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Smaller than average listed in the medical literature, but not terribly small.  I think Wikipedia's 800 ml is above average for men and women.  Everybody's different, but if it is causing you problems then it is time to discuss with a physician.

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7 hours ago, DoctorDoctor said:

Smaller than average listed in the medical literature, but not terribly small.  I think Wikipedia's 800 ml is above average for men and women.  Everybody's different, but if it is causing you problems then it is time to discuss with a physician.

I agree that 800 ml is above average, at least above average for a healthy amount to pee at once. It's quite possible that the average bladder can hold that much before the urine begins to leak, but I don't think that the average person can hold that much comfortably, and while occasionally getting that full won't cause problems, if you regularly get to 800 ml then either your bladder is unusually large, or you are putting an unhealthy amount of strain on your bladder that might cause problems in the long run. I've seen some sources saying that regularly holding more than 500 ml is an unhealthy habit.

Many sources say that the urge to pee starts at 200-300 ml and then increases until the capacity is reached. It's not proportional--the bladder is kind of "shriveled" when empty and expands to a certain size quite easily, after which point the pressure increases much more steeply with each additional volume. For me that rapid increase is reached somewhere around 500 ml, such that 600 feels quite different from 500, and 700 feels quite different again. Whereas in the 200 to 300 range I can tell there's something in there if I'm paying attention but it's not like I'm noticing much change. I'm pretty sure on some particularly bursting pees I've reached 800, or close to it (I've certainly broken 750, on one occasion when I measured it) but it's certainly not common to let it go that long.

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@Mary Moon - obviously my 'plumbing' is different as a guy.  But for me, 300-500ml is my normal level after I've held for a while.   On occasions I have managed more, but it's rare and means me pushing to extremes.  Either way, 800ml definitely isn't normal for me either.

So I'd echo the view, everybody is a unique and special individual, we all have our strengths and our lesser abilities.  I know you hate the implications and effects of your condition - but there is nobody here who sees it as embarrassing or any sort of weakness.

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Hi Mary. If it's any consolation then my measuring of bladder capacity during a 'normal' (i.e., no attempt to hold at any point) week might be if interest. My wife and I did it just out of curiosity. And when I did this, the 'normal' capacity I found was 400-600ml, so somewhat lower than the 800ml you found. In any event it sounds like you are trying to accept how things are, and you know how to deal with it. Sending hugs. 

 

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In practice, for me those 270 milliliters are like 700 of a normal bladder. When i reached that amount i was very desperate, i was just moments away from the accident. My bladder is really small. In fact my accidents are never so excessively copious because the amount of pee I pee is the same

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Male here 🙂

Normal peeing is up to 500ml.

700ml is the point I feel a stronger need to go, but if I hold it (normally by being distracted by something non-pee/sexual) I can get over a litre before reaching the point of needing to go NOW!

Largest measured is 1200ml which I achieved during some pee play, masturbating with a vibrator so the arousal overrode the need to pee until I reached the point that it came out regardless.

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2 hours ago, InOddPlaces said:

Male here 🙂

Normal peeing is up to 500ml.

700ml is the point I feel a stronger need to go, but if I hold it (normally by being distracted by something non-pee/sexual) I can get over a litre before reaching the point of needing to go NOW!

Largest measured is 1200ml which I achieved during some pee play, masturbating with a vibrator so the arousal overrode the need to pee until I reached the point that it came out regardless.

When i measured it at 270ml. about, i was very desperate, i think would soon have the accident. Evidently this is close to my maximum capacity

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AI tells me the average is 500ml for women and 700ml for men. Seems to differ on whether the urge starts at ⅓ or ½ full.

In an ultrasound I (male) was recorded for just over 600ml (pre void minus post void), though I probably could have held more.

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6 hours ago, Foobar said:

AI tells me the average is 500ml for women and 700ml for men. Seems to differ on whether the urge starts at ⅓ or ½ full.

That's where what we feel can differ significantly from the reality of bladder size - feeling the need to pee can be VERY different from how full it is.

I've had situations both ends of the scale.

Sometimes I've felt the urge to go NOW, only to have a dribble (probably <150ml) come out.

Other times I've been in the 600+ area and only felt a slight urge. A couple of memorable ones happened whilst I was driving on a long journey, being aware of a slight build up but didn't think it was much so kept going, but an hour later suddenly getting the "NOW" feeling and wetting slightly as I got out the vehicle (and realising how full I was), peeing close to a litre.

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On 4/2/2024 at 7:46 AM, Mary Moon said:

In practice, for me those 270 milliliters are like 700 of a normal bladder. When i reached that amount i was very desperate, i was just moments away from the accident. My bladder is really small. In fact my accidents are never so excessively copious because the amount of pee I pee is the same

I think it matters more, the fun you have playing, not the capacity.  Also, I look at it as smaller capacity is less clean-up for the same amount of fun.

