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The horse drawn carriage origin is interesting. I wonder if it was common to pee on/through carriage wheels? That seems like it would offer little cover, as the wheels had wide spokes and the carriages rode high on the wheels, with the wheels often protruding beyond the end of the carriage. Unless you were extremely close to a spoke it would probably offer little cover and at that point quite a bit of splash back. Perhaps the point was to pee between the spokes and end up under the carriage? At that point your pee is going the same place as horse pee. That would explain why it would be more p

I find it interesting when girls do this. Its obviously going to create more of an inconvenience and mess for the residents than if they just peed in the street, on the sidewalk or between cars. I've seen girls do this in entry ways where the puddle even ends up going under the door. That's sure to smell for the residents. Its interesting the girls value their convenience and comfort more than the inconvenience of the residents.

Was anyone else taught to pee on automotive wheels/tires or witnessed others doing it? Where does this idea come from? Where did you learn it? What do you think of this today? This idea has always been bizarre to me. The time I spent growing up in Spain and France the nannies (mostly in Spain) would often encourage us to pee on wheels/tires of cars and trucks. This included the family cars, random cars on the street in Spain, trucks at the farmers market etc.. I can distinctly remember looking at the steel wheels and tires of many old 70s-80s cars while wetting them with my pee with a nan

Agreed. I don't think many truck drivers would care. Next time, perhaps just encourage her to go in between the doors.

That's not the future. That's just a plane ride away to most of the world where it is.

I once saw this at a house party. The party was packed and so were the bathrooms. I was with some girls looking around and we opened the laundry/utility room door. There were two girls inside. One girl was sitting on the counter with her ass over the utility sink peeing and anther was squatting over the cat box. Both were pretty attractive and looked as though they might be in the adult entertainment industry. The one squatting had on a short pleated skirt and a tight black sweater. She had her feet on either side of the cat box in a wide squat where we could see her shaved pussy and the vigo

@Geepee9 I've heard people doing this but its never really made sense to me. Where would you dump the potty? If you're dumping it outside, why not just skip the potty step and go straight to peeing outside? My wife's sister tried to convince her to carry a potty in the car but she dismissed the idea. Why get a piece of plastic dirty you have to clean and carry around? Why risk a spill or getting the car dirty when you can simply pee carside? The OXO potties without liners are also funny. I see lots of people using them beside cars etc. and the pee just goes on the ground under it. Somehow

No, never. I don't think my wife ever did either.

@beachmom do you have any memories of peeing openly out of convenience?

When she peed by the gate, could you see her? Did she keep talking to you while doing it?

When she peed by the gate, could you see her? Did she keep talking to you while doing it?

This is a difficult one for me to answer, because it was totally location dependent. I think when I was very young I had no hesitation peeing in the yard (in the US) in front of my mom. In Europe everyone peed outside so it was also totally normal to do that at our summer house or one of the family estates. When this European outdoor peeing habit started to get me in trouble in school in the US, I think I was encouraged by my parents to be discrete and find a toilet in the US. But there was no problem with continuing to blatantly pee outside when we were in Europe. Thus, I continued to pee in

@Sexismygod I totally get this. I think the first time I became aware off the difference between boys and girls peeing was when a female friend was put in a diaper instead of peeing outside. I went apple picking with my family, my friend and her mom. Before we left, I was taken to pee on a tree. As I was wetting the tree I saw that my friend was instead being changed into a diaper, instructed to pipi, checked that she had wet the diaper and then then changed out of it again before we left. I was so intrigued that she could not just pee on a tree like me. A bit later, I was summering in Spain w

I wonder if this class division was equally true on the continent in Europe vs. UK?

Does anyone else here have a photographic memory and/or a very early visual memory? I have both and I wonder if it has contributed to my pee fetish. I have very vivid and visual memories of many things going back to what I believe is even 2 or 3 years old--surfaces, patterns, clothing, shoes, art, architecture, cars etc. As you can read from many of my recollections this includes images of pee streams, puddles and surfaces that I or others peed on from decades ago. Does anyone else have such strong visual memories?

Some more discussion of the Bluey "bush wees" here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/ryb7ir/as_im_watching_episodes_of_bluey_ive_noticed_one/ "I’ve noticed one thing… the amount of Public “Bush Wees” is astronomical. Are there no indecency laws in their reality?" https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/uq64u0/bush_wee/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bluey/comments/orqn5c/whats_a_phrase_from_bluey_thats_wormed_its_way/ https://blog-actf.com.au/australias-most-influential-childrens-television-personalities/ "grandparents across the country were bewildered when their grandchi

Last week I was at an event where parents were talking about a popular Australian TV show called Bluey which is on Disney+ in the US. Apparently the characters are frequently peeing outside and its made their children want to have "tactical pees" and pee outside which they call "bush wees" or "taking a bluey." I had never heard of the show, but most of the parents were affirming that this was a trend. It will be interesting if this has any eventual impact on acceptance of peeing outside in the US. Has anyone else heard about this show in this way?

Did you pee other places outside?

@Madelyn welcome to peefans! That was a great account of your first experience. Did you and your friend continue to pee at the lake/outside after that, or was that the only experience?

Nature or nurture is a really interesting question here. If Chinese culture made forward streams a positive attribute / sign of fertility, they were observable and this went back centuries, natural selection may have bread forward streams into the population. On the nurture side, the prevalence of squatting in China for reasons outside peeing, may be shaping bodies and anatomy. My wife often makes fun of me for squatting like a white person. The cultural ability to squat has been discussed in places like this https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/03/can-you-do-the-asian-squat/55

The only culture I have heard that embraced peeing standing was 18th-19th century Europe where ladies would wear long puffy dresses and pee standing under them. I think this was driven by the complexity of the dresses. Unfortunately I think these customs are not very well documented and I have no idea how this intersected with Urethra angle. If anyone has better literature, please share or perhaps even start a new thread. Despite her forward stream squatting and my attempted encouragement, my wife has never been interested in peeing standing. She will pee standing in the shower sometimes

Ha. I wish this were true. I'm curious where this idea comes from and what dots are being connected.

Another year, my friends and I had be-friended a young gallerist who was quite stressed out by her first time working the fair. We invited her to join us for drinks. Drinks turned into the inevitable late night tent party on the beach. She had become very affectionate for me and she was drinking rather heavily. I had excused myself to pee a couple of times already. We were dancing together when she whispered into my ear that she needed to pee. We walked outside the tent and I explained to her the two options, trek back to the hotel, or pee in the sand. She asked me what I did and I told her, "

My wife has said that forward streams require a different squatting technique. Ideally your panties/pants are at your knees and you squat low, so that your stream exits below them and goes forward under them. This is frequently taught/learned in Asia but less so in the US because squatting and forward streams are less common here. Thus many parents in the west talk about the difficulty of girls peeing outside, which is not frequently discussed as an issue in Asia.

I'm straight and the only interest in a male peeing is the situation, location or puddle they are leaving. If I'm envious of the situation its interesting because I could imagine myself peeing where the man is peeing. If its a unique location or leaves a puddle that also makes it interesting. Men peeing in conventional locaitons has zero interest for me.