first wife, I confessed my fetish, and she ended up using it against me in some cruel ways. I did not tell my current wife about it until one day, less than two year ago, she made some comment about men who like watching women pee. I shut the bedroom door so our children couldn’t hear and gave her a full discourse on my fetish. I described a time when we were dating when I’d had several cups of coffee and realized I was going to have to piss soon, when she came up and grabbed me and I had the biggest erection of my life. We boned while I had to piss like my life depended on it and it was so hot. When we got done, I ran to the bathroom and pissed in the shower because I was at my limit and I would not have been able to make the toilet. It was my most favorite sex of my life. But her memory isn’t good and she doesn’t remember that conversation which is probably for the best.

 

I assume if I met a woman who was into the same thing I am, I’d find a way to keep it related to pissing but not sex so it’s not adultery. I hope. My wife loved me at the lowest point of my life after my divorce and that of all things deserves loyalty.

[Kirby23 956]

13 hours ago, PissDude said:

...I assume if I met a woman who was into the same thing I am, I’d find a way to keep it related to pissing but not sex so it’s not adultery. I hope. My wife loved me at the lowest point of my life after my divorce and that of all things deserves loyalty.

@PissDude Man, I can relate to so much of this. I met my wife when I was at the lowest point of my life, going through an awful divorce. She was there for me when I needed it most, and I'll never forget it. 

That's why when she doesn't understand my fetish (or kink shames me), it hurts, but I don't think I'd ever do anything to hurt her (e.g. cheat).

The farthest I'll go is talking about it with other women (female friends, etc.). Not about a fetish per se, just about pee in general (funny stories, etc.).

[Kirby23 956]

On 5/6/2023 at 2:07 AM, beachmom said:

Guilty, he's just not into it at all and it turns me on intensely.

@beachmomI'd be interested to hear more if you care to share. Was it a one-time thing or more regular? How did the topic arise, to lead to the situation in the first place? What types of activities did you partake in?

[Alfresco 11,639]

I absolutely love my wife and would never do anything that I thought would harm her or our relationship.   Having said that, I cannot help but have a fascination with peeing and in particular of ladies peeing outside.   I have told my wife this, she doesn't really understand the fascination, but whilst she generally will do anything to avoid peeing outside where there is even a tiny chance of being caught, she has peed outside when totally desperate and I have told her how much that excited me.   She has indulged me multiple times, but it is far from common.

We have discussed the situation of other ladies peeing outside and I've told her that I also really enjoy that aspect.   Her view is the same as it is in any part of interest in other ladies - i.e. looking is fine, but no touching.   She has extended clarification on that to say that she doesn't mind if I enjoy watching women peeing, but she doesn't want to know about it.   That of course in itself limits my opportunities as I can't exactly go out on the off-chance of finding ladies peeing without justifying where I am going and why  am going there - especially when we spend the vast majority of our time either together or working.

So, if I see a woman peeing outside then I enjoy the view.   I would not consider that to be cheating.   However, That's as far as it goes.   If I were to start meeting up with the same lady multiple times just to see her peeing then I would think that crossed the line of trust between my wife and I and that is when it would be considered cheating.   Also, I would never get another girl to pee on me or do anything that she wasn't doing anyway.    The nearest I would go in that direction would be that if by some chance I saw some girls outside and they asked me if there were any toilets, then I might possibly advise them that there were no toilets, but suggest places that they might go and maybe I would offer to keep watch or stand guard for them.   I don't think I'd really be persuading them to do something that they were not going to do (what option would they have?) but I might be steering the situation so that I got to enjoy being there when they did pee.

I think the nearest I have got to that is when kayaking with a group and a lady who was new to the group had been holding her pee all day and we had just got off the river and were first up to the car park with our kayaks.   She commented that she was glad to be at the end because she really needed to pee.  I pointed out that the toilets in the car park were locked and it would be at least another half an hour for everyone to assemble, get changed, get the boats loaded and then another half an hour back to base and the toilets.   She was very disturbed to find this out, so I suggested that she could pee in her wetsuit where she was stood, before everyone got back to the cars and it would run down her leg and out of the bottom.  She wasn't immediately keen but could see it was a good option.   I also pointed out that others were starting to approach so if she wanted to avoid drawing attention then now would be a good time.   She stood between too cars and I watched as a puddle grew around her feet.  She thanked me profusely for my understanding and said it felt a whole lot better.  We then stood one of the kayaks up on end with the drain bung removed to make a larger puddle which was less obviously the result of someone peeing between cars.   

