Member Updates I'm out

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

My recent post has brought up some deja vu feelings and has left a sour taste in my mouth. 

I had this feeling a few years ago when I was in a omorashi discord server... It was me, two other girls and 15 to 20 men in there. I had asked the discord server owner if there had ever been more girls... they replied that some girls joined in the past but left... because anytime a girl joined the guys would make a huge deal of it and scare them off. So I wanted to help bring more girls to the server. I tried to make suggestions about making 'girl topics' in the server or a female only side chat in the server. The owners shot the idea down quickly and all members got mad at me. I left and still to this day there's maybe 2 or 3 girls in there and the rest are men. Things never changed in that server. 

A few days ago people said in response to my 'let's get more girls here'. that there is a general hesitation for women to express their feelings about watersports. they tend to feel more embarrassed about it. I'm a helper at nature and wanted to find a solution to help. But unfortunately my solution backfired. Here's the thing....as long as i've been a member of pee fans...which is about 2 years now i think... things have stayed the same. It's been majority male members and a few popular female members and  other female members that don't post anything at all. The men here worship the few popular females. I feel the majority of this site is okay with the way things are, hence why this hasn't changed in two years. People love Spy and a few of the other ladies that regularly post. And the majority of people here wouldn't change a thing. The majority of people feel that in general we don't need more members here of either gender. That the gender ratio and amount of members we have here is perfectly fine and not worth changing. 

If this site isn't going to progress to at least try to be more equal and are so against at least making an attempt to have more ladies here then this place isn't for me. I feel like what it boils down to, is this site only loves the regular popular females. This may seem harsh but i honestly feel like it is true. People here don't want change when it comes to bringing more ladies here or helping the ladies that are unactive here, to become more active. Yes there were some semi active ladies that have become more active recently but the fact still remains. There's still a LOT of ladies on this site that aren't active at all...ever. Add onto the fact that new female members aren't really joining. And still that's a small amount ratio compared to active men. 

Fact: Majority of members are okay with the amount of active men here.

Fact: Majority of members are okay with the amount of unactive females here.

Fact: Majority of members worship a few active females here.

Fact: Majority of members here are okay with the amount of members we have here.

I wasn't asking for a complete overhaul of the site. I know this site never truly could be 'equal'. But i feel like any idea/plan etc to help more new ladies join and be more active is going to be met with reluctance and refusal because I think change scares people on here. People have been okay with how things are for two years. To me that seems very 'old school' way of thinking. it's disappointing. I really don't think it's a mindset I went to interact with. I wanted all genders to be represented here. Heck I was even going to suggest a LGBTQ photos/video room. A place where people could post gay watersports photos/videos or lesbian watersports photos/videos. I feel like this site would be okay with the lesbian stuff but not be okay at all with gay stuff. That really is the vibe i get from a lot of people here. Weither you like it are not, there are LGBTQ people here and i don't know if they'd really feel like they have a place here. I've honestly never seen a video or photo on peefans of two guys peeing together. Yet I have seen photos/videos of two girls peeing together. 

I know the Admin has done a lot to try to make this place better and maybe someday I'll come back. If anyone wants to reach me I can give you my email privately. I did participate in the survey. If I do end up winning you can give the gold to someone else.

 

[Peefreak99 3,722]

I can promisse you that we all would love to have more girls here and here girls don't get chased away because guys here know how to behave. Let's ask @Sophie @Misspy @spywareonya @chubbybirb999 have you ever been harassed here?. And also we have a very good admin he is so dedicated to making this place as good as possible and the mods are also awesome. This place is safe for girls because if anyone would harass them that asshole would be banned right away. And also giving one gender special treatment and giving them a special room is not equal at all giving both genders a special room wouls be equal and giving none of them would also be equal. And really there's no need for a special room i know many don't want one including me because there's no need for segregation. Lets put it like this you get 50k i get 50k that's equal right? I get none you get none that's also equal, but when you get 50k and i get none or the reverse then it's not equal 

[Admin 14,788]

I'm sorry but I have to strongly disagree with you. The only 'fact' you listed that I would probably agree with is that the majority of members worship a few active women here. It's true that we are very appreciative of women who are willing to share so much with us, but of course it's exciting that someone of the opposite sex is sharing in your fetish with you. But I''m not sure that's such a bad thing as long as it's respectful and doesn't become too overwhelming. 

