Gunpowder club

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

2 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

Actually it could really have it

Nobody knows outside the members of protection service

From Wikipedia, scroll down to the weapons subheading

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

Or this one, which says there may be miniguns in the cars, only the secret service people actually know

 

https://www.wired.com/2009/01/motorcade-suvs/

[spywareonya 37,961]

48 minutes ago, Cuckoo42 said:

From Wikipedia, scroll down to the weapons subheading

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service

I see no miniguns ihihihihihihi

[speedy3471 10,655]

4 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

I see no miniguns ihihihihihihi

Neither do I lol

[Guest UnabashedUser]

Hey spy -- is it true you're a KGB Col operating an online honey trap? Or is that just a nasty rumour? 

PS I kid, I kid. 😋😜🐸🎩🔴🇺🇸

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

Agreed, sorry, i posted it before actually reading it. 🤔 smh.

Does anyone recognise the film that this scene was taken from? I know it, but see if you do. You may well recognise the actor and the genre. I know the gun isn't actually a real one, but it's on topic.l

 

 

[spywareonya 37,961]

10 minutes ago, Cuckoo42 said:

Agreed, sorry, i posted it before actually reading it. 🤔 smh.

Does anyone recognise the film that this scene was taken from? I know it, but see if you do. You may well recognise the actor and the genre. I know the gun isn't actually a real one, but it's on topic.l

 

 

For a fistful of dollars, Gian Maria Volontè portraying Ramone Rojo, leader of the Rojo family during an ambush against the Army to steal money from them

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

1 minute ago, spywareonya said:

For a fistful of dollars, Gian Maria Volontè portraying Ramone Rojo, leader of the Rojo family during an ambush against the Army to steal money from them

well done film nerd !🤓😎

[spywareonya 37,961]

16 minutes ago, UnabashedUser said:

Hey spy -- is it true you're a KGB Col operating an online honey trap? Or is that just a nasty rumour? 

PS I kid, I kid. 😋😜🐸🎩🔴🇺🇸

Ahahahahahah no I'm not

I know you're kidding but I play to answer "seriously"

Mikhail Bakunin and Alexander Kropotkin invented Communism as a milder form of capitalism, where production lies in the Law of Supply & Demand, to avoid capitalism to go rampage and involve banks too much

Their goal was to focus on production rather than exceedingly aggressive economy, so to avoid modern world where some people has up to dozens of BILLIONS dollars and a BILLION humans die of starvation

In a world where TRUE Communism was used, nobody would ever earn more than 50,000 $ per month and nobody less than 1000

 

Marx and Engels tried to explain communism to the world and failed a bit, with those misunderstood concepts about abolishing private property (while instead the concept was that unproductive riches should be just taxed a bit more in order to make money circulating), and URSS made a great mistake.

 

They applied Stalinism, not Communism, yet they called it that way and now people consider Communism as what was used in URSS, while I spent my life studying it early forms and they are nothing like that

So I could never work for what Russia was, and even less for what Russia is today

 

The only country I serve is the one I see in my ideals, the one we Witches hope to build, a world Empire, with just one Language, just one coin, and absolutely no borders, where all people are given an employement (and are forced to keep it, so to avoid criminality and people thriving on helps like lazy people or entire tribes of travellers going around, which I do not hate at all, but they make confusion), and no pjilosophy or religions, only the cult of true entities explained by us, and a lot of free time and nasty piss sex everywhere

For such a country, yes, I'm an undercover agent, and I am here to sensibilize people about the need to create such a society

[Guest UnabashedUser]

So antifa? Anarchist? Put a name on it for me 🙂

[spywareonya 37,961]

12 minutes ago, Cuckoo42 said:

well done film nerd !🤓😎

Well, I AM, have to admit

I saw many THOUSANDS of movies

And westerns are among my favourite for many deep reasons

I often creat offtopics myself and thus never complain about them, but there is a thread I love particularly about the Old West where people can discuss events, tools, weapons, even movies

Let's continue there and keep this thread just for weapons

I plan to revive that one because very few can understand who much the Old West fascinates me

 

https://peefans.com/topic/12149-the-frontier-lives/

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11 minutes ago, UnabashedUser said:

So antifa? Anarchist? Put a name on it for me 🙂

They called Anarchy in the first place, but today this terms means a different thing

We say "Anarchos is NOT Anomos" which means "Anarchy is law&order without bossy leaders"

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3 hours ago, spywareonya said:

where all people are given an employement (and are forced to keep it,

So in your Utopia you're given a job and FORCED to keep it. Who gets to do the forcing? By whose authority? Is your govt elected? Dictatorship? 

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

1 minute ago, UnabashedUser said:

So in your Utopia you're given a job and FORCED to keep it. Who gets to do the forcing? By whose authority? Is your govt elected? Dictatorship? 

Like in the film Demolition Man, where your genetic makeup gives you skills you are good at, even though you may not know it. In a calm civilised world run by Nigel Hawthorne, yes i'll take that.

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28 minutes ago, UnabashedUser said:

So in your Utopia you're given a job and FORCED to keep it. Who gets to do the forcing? By whose authority? Is your govt elected? Dictatorship? 

