greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Q. Is Pornography a necessary prerequisite to masturbation? I will look forward to your reply, feel free to illustrate it as you wish. In fact I will add your answer to the many that I have received already and to those who have yet to answer. (All answers will be treated anonymously and without prejudice). I shall publish the findings once collated. 3 Link to post
speedy3471 10,657 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 What a interesting and great question For me its not always a prerequisite. I would say about half the time i watch porn before jerking off. The other half my imagination or reading does the trick 1 Link to post
Kupar 13,448 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Certainly not a prerequisite for me. Thinking back to my teenage years, I could get myself off very nicely almost without even touching my cock, let alone looking at porn, simply by fantasising. Visualising girls I fancied, and thinking about what I might do with them, would get me achingly hard, and after a few minutes if I even brushed my dick against something, bang: mess everywhere. Now I am much, much older, I can still get myself hard by simply thinking. I can lie in bed and think through a scenario, get hard and bring myself off perfectly happily without visual stimulus except in my mind's eye. However, I do also enjoy masturbating while looking at porn. I reckon it's probably 50 / 50 with and without. Does this help? 2 Link to post
gldenwetgoose 21,550 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I'm going to echo the sentiments above... Often it's down to pure imagination, memories of occurences, conversations or just fantasy. If pornography is involved it'll generally be a go-to favourite, something I know will hit the spot. It's also (perhaps surprisingly) not always a directly bluntly pee related to clip, although usually. What I mean though is I find less is more, so a realistic clip of a real girl perhaps clothed is often more stimulating than a completely naked model. Often a still image hits the spot just as perfectly. 2 Link to post
Theo 193 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 (edited) Not for me. I frequently masturbate (seldom to orgasm) during the day without porn. I, too, lie in bed every night and stroke to memories or imagination. Porn does, however, stoke the fire so-to-speak. If I do view porn I find it much more pressing to at least get a quick rub in, again, not necessarily to ejaculation. I practice frequent daily edging and orgasm delay (for several consecutive days) so I'm fairly adept to frequent masturbation without any visual stimulation. Edited January 26, 2021 by Theo 3 Link to post
Jonjet0208 691 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I hate to get repetitive but I also don’t feel it’s necessary. Probably half the time I masturbate there’s no porn involved. Those times it’s either thinking back to an experience that turns me on or fantasising about one that may or may not ever happen. 1 Link to post
willinglywet 242 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 For myself it isnt necessary, i have a quite good imagination so i dont need it actually. Still i definately watch porn quite regularly and it cause the need to masturbate as i enjoy it.(what a surprise,heh..) 1 Link to post
WetMart 1,135 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I don’t find porn is always a prerequisite as I do masturbate most days using my imagination although I do watch porn . I can still masturbate and ejaculate without always watching porn so half and half really. 1 Link to post
Popular Post greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 Thank you for your brief and/or more thorough replies. I have tested the question on other forums. I guess I'm also trying to ascertain whether the ease of access to pornography on the internet has increased the desire for masturbation. Printed material, 8mm film, VHS cassettes, DVD are so called older or analog formats, requiring a purchase and one to one interaction, presenting problems, embarrassment and a furtive exchange of sorts. It also seems that the combination of the imagination, stimulated by an image, or previous experience can aid masturbation. One man told me that he became a member of an Adult Cinema Club, he said that he stimulated his penis beneath his clothing without releasing it and by not having a full climax, (edging as Theo describes it) to the films on the screen. He said that he liked to watch other men masturbate, (although he was not gay...and would not entertain the idea of any physical interaction with another guy). Clearly pornography provided the stimulus in that case. One of the most interesting replies I had from another forum, was from someone who enjoyed the whole ritual of wedding ceremonies (obviously sorely missed due to this awful pandemic). He said that he found what the female guests, (from bride to bridesmaids to the friends and families in attendance) intensely erotic because of the range of tight, often revealing