As for the other points, I think it's very clear we all want more women here. The feedback survey has already indicated this heavily, as did your thread. Plus it's just common sense - we all want more people here in general, but especially women. 

I think a more accurate analysis is that most members would love more women here, but aren't actively doing anything about it. That doesn't mean they don't want more women, but at the end of the day it's not that easy to just 'get more women here'. Whilst I am hugely appreciative of any members who do help promote the site, I realise it's nobody else's job to do so. And aside from posting the link elsewhere, most members have very little control over how many women are here. I guarantee if it was a yes or no choice of having more women here, it would be an overwhelming yes. I honestly have no doubt about that. Don't be fooled by a couple of mixed reactions to your recent thread - that was absolutely not an indicator that people don't want women on the site. 

But I do believe far less women have this fetish in general, and it is true that generally speaking women are a bit more reserved about sharing things on a site like this. That's true with any kind of adult content though, not just pee. It's sad but true. In fact, on almost every forum I've ever used there seems to have been more men than women.

We do have a lot of women here still though, and a fair few do post and contribute quite regularly. I would love there to be more, and I am going to actively try and help more women find this site. But again, if there were a simple way of doing it, I would have already done it. The best way to get more people to the site is promoting on pee-related content... the majority of which is watched by men.

Although compared to most pee sites I've used in the past, we already have more female users. Perhaps that's why people seem 'ok' with it, just because relatively speaking we are quite lucky already. I agree we can do better though, and we will.

You're right that listening to our current female members is the best approach, and I will try to do more of that. 

1 hour ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

But i feel like any idea/plan etc to help more new ladies join and be more active is going to be met with reluctance and refusal because I think change scares people on here.

I assure you it won't. Perhaps there is an element of change scaring people, but that has never been my philosophy with the site. PeeFans will continue to improve, expand and modernise. We will grow more and get more members. All ideas and plans will be listened to, but it genuinely is hard to make ideas and plans that specifically attract more women. All we can really do is promote the site anywhere possible, and hope some of the people who find it are women, and that they feel welcomed enough to contribute. I'm certainly open to other ideas though, and I am certain almost every other member would be too if they thought it would help attract more women to post here.

[spywareonya 37,961]

@Blackinksoul30

I want to be completely sincere with you, and I care not for offending somebody with this theorical thread

After getting a gun in my face I really piss on political correctedness

 

 

Blackie, people are worthy for how much they suffer

Humanity is evolving toward a goal, scientists just keep this secret

People who are more sensitive are simply the next step in human evolution

I simply ADORE you

 

 

But I think you are, by now, PROJECTING unto the forum some clumsy misunderstandings.

Boys here worship you too, check your number of likes,  because people instinctively react to anything you post because we fucking worship the pain you face every fucking day

Here you can find more love toward you than anywhere else!!!

 

I think you miss to see it because you are not focused enough

Let me explain it more clearly: I read all your posts about the problems you denounced, but I missed to understand what could make you feel better

I mean, I sent you many PMs filled with words of respect and polite and respectful advices, they are still unread, or never got a reply

 

You said you want more friendship, but what such friendship should be based on, in your opinions?

What other beside the enormous respect we already offer you?

Because I can swear, swear on my honour as Witch, people here RESPECTS you enormously

 

You talked about equality but I never was met with any attitude like frothing maniacs wanting a piece of me, ONLY GREAT FRIENDS

Many of which share my respect for you

 

You talked about involving girls more, I assure you that we all want the same

Recently we had some enormous new members ( @Misspy just to say one, but also Audrey, YellowKitten and many others) and we are ALL happy about this!!!

I cannot see the inequality you talk about: it's not that boys RULE the forum, they are just more in numbers!!!

And guess what, their eyes are ON US GIRLZ!!!