Forced it means that if you act in an unproper way and become unemployed, you are given food to survive and levels of healthcare the system can endure, yet nothing more

No strenght used against citizens unless needed be

 

Elections? yes obviously

But a group of persons recognized as supremely cautious and scientifically worthy to control all local leaders. Them too elected, but for life.

There is no such a thing as a preference for left or right, what matters is be sure that people act in the right way and experience the fact that stability and order are more important than chitchat, and while nobody wanna use order as an excusation to use dictator force, yet people must get in love with their own world and care for it

The more you are (patriotic for your planet) the more you are given power, the more you are irresponsible the less you are given, to the point of just helping you live so to avoid being barbaric, but nothing more is owed to irresponsible people

[spywareonya 37,961]

33 minutes ago, Cuckoo42 said:

Demolition Man

Ahahahahah!!!

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

5 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

Forced it means that if you act in an unproper way and become unemployed, you are given food to survive and levels of healthcare the system can endure, yet nothing more

No strenght used against citizens unless needed be

 

Elections? yes obviously

But a group of persons recognized as supremely cautious and scientifically worthy to control all local leaders. Them too elected, but for life.

There is no such a thing as a preference for left or right, what matters is be sure that people act in the right way and experience the fact that stability and order are more important than chitchat, and while nobody wanna use order as an excusation to use dictator force, yet people must get in love with their own world and care for it

The more you are (patriotic for your planet) the more you are given power, the more you are irresponsible the less you are given, to the point of just helping you live so to avoid being barbaric, but nothing more is owed to irresponsible people

You've just described the United Nations ..

[Guest UnabashedUser]

4 hours ago, Cuckoo42 said:

But a group of persons recognized as supremely cautious and scientifically worthy to control all local leaders. Them too elected, but for life.

Dictators then. Got it.

No thanks. 

[Cuckoo42 1,274]

2 minutes ago, UnabashedUser said:

Dictators then. Got it.

No thanks. 

The more times you read it, you realise we're already there, at least we in Europe are. Juncker, Merkel etc..Dictatorship is already here, and they dont want to, will not give up their powers. They're unelected also, mostly.

[speedy3471 10,655]

1 hour ago, UnabashedUser said:

Dictators then. Got it.

No thanks. 

I agree with you 100%

[spywareonya 37,961]

@UnabashedUser

I think there was a misunderstanding between us, when you started to ask me label things

I have IDEAS, and people must explore them one by one, NOT trough hashthags

 

It's by no means dictatorship when you got somebody that controls the actions of those who are in charge, it's the complete opposite!!!

If the one who wins has total power, THAT is dictatorship, when the power is divided, then there is mutual patrolling

 

The concept of free will must be took from outside existence: take the jungle for example, you can do what you want but clumsy actions lead you nowhere

Or like in this forum you can actually say ANYTHING you want but nast behaviours are sanctioned by the Staff

 

I am saying that world needs a Moderation Staff whose cautiousness and maturity is respected by everybody

 

@Cuckoo42

USA has many good things, the problem is that it's too philosophical and less human, people summon God and Right for whatever reason and then 95% are stupid as fuck just like in every other country

But beside the superficiality of the very humans which is no different from all the planet, USA has some very smart features I Always respected

The problem is never the laws, is the people that apply them

Without empathy we lose sight of the goal, which is a free and productive humanity

 

@speedy3471

Hope my above words clarify the misunderstanding

 

 

 

FOR EVERYBODY NOW:

This is not a thread about politic, so please let's get back in focus now

I have wrote many posts around the forum where my ideas were debated, maybe read them, or just mention me in a fitting thread where we can discuss

Edited July 23, 2019 by spywareonya

[WantonLee 861]

 

Ok, here we go:

I am not a gun nut, not as such, at least, but I think I am able to tell that this picture below is... ~probably~ photoshopped.

By someone with less understanding of firearms then me:

 

 

Really reminds me on the old adds for Portal:

 

Ah yes... good ol' times. 🙂

 

 

 

[F.W 5,734]

What do they do?

What were the 5 best military rifles?Was the M-1 Garand in there?As Gen Patton called it,"the finest rifle ever made".or something like that.

I wouldnt have thought the M-16 was part of that.Its early versions had the stopping power of a hard boiled egg thrown at you,and was terribly finicky in its first battles in Vietnam.Many veterans saying it was like using a BB gun.

[speedy3471 10,655]

The vets who first handled the M-16 were used to handling the M-14 which like the M1 Garand had a walnut stock and was chambered in 7.62x51mm. No wonder why the 5.56x45mm chamberes M-16 with its plastic hand guards and stick felt like a BB gun lol

When the M-16 was first issued it was believed that it never needed cleaning hence the unreliability of it. Once the troops were issued cleaning kits they loved it. For the same weight you can carry alot more 5.56 ammo than 7.62

The magazine would jam if you loaded more than 25 rounds in the M-16. Problem was solved by issuing 20 round mags

[Guest UnabashedUser]

Early issues in the first years  of the M16 included extractors that were not properly hardened and then after 200 or so rounds,burred over and would not extract rendering the weapon completely useless until the stuck case was removed (cleaning rod thru the muzzle) and the extractor was replaced. It took an act of Congress to get the thing fixed.

Lots of guys were killed before action was taken.