clothing on display; "I just love seeing a curvaceous bottom through the material, silk for instance, the way that it clings to the flesh". The chap sent me some illustrative evidence of the type of dress that stimulated his masturbation after the wedding. I suppose this tallies with the comment about seeing someone fully clothed, but then imagining what lies beneath, fuelling the imagination. If you have been following my contributions to this forum you will know that I often contribute to the 'celebrities that you would like to see pee' theme. Again, it is obviously to do with fantasy and imagination...but also knowing that EVERYONE has to pee, it's then down to the how and where they do it! Also, the memory plays an important role, it can be the most fleeting sight of something or someone, it could be the first pornography encountered, the first furtive grope or the best fuck you ever had! Your first girlfriend/boyfriend...here's another example: "My wife and I don't have sex anymore, yet I masturbate thinking back to the time when we were at it like rabbits going for our first child" I'll leave you with the Wedding image that was sent to me, I'm sure that you will see the point and I look forward to further replies, thanks for those that have contributed so far. BTW this is also meant for any female members! I'm quite prepared to contribute my own take on the initial question. 1 3 1 Link to post
Kupar 13,448 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, greedyneedygirl said: Thank you for your brief and/or more thorough replies. I have tested the question on other forums. I guess I'm also trying to ascertain whether the ease of access to pornography on the internet has increased the desire for masturbation. Printed material, 8mm film, VHS cassettes, DVD are so called older or analog formats, requiring a purchase and one to one interaction, presenting problems, embarrassment and a furtive exchange of sorts. It also seems that the combination of the imagination, stimulated by an image, or previous experience can aid masturbation. One man told me that he became a member of an Adult Cinema Club, he said that he stimulated his penis beneath his clothing without releasing it and by not having a full climax, (edging as Theo describes it) to the films on the screen. He said that he liked to watch other men masturbate, (although he was not gay...and would not entertain the idea of any physical interaction with another guy). Clearly pornography provided the stimulus in that case. One of the most interesting replies I had from another forum, was from someone who enjoyed the whole ritual of wedding ceremonies (obviously sorely missed due to this awful pandemic). He said that he found what the female guests, (from bride to bridesmaids to the friends and families in attendance) intensely erotic because of the range of tight, often revealing clothing on display; "I just love seeing a curvaceous bottom through the material, silk for instance, the way that it clings to the flesh". The chap sent me some illustrative evidence of the type of dress that stimulated his masturbation after the wedding. I suppose this tallies with the comment about seeing someone fully clothed, but then imagining what lies beneath, fuelling the imagination. If you have been following my contributions to this forum you will know that I often contribute to the 'celebrities that you would like to see pee' theme. Again, it is obviously to do with fantasy and imagination...but also knowing that EVERYONE has to pee, it's then down to the how and where they do it! Also, the memory plays an important role, it can be the most fleeting sight of something or someone, it could be the first pornography encountered, the first furtive grope or the best fuck you ever had! Your first girlfriend/boyfriend...here's another example: "My wife and I don't have sex anymore, yet I masturbate thinking back to the time when we were at it like rabbits going for our first child" I'll leave you with the Wedding image that was sent to me, I'm sure that you will see the point and I look forward to further replies, thanks for those that have contributed so far. BTW this is also meant for any female members! I'm quite prepared to contribute my own take on the initial question. Thanks for the context @greedyneedygirl - I would be interested to know whether anyone has expressed the view that free access to amazing pornography has desensitized the whole masturbation experience for people. Going back to pre-Internet days, when I was a teenager all I could get my hands on were catalogues that might have women modelling underwear or swimwear, or 'ordinary' magazines with some photos of sexy women in them (until I discovered where my Dad kept his few copies of girly mags). The difference to what a teenager today can get access to is so vast it's hard to comprehend. Masturbation when I was a teenager was absolutely fantastic, and frequent! But I do remember really looking forward to Wednesday afternoons when I was about 14 or 15 and I knew that for an hour or so I would be the only person at home and could more readily use whatever visual material I could find in order to have a really good session, and for it not to be a furtive under the bedclothes thing last thing at night. I find it difficult to believe that it would physically be any more enjoyable nowadays because of the availability of all manner of hardcore video and even VR stuff. But I am prepared to believe that the frequency with which people masturbate might be different - probably, but not necessarily, more often. And thanks for the photos - that lady really does have a wonderful backside, and insanely sexy lips. (I just need to go away somewhere for a few minutes... 😉) Edited January 27, 2021 by Kupar typo 1 1 Link to post