I have also engaged in conversation with ladies who were peeing outside on a night out - usually starting by apologising for intruding and then putting them at ease if they were embarrassed about having been discovered peeing.  Sometimes offering a tissue, sometimes having a laugh at the size of puddle and that it looked like they really needed to go.   I don't consider any of that to be cheating as it is just enjoying what is in front of me - not taking any names or numbers, no touching or sexual interaction.  

Edited May 15, 2023 by Alfresco

[BlindListener 152]

I am very curious about women’s pe streams since I can only appreciate the amazing sounds of them. I have fantasized of getting opportunities to feel women peeing but question myself if I would really take advantage of the opportunity. I have shared with my wife my fascination and enjoyment of listening to women peeing and she has told me many times that it is weird. Also, she considers peeing a dirty task. To add to my potential mental struggle in many cases looking often is not a relationship crime, but in order for me to look means touching because I am totally blind. So, touching the person would be crossing that line, but feeling a pee stream is not touching a person?

[Horse_water 638]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:37 AM, Kirby23 said:

For those of you in a committed relationship - Let's assume your significant other / partner is not interested in pee, and/or doesn't know about your fetish, etc. Would you cheat on your significant other in order to engage in pee-related activities?

Which activities would you be willing to do? What do you consider cheating (where do you draw the line)?

Are you more concerned with the logistics of it (I'm afraid I'd get caught) or with the ethics of it (it's wrong, regardless)?

Please feel free to add details (type of relationship, length of time in relationship, marital status, etc.).

 

I've been cheated on in the past and cheated on other people I cared about. I am no longer as selfish and short sited as I once was. I avoid hurting other people with my sexuality. I have and will tell people and my partner about what I want to do and my pissing activities but I make sure to never hide anything. I also try to make sure I am not enabling other people to cheat. I don't want to be the villain in other peoples lives and I like not being shot. 

[Alfresco 11,639]

On 9/17/2023 at 2:58 PM, BlindListener said:

I am very curious about women’s pe streams since I can only appreciate the amazing sounds of them. I have fantasized of getting opportunities to feel women peeing but question myself if I would really take advantage of the opportunity. I have shared with my wife my fascination and enjoyment of listening to women peeing and she has told me many times that it is weird. Also, she considers peeing a dirty task. To add to my potential mental struggle in many cases looking often is not a relationship crime, but in order for me to look means touching because I am totally blind. So, touching the person would be crossing that line, but feeling a pee stream is not touching a person?

Your position is a difficult one @BlindListener.   My wife has always told me I can look at others but not touch.  As you say, touching is your way of seeing so that puts you in a position of difficulty knowing where the line is.   Given your wife’s response to your interest in pee, I can’t see that she would see it as appropriate for you to touch another lady’s pee stream - but on the other hand it would be the only way for you to experience it and you wouldn’t be doing it to cheat on your wife, rather just to broaden your understanding.

The other difficulty of course is finding someone who would let you do this.  It is not something that you can really just ask of a random person so would need to be someone who you already have a trusting relationship or a new person that you can persuade to help you.

Personally, I have never been intimate with a woman other than my wife and whilst I have seen ladies peeing and have even put my hands in fresh puddles, I have not put my hand in their stream or touched them whilst they were peeing.   Whilst I enjoy seeing women peeing, anything more intimate than that, I only do with my wife, but I am very lucky that she indulges me from time to time.   

[PisSRL 72]

Well i was in a long term relationshjip (6 years) with thoughts of taking it to the next step. I have this fettish and she doesn't.I would never cheat on anyone so that was a line  i would never cross. 

I ended up calling the relationship off which is one of the hardest things i have ever had to do but i wonder if this fettish became apart of the reason why. There was multiple reasons it felt like we were just on two different lifepaths and she was my best friend rather than my partner, we ended up always doing things seperatly rather than together and ultimately i felt we became flat mates rather than partners, started wanting different things, but now that im not with her it does suck but im looking forward to experiencing new things and meeting new people and hopefully get to explore this fettish in person!

long story short, i would never cheat and if i was thinking of cheating it would make me question if the relationship is right in the first place.