YOU included

 

@Admin already shared words of cuddle and appreciation toward you, just like Others from the Staff, and members too, and his words in his last post are neat yet very true

Please, see Beyond your misunderstanding and receive the love we have for you

We are 8 billions on a world that can carry 2

Call me cruel, we cannot be so many, not everybody is indispensible

YOU ARE

Grow up, and stay

We NEED you, the forum would be more shallow without you, and believe me many says this, both in PM and publicly

 

@Peefreak99 too was correct about everything

Stay please

[Adyguy6970 877]

I'm very sorry to hear that you're leaving us.  I, for one, certainly value your contributions here and, for that matter, elsewhere.  You must, of course, do what feels right for you.  Whether it will ever change or not I don'tr know, but historically women have tended to be more reticent when it comes to joining watersports (or even other fetish) forums than men and there are a number of reasons for this including nurture, upbringing and societal expectations.  It's always been true on online forums that some people will effortlesly attract a strong following whilst others will struggle.  I'm a man and I've often been frustrated by the lack of feedback I've had on posts I've made on various forums, and I certainly don't post nonsense either.  It is, I think, in large measure the luck of the draw.  However I go on forums to try and make a contribution and, if it's in my gift, make a difference for the better.  If my efforts are applauded, I naturally appreciate it, as would anyone.  At the end of the day, I don't post seeking validation and if little or no feedback is forthcoming, I don't regard it as a big deal.   

[spywareonya 37,961]

17 minutes ago, Adyguy6970 said:

At the end of the day, I don't post seeking validation and if little or no feedback is forthcoming, I don't regard it as a big deal.   

The silly thing is that some people consider you amazingly smart and sensitive, and would quite see you post more, mainly in general chat's serious threads, as regardless of different opinions, reading from people so straight-to-the-point like you is rejuvenating

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

Right. It is hard to just suddenly get more ladies here. I totally agree with that. 

Maybe I would have been better to suggest a 'Guys Room' thread and a 'Ladies Room' thread. I don't know. But still i think people would have argued and disagreed with me about that as well.

I still don't feel like a LGBTQ room would go over well on here either. Gay videos/photos would get bashed. Lesbian videos/pictures would be welcome. That's just the nature of the beast. If i went right now and posted something about liking gay men in the sex and porn thread.... Could you honestly tell me that that wouldn't get bashed? Or if i posted a link to a gay video that people wouldn't react like they were uncomfortable with it or that it was weird or wrong or disgusting. 

The fact that people were so quick to bash a 'ladies room' idea and not even saying, 'I'd totally be cool with that as long as there was a 'guys room'.' really speaks volumes. The overwhelming hate about a ladies room in general just floored me. Like no room for discussion... a big no. No room for compromise...a big flat out no. No even attempt to see my point of view on there from the other members...the livid anger I got in response to a simple idea and legit i just made a simple post about nail polish and girl magazines. really hurt me as i was just trying to help this site. i would have had nothing all wrong with having a guys room. And i'm sorry i didn't add that in the main post. 

The vibe is just very skewed. I'm sorry Admin. I'm sorry Spy as well.  

Edited July 7, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[Adyguy6970 877]

2 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

The silly thing is that some people consider you amazingly smart and sensitive, and would quite see you post more, mainly in general chat's serious threads, as regardless of different opinions, reading from people so straight-to-the-point like you is rejuvenating

Thanks spywareona.  That's very kind of you and I really appreciate it.  I would dearly love to post more and will try to when I can, but often I feel defeated time, or rather the lack of it.  Maybe I try to spread myself too thinly but it's a long standing habit and a difficult one to get out of.  

[spywareonya 37,961]

9 minutes ago, Adyguy6970 said:

and a difficult one to get out of

Didn't you got it already, silly boy?

This forum exists to help us all grow up, it's scholarship toward real-life

You are worthy tenfold you think

I am not boosting you, I just want to see you realize your potential

[Adyguy6970 877]

Thanks spywareona - and bless you!

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

I am giving out my email address privately to those that wish to keep in contact with me after i leave.

 

I'm not sure how to deactivate my account when i'm ready. Is there a button i push somewhere. I checked in settings and profile. I didn't see a deactivate button.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[spywareonya 37,961]

22 minutes ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

I am giving out my email address privately to those that wish to keep in contact with me after i leave.

 

I'm not sure how to deactivate my account when i'm ready. Is there a button i push somewhere. I checked in settings and profile. I didn't see a deactivate button.