Popular Post Sweets 4,522 Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 I like to read more than watch porn. I have a very Vivid imagination. Reading still allows you to use your an imagination 2 1 2 Link to post
Guest UnabashedUser Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sweets said: I like to read more than watch porn. I have a very Vivid imagination. Reading still allows you to use your an imagination Reading good erotic lit works for me, but so does amateur porn as long as it's shot with proper lighting and moaning 🙂 Mostly though it's thoughts with mental pictures of prior acts with different girlfriends and/or the wife. Sometimes though we will mutually masturbate, each one watching the other and frequently joining in at the last moment when an orgasm is imminent. Edited January 27, 2021 by UnabashedUser Link to post
Kupar 13,448 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, UnabashedUser said: Reading good erotic lit works for me, but so does amateur porn as lot as it's shot with proper lighting and moaning 🙂 Mostly though it's thoughts with mental pictures of prior acts with different girlfriends and/or the wife. Sometimes though we will mutually masturbate, each one watching the other and frequently joining in at the last moment when an orgasm is imminent. Yes - I had neglected the mutual masturbation thing. If @greedyneedygirl thinks it counts here, I would mention that when done with a partner, it's one of the most pleasurable things there is to do: particularly when you are in the same room, but it works well enough remotely too (though from experience I can confirm that it's worth taking a bit of time to work out how you're going to set up your communications devices so you don't interrupt the moment when your tablet falls over). You could describe it as (two) people watching live porn and beating off to it. Or if one were more romantically inclined, as shared love making without physical contact of the other (sometimes K and I will help each other out at the end; not always though). Of course, if your definition of porn includes live webcam shows or video calls with non-partners, there's something else to be written too - but I have zero experience of that, so I'll leave it for others. 1 Link to post
greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Sweets said: I like to read more than watch porn. I have a very Vivid imagination. Reading still allows you to use your an imagination Have to agree with that, although I have a crafty look at porn too, which I guess is why I love this forum. In my view, women like to read and use their imaginations more than men...cue, controversial statement! 1 Link to post
Guest UnabashedUser Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, greedyneedygirl said: In my view, women like to read and use their imaginations more than men...cue, controversial statement! 30 minutes ago, Kupar said: but it works well enough remotely too (though from experience I can confirm that it's worth taking a bit of time to work out how you're going to set up your communications devices so you don't interrupt the moment when your tablet falls over) Give a read here please of phone/pee sex between my wife, Bonnie and me as posted on this forum earlier. Love to hear your reactions. Link to post
Popular Post puddyls 26,805 Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 definitely don’t need porn. sometimes that does get me started. but, usually its just feelings in me. of course sometimes those feelings are stirred by imagination. but often i just start touching my, and it intensifies my libido, so i keep going until i’m satisfied. 2 3 1 Link to post
greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 It seems that almost 90% of respondents are of an age that are tech savvy, the printed analogue image as stimulant long before their time. So with that in mind, here's a confession from an older chap who answered my question on another forum: 'My parents owned a newsagent, much to my Mother's protestations we sold what would be regarded now as soft-core porn magazines on the top shelf. At the end of the week, invariably many titles remained unsold, so my Father piled them up ready for collection. As you can imagine, I was like a kid in the candy shop, spoilt for choice. I remember one magazine called 'Girl Illustrated', with lots of artfully posed females, the first time that I had seen pubic hair on a woman. Every month I would take an issue and select a favourite image to masturbate to.' 3 Link to post