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On 4/2/2024 at 10:09 PM, Mary Moon said:

When i measured it at 270ml. about, i was very desperate, i think would soon have the accident. Evidently this is close to my maximum capacity

I haven’t measured that often but average “need a pee” is between 200-300ml, most I’ve measured is about 500ml. When you are desperate what’s your normal flow like? Like a strong hiss but empty quickly or a slower trickle? Personally I’d love to have pee fun with someone that has a smaller bladder, it fills quicker and you have more pee’s and fun 😉

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Bladders are stretchy like balloons, so the amount we “can” hold before we can’t hold it anymore is a lot more than the amount we can comfortably hold.

But as far as mine goes, I have a seemingly average male bladder.  Most of time I pee between 300-500ml but I usually go whenever I feel the need, I don’t hold it unless I have to.  I start to feel a stronger urge around 500ml, but if I’ve been distracted or driving or something and held it longer I’ve peed a liter plus.  At that point I’m getting desperate.

When I’ve been truly desperate, like after 5 hours holding, I haven’t measured the output but I’m guessing it’s in the 1.2-1.4 liter range.  My biggest measured pee was a bit over a liter, after I’d been sunbathing in the pool and drinking water/soda for a few hours.  I didn’t want to get out. Haha.

 

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1 hour ago, sumrexus said:

I think age needs to be taken into consideration, for boys and girls.. At 30 I could hold about 700mls, at 60 + I'm pretty desperate at 400!

I am incontinent for this very reason: basically my bladder lags behind in growth compared to the rest of my body and recovers slowly. Now my body is that of a 20 year old while my bladder is that of a child. That's why i need to empty it more often than normal and i have accidents. Fortunately my bladder is slowly improving now. As a teenager i wet the bed several times in a week and had many daytime accidents

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I've had to warn Nurses (even in Urology sometimes) my Playful, Easily-amused Bladder can hide as much as 800. I can take the Cup into the typical "Jack-&-Jill" potty-room with the miniature Sally-port; make my contribution (with-or-without vocal theater*), then finish "emptying" (to best of my knowledge), & return to the Exam-room to which I'd been assigned ("... am I in 8?"). 1 way or another, it's discovered my perceptions of having "emptied" were a wee bit premature & exaggerated; missed it by 500--800. I'm blessed that none seemed to believe I was doing that on purpose!

*"...Better performance, better economy & that Signature FloMax Sound!" (or maybe a verse of "The Birthday Dirge" [which I may have made up] while washing my hands)

I have Bladder-Cancer surgery approaching (some have warned me it takes GUTS), so I don't know what my new Bladder's capacity will be or how it may learn to behave.

Oh... "Happy Birtday [unh], Happy Birthday [unh], Caesar's bust is on the shelf, And you're looking pale, yourself, On your Birthday!" (stole a bit of that from a poem IIRC).

Best regards, all.

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On 5/23/2024 at 1:42 AM, IdoPiddleSome2 said:

I've had to warn Nurses (even in Urology sometimes) my Playful, Easily-amused Bladder can hide as much as 800. I can take the Cup into the typical "Jack-&-Jill" potty-room with the miniature Sally-port; make my contribution (with-or-without vocal theater*), then finish "emptying" (to best of my knowledge), & return to the Exam-room to which I'd been assigned ("... am I in 8?"). 1 way or another, it's discovered my perceptions of having "emptied" were a wee bit premature & exaggerated; missed it by 500--800. I'm blessed that none seemed to believe I was doing that on purpose!

*"...Better performance, better economy & that Signature FloMax Sound!" (or maybe a verse of "The Birthday Dirge" [which I may have made up] while washing my hands)

I have Bladder-Cancer surgery approaching (some have warned me it takes GUTS), so I don't know what my new Bladder's capacity will be or how it may learn to behave.

Oh... "Happy Birtday [unh], Happy Birthday [unh], Caesar's bust is on the shelf, And you're looking pale, yourself, On your Birthday!" (stole a bit of that from a poem IIRC).

Best regards, all.

I hope the surgery goes well for you. My dad had it, his surgery was a urostomy where the bladder is removed and he had a Stoma in place of it and a bag. 

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Sarah here,

So my bladder is not particularly big. Have never measured it, but I just can tell you right now, compared to some of the porn I've seen of women who can pee 1L+... yeah, I can just tell you for sure, that's not me.

What I CAN do though, is pee a lot. I can drink, say 2L of water in a short amount of time, and then my bladder will fill and empty like 3 or 4 times off of that. That's a little uncomfortable, though; more often I'll just hydrate continuously during sex, it's definitely a turn-on for him because he knows what's coming his way! lol. Either way it adds up to seriously a LOT of pee. More than enough for me to feel totally confident and dominant with my ever-thirsty hubby.

So just because you might have a bladder that's on the smallish side, that doesn't mean you can't piss like a racehorse. If anything, all it means is that you'll spread it out more over time, which has its own sort of appeal to it I think. It doesn't mean you can't still be somebody's pee goddess. Doesn't mean you're not beautiful and sexy.