Don't do anything rushy

Nobody knows the future, maybe one day you'll fee like coming back

Please, read my post, don't misunderstand our attitude

We love you, it's not a pathetical lip service, we really want you around, your heart is peerless

[Misspy 380]

6 hours ago, Peefreak99 said:

I can promisse you that we all would love to have more girls here and here girls don't get chased away because guys here know how to behave. Let's ask @Sophie @Misspy @spywareonya @chubbybirb999 have you ever been harassed here?. And also we have a very good admin he is so dedicated to making this place as good as possible and the mods are also awesome. This place is safe for girls because if anyone would harass them that asshole would be banned right away. And also giving one gender special treatment and giving them a special room is not equal at all giving both genders a special room wouls be equal and giving none of them would also be equal. And really there's no need for a special room i know many don't want one including me because there's no need for segregation. Lets put it like this you get 50k i get 50k that's equal right? I get none you get none that's also equal, but when you get 50k and i get none or the reverse then it's not equal 

I have not been harassed here, yeah I have received a lot of messages but I haven’t been harassed or pressured to do or say anything, I love the messages 

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

when i posted about what I went through on an omorashi discord server I wasn't saying that people were harassing others on here. I meant more like the deja vu part was that just like the Omorashi discord server where i had made a suggestion to bring more ladies to the server and make a ladies only private room on the server and got bashed for it, that's what i experienced here. Both instances i ended up feeling horrible about trying to bring more ladies to 'something'. Just like on the server... people got mad at me about my suggestion. 

And still no one is trying to argue against the opinion i have that a majority of members on here would be against me or someone else posting any gay watersports videos or any gay photos/videos. That lesbian stuff goes over fine here, but chances are gay stuff wouldn't. No one's said, "Gay stuff would be fine. You can post gay photos/videos." i think no one has said anything about my opinion because it is true. That there would be drama if people started posting gay videos or photos. No one really wants to touch on the topic because it would cause drama. 

I think i have given my email address to any and all members on here that would like my email.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[oliver2 4,418]

3 hours ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

And still no one is trying to argue against the opinion i have that a majority of members on here would be against me or someone else posting any gay watersports videos or any gay photos/videos. That lesbian stuff goes over fine here, but chances are gay stuff wouldn't. No one's said, "Gay stuff would be fine. You can post gay photos/videos." i think no one has said anything about my opinion because it is true. That there would be drama if people started posting gay videos or photos. No one really wants to touch on the topic because it would cause drama. 

You said you thought you would be judged and criticised if you posted anything about liking gay porn. I don’t think that would happen, and if it did admins would jump on it. I’d swear I’ve read tales of women enjoying M/M porn while I was exploring the older threads. What there would not be - while we have a largely male audience hanging out at the low end of the Kinsey scale - is a majority WHO WANT M/M content.

 

[spywareonya 37,961]

8 hours ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

drama

No drama!!!

Nobody is telling you that you are wrong, we are just telling you that you see things darker than they are

@oliver2 made a great point

A lot of boys here are serenely bisexual (guess what? ihihi I am too!!! Bisexual I mean, not a boy HAHAHAHAHAH) but indeed Darling, numbers are not Peefans fault, many more girls are bisexual than boys, genetically speakin all women are bisexual they just don't know, while not all boys are, many more than they know but not everybody

You are fighting against Nature itself, Peefans is just the TELLTALE

 

We want girls to the forum but I cannot understand why you seem to be so bothered by boys, because we could talk about it

[PissFanOmega 206]

On 7/7/2019 at 10:37 PM, Blackinksoul30 said:

And still no one is trying to argue against the opinion i have that a majority of members on here would be against me or someone else posting any gay watersports videos or any gay photos/videos. That lesbian stuff goes over fine here, but chances are gay stuff wouldn't. No one's said, "Gay stuff would be fine. You can post gay photos/videos." i think no one has said anything about my opinion because it is true. That there would be drama if people started posting gay videos or photos. No one really wants to touch on the topic because it would cause drama. 

Please take time to read my full response, I know it's a little long, but bear with me.

I couldn't care less about gay content, because it's not something that interests me. I'm sure that may be the case for a great many people on site, but I don't think any of us would care if you posted it. There is a male pissing section on site, is there not? (If memory serves, there is) It could easily go in there, for M/M. Sections for other types that apply to the LGBT community could easily be added, I'm sure. I don't personally visit pages on the site where the content doesn't appeal to me, as we all do.

You just seem to have this preconception that because people on the site aren't addressing your opinion, that somehow it must be true. That's false equivalence in its purest form. Maybe people just don't want to argue about it needlessly. Maybe nobody is commenting about it because we know it's not true, and there's no point in getting into a heated debate. Maybe other people are waiting on members like me, who aren't afraid to step in and say "I don't think so", at risk of offending you somehow. I'm not saying you would be offended, but given the ease at which people get offended these days, it's very possible that's at the forefront of people's minds.