Paulypeeps 5,315 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 9:38 PM, greedyneedygirl said: Q. Is Pornography a necessary prerequisite to masturbation? Simple answer is no. If I am sitting wearing a short skirt it can be quite hard to resist slipping a hand under my skirt, just to create a little stimulation. If I am writing I will often be completely turned on and need to finish off. But 'pornography' does not really do anything. 1 1 2 Link to post
ppppppp 1,499 Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 No. Sometimes pornography can be an impediment. For example I might watch a film clip. It shows a very sexy young woman in a well fitting swimsuit. She's got my attention. She's clearly desperate to pee, and looking for a private place where she can wee. She steps behind a rock and squats down to pee. If she just pissed through her bikini, and the camera got a good angle, I'd be very happy. But, usually instead, she first shows her tits, pulls some funny faces, throws some random poses. And then, she spreads her legs, adopts an obviously uncomfortable pose. As she pulls her bikini aside, the camera zooms in so close that she just looks like an illustration from a medical textbook. The moment is lost. Some say that the best sex happens in our minds. That's probably true, whether we're on our own, or in company. 2 1 Link to post
Guest UnabashedUser Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Sometimes find myself giving mental off-camera directions to the talent or camera person. "More to the left --a little closer --no that's too close , pull out now." "Baby hold that left lip a little further open so I can see both holes in the shot". "Ooooh bend back a little more so we can see the second stream hit your anus and run off" "Yes that's it! That's what I want to see! Now cum for me baby". Link to post
greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 A response from a very dear old American Friend: Masturbation and Pornography What is the relationship between masturbating and pornography? Are they each a necessary component of the other? Someone once said that sex is a matter of two elements, fantasy and friction. In the case of masturbatory sex, the friction is applied by my hand or by humping, rubbing my penis against something. The fantasy can come from my mind, a mental state I can self create from my innate horniness or it can come from images I collect from the world of pornography. I have, over a lifetime of masturbating, used both sources for my fantasies, especially in my youth when I had little choice and pornography was not accessible to me. Now, in the age of the internet and personal computer we are all aware of the vast array and volume of pornographic imagery that is available and so much of it is absolutely free. As a life long, chronic, committed, addicted masturbator I find this to be an unmitigated blessing. On a daily basis I consume huge quantities of porn and this computer is filled with it to the point where I have to delete on a regular basis I need to delete to make room for new material. I am as addicted to pornography as I am to my masturbating. Would I still masturbate as much if I did not have pornographic material to arouse myself with. I am sure I would try but I am also sure it would be much more difficult to muster the fantasies that I need to satisfy the longings of my penis. So what particular types of pornography to I focus on and why. I refer you to my next journal entry entitled: “WHAT TYPE OF PORNOGRAPHY DO I MASTURBATE OVER?” Link to post
greedyneedygirl 4,177 Posted January 31, 2021 Author Share Posted January 31, 2021 The follow up from American Friend: “WHAT TYPE OF PORNOGRAPHY DO I MASTURBATE OVER?” I devour pornography. I pour through it every day of my life. What is the purpose of this obsessive consumption of pornography? There are two purposes. First of all I use it to masturbate. I arouse myself with it and use it to prolong the pleasures of masturbating my penis and make myself feel good. Ultimately, I use it to make myself cum, to orgasm and bring on the climactic rush and ejaculation that I crave and need. But secondly I am endlessly curious about sex and how humans, both men and women, engage in it. I have explored all of the variants of human sexual expression that can be found in the pornographic literature ….. and there are surely an awful lot of them. Some of them I find repugnant and I turn away from them pretty much immediately. In this category I would include sexual mutilation castration and the like. Some of them I just find weird and un erotic such as sex with animals, bestiality. Some I avoid for legal reasons and I thank God that child pornography, subjects with immature sexual attributes do not interest me. Some subjects do pique my interest to the point of experimenting a bit but ending up not really hooked. Scatology is one of these things. Shit really is just too smelly for