Please PM us if you'd like to hear more about just how sexy you can be / probably already are, even if you do have a small bladder. I know Will would be really encouraging to you too.

❤️

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I think the capacity of the human bladder is very vague, maybe even indefinable. I'm an adult human male and I can feel the need to go pee for an amount of maybe 200 ml. Then I'm standing there and just a few gusts come out and I think to myself, what the fuck?

But I noticed it depends on what you drink, where you drink and in what situations you're in. For example coffee is very diuretic to me. I can't take a lot of that. Also beer goes through me like a waterfall. What goes in, quickly comes out again. But then also, If I'm home near my toilet I can't hold it for long like I do sometimes when I'm out with friends or driving. Maybe it's just to not annoy anybody?  But my receptors seem to go mild and can take it for longer. But then when I'm home again, I need to piss like a racehorse. The most I recorded was about 1,2 liter (My cup run out after 1 lt. so it's a guess but there was a good amout after that)  in one session and I wasn't even that uncomfortable. So how can that be? Sometimes I'm ready with 200ml, then I can hold it till 1,2 lt. with not a lot of pain. It seems to be very situational and what you drink.

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14 minutes ago, Overlord said:

I think the capacity of the human bladder is very vague, maybe even indefinable. I'm an adult human male and I can feel the need to go pee for an amount of maybe 200 ml. Then I'm standing there and just a few gusts come out and I think to myself, what the fuck?

Well, it’s a stretchy organ like a balloon, so it expands as it fills.  So its capacity is somewhat variable, but there would be an absolute maximum it can hold before it can’t stretch any further, but chances are you’ll have wet yourself long before then, or rushed to a toilet.

Practical capacity is how much it can hold before you’re desperate or wetting yourself, and that seems to depend on what you’re drinking (and thus how fast your kidneys are filling the tank), time of day, if you’re near a toilet or not, etc.  Like, overnight your bladder tends to not signal as urgently the need to pee so you aren’t waking up every 2-4 hours to pee, so you are quite full when you get out of bed but may not be as desperate as you might be after having some coffee or caffeinated cola, or beer.

I find, if I really hold it too long, I can’t empty it fully on the first try, as it gets stretched out and it takes time for it to fully unstretch.  I have to go back in 10 minutes and pee again.

 

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1 minute ago, KP-has2P said:

Well, it’s a stretchy organ like a balloon, so it expands as it fills.  So its capacity is somewhat variable, but there would be an absolute maximum it can hold before it can’t stretch any further, but chances are you’ll have wet yourself long before then, or rushed to a toilet.

Practical capacity is how much it can hold before you’re desperate or wetting yourself, and that seems to depend on what you’re drinking (and thus how fast your kidneys are filling the tank), time of day, if you’re near a toilet or not, etc.  Like, overnight your bladder tends to not signal as urgently the need to pee so you aren’t waking up every 2-4 hours to pee, so you are quite full when you get out of bed but may not be as desperate as you might be after having some coffee or caffeinated cola, or beer.

I find, if I really hold it too long, I can’t empty it fully on the first try, as it gets stretched out and it takes time for it to fully unstretch.  I have to go back in 10 minutes and pee again.

 

You are absolutely right. What fascinates me is how is it possible to get such different indications from the same organ all along? This has to be something mental. 

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I like to say my bladder has moods.  There’s probably some mental capacity to control it as well, as you’ve probably experienced the semi urgent need to pee while driving home and then as soon as you put the key in the door the urge “suddenly” gets even more urgent, or if you think about peeing or hearing water running, suddenly you’re about to wet yourself.  It’s not like your bladder suddenly got fuller in 2 seconds, but suddenly you have to go NOW!!

Caffeinating seems to make me more urgent to pee, and my bladder fills up faster.  It also (usually) empties faster too… a good caffeinated pee definitely comes out at a higher rate than a pee when I’m only drinking water.  Even then it can vary… if I’m thinking of sex or even my pee fetish, even if I don’t get an erection my flow gets slower.

As I’ve mentioned in other posts my ex-wife was the same way… she could usually hold it all night and tinkle for a minute plus in the morning, but later in the day she’d have to rush to the bathroom, practically wetting herself and then she pissed for 20 seconds when she got there.

Edit: after posting this I felt like I really had to pee… so I measured it and got 600ml.  Like many guys 500ml is where I start to feel uncomfortable but not desperate.  Total time was 49s, for an average flow rate of 12.2 ml/sec, but that included 14 seconds of trickling at the end.  I probably got the first 550 out in 35 seconds so peak was closer to 15.7 ml/sec.  Not caffeinated power piss speed, but probably closer to what I usually do.

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Male and my own capacity is right around 1000ml, usually if I'm doing a hold it's a bit less 800-1000ml. few times I swear i exceeded these volumes but a las they were not measured.

Of course I am into females particularly that can pee insane amounts so if anyone has experiences to share on that front, I'm all ears

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