me. On the other hand urination and pissing on myself does appeal. Go figure! One thing I have no real interest in and hardly ever look at is what I would call commercial pornography, huge breasted women, men with gigantic penises trying to act seductive, cavorting and fucking and sucking their way through some trite scenario. So what do I like? Most of all I like what the porn world calls “amateur” participants. I like ordinary every-day people, the kinds you might meet at your church, or parent/teacher meeting or at the library who seem very “vanilla” to use the term of choice in the world of sex addiction. I like these people who seem indifferent to sex to actually be deeply sexual and into intense sexual practices. I like to see them expose themselves and perform sexually mostly by masturbating themselves or with others. I do not so much wish to see them engage in penetrative sex such as fucking or oral versions such as blow jobs but rather I want to see them engage in sex where their genitals are fully on display as they bring themselves to heightened states of arousal and ultimately to orgasms. I like to see men ejaculate and women shudder in their climaxes. I like to see all types of bodies, not just youthful idealised ones with perfect physiques. I like women who are older and on the skinny side. I like small or saggy or empty breasts and genitalia that are complicated and hairy. The same goes for the men especially older and slender types with penises that are erect in spite of their advanced age. I like to see people undressing themselves and exposing their sex parts but not vamping or doing stripteases that are thought to be seductive. Just ordinary people, like myself, who are undressing to show me their cocks and pussies or penises and vaginas in my preferred terminology. I like a certain amount of kink too. I like images of submissive men and women. The men kneel before a woman who is directing them to masturbate. The women are made to undress and offer themselves up to men who grope them. masturbate on them and use their undergarments to masturbate with. I like people wetting themselves with urine although I have no strong oral fixation so I don’t get anything from seeing people with mouths open being pissed on or n=being made to drink piss. Eating cum and having men cum in women’s mouths doesn’t do as much for me as seeing ejaculations from penises and vaginas end up on other penises and vaginas. As I said a certain amount of this sort of kink can get me masturbating quite contentedly. ……. And I like to look at genitals, particularly female genitals. What lies between a woman’s legs was for so long a great mystery to me. Now the world of pornography offers a total range of female sex openings to look at and lust after and masturbate over. Some women have tight little pink creases and others have great openings with multiple layers of labia and folds of flesh with tremendous variations of coloration from the apex of spread legs to the innermost depths of their vaginas. I study the whole range of types with my penis dripping and content as I stroke and stroke away. I also look at penises, especially erect ones. I love erections because they signal arousal and the probable onset of masturbating. So I am a pornography lover, grateful that the types that I masturbate to are free, legal and available to me whenever I feel my sexual juices begin to flow……. which is often. Am I a pervert? That is the next question I will reflect upon. 1 1 1 Link to post
mcdky 93 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Not necessary, but makes it a lot better. Link to post
P_lovinguy 1,323 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 4:38 PM, greedyneedygirl said: Q. Is Pornography a necessary prerequisite to masturbation? I will look forward to your reply, feel free to illustrate it as you wish. In fact I will add your answer to the many that I have received already and to those who have yet to answer. (All answers will be treated anonymously and without prejudice). I shall publish the findings once collated. First let me say that as I write this I'm in my mid 50s. When I was younger in my teens, I'd find my fathers "private stash" of magazines of all sorts, especially Penthouse & Playboy, and just go to town. Soon after when I became "legal" I bought every bit of porn I could afford or go to the "Adult XXX" stores in New York City. I needed that visual stimuly. Nowadays, I can reflect on a memory old girlfriends/wives, or of few lady coworkers who were sexy as all can be, or recall seeing a sexy hot lass at a restaurant, or read a provactive story/article and I'm stroking away. Heck I even stroke to the gals on the weather channels in the morning just imagining them bare breasted & their sweet cheeky bottoms, even so much as imagining when they say rain is in the forcast they're going to lift their skirts or drop trow and oh happy day! So is porn necessary to wanking? I'd say yes, 85% of the time; the other 15% is memory, recollection amd/or fantasy. Link to post
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