There could be so many more reasons why people aren't addressing this facet of the conversation, and I'll be point-blank with you; assuming you're right on the sole basis that no-one had commented on just one aspect of what you're talking about, is quite simply self-defeating. You're expecting a problem, so you think there is one. Maybe there isn't. Maybe you're allowing your past experiences cloud your judgment about what's going on here on this site. I've had the same problem before, it's hard not to see adversity when you're used to dealing with it wherever you go, but sometimes, that adversity we think we see, is only an illusion created out of our own preconceptions and knee-jerk reactions. My advice is to take a breath, step back for a few, calm down, and then come back to the topic with a clear head.

Also, I haven't seen the other thread you were referring to, but you mentioned thinking a Ladies-Only section would help get women on the forum to participate: I wholly agree, because I've seen it work on other sites. People are free to disagree with our opinion about that, and it isn't necessarily 'bashing' when they do. And here's the best part: People don't have to agree with our view on the matter, because it is ultimately the staff's decision whether or not to add such an area. As you pointed out, the majority of users are men; that's a fact on 99% of all forums where a facet of sexuality is the main topic, but that also means men won't be seeing and dealing with that women's area either, so even if someone were complaining about it, it wouldn't effect them in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Edit: I did find that topic, and it just seems to me that some people missed the point you were trying to make, entirely. I personally get it; you want women that wouldn't normally feel comfortable posting about their experiences on a more public area of the forum that's full of guys, to be able to have a place to call their own, and gain that confidence to share their stories, with the hope they would share it in other sections as well (best-case scenario). Again, I've seen this work on other sites, and I absolutely agree, the attempt should at least be made. Getting members to participate in it will be a slow process, but it can absolutely work. Some ladies may not post outside of that section, that's fine too; but they'll feel welcome, and feel like they have a place here nonetheless.

In any case, that's my stance on the matter. I hope you decide to return at some point. It would be a shame to lose a contributing member (or any member) over such an event as this. I'm not always on, but if you do return, and you want to talk, or need to for any reason, feel free to PM me.

Edited July 11, 2019 by PissFanOmega
Adding a final point, fixed a grammar error.

[spywareonya 37,961]

@PissFanOmega

We already met in some Others of your posts and I remember I caught a very positive opinion of you, now that I read this heartfelt post I am more sure of my first impression

Holy fuck boy, you are so sensitive!!!

 

I agree with many things, only with one I disagree, but since I respect so much what you wrote, I will be clear in my explaination and not simply claim the right to have my ideas by myself

 

 

 

When we are born, our neurological patterns are not structured, and they get slightly updated every 30 minutes, which is the refresh cycle of the so called Trash-DNA, which is not trash at all and just labeled like this in past decades when we did not know its function, now we know that it modifies the neurological pattern, sligtly changing our character, every 30 minutes, so slightly that you cannot perceive any difference, but when you got viscerally used to a point of view for ten years, then it's not simply habit, is actual neurological transformation that shapes a "character"

 

This is also the reason why it is so difficult to change bad habits, and also how some things like unvoluntary racism and sexism may be issued, because when you are unconsciously convinced of something, your unconscious goes in that direction even in unplanned implications

 

According to both scientists and psychologists, the reason why living beings exist, is to MASTER this process

 

Undergo experiences that shapes us, but also patrolling how things changes us. If we notice that a portion of us is malfunctioning, we must change it. I was abused a child, and developed a deep post-traumatic stress disorder and also an antisocial anger issue. I fought against them and overcame them both.

Somebody could claim some of my anger bursts or my deep lawlessness can be considered as remains from those problems, but I voyaged deep enough in my character to discover they are inborn, I simply am a "loud" person

 

Shyness is not simply a cute thing. Shy people are cute, because usually their shyness has A DEEP SENSIBILITY AS CAUSE, and THAT SENSIBILITY is what makes shy people CUTE, but this doesn't mean that their shyness is cute in itself.

 

Shyness means that your neurological development MISSED to find humans who activated what in psychiatry is called "Mirror-function", which means empathic persons who saw the potential lingering in your sensibilities and helped you develop it

 

Shyness is a curse originated in the lack of worthy people around us

Shy people are plagued with Society's uncaringness

It's not their fault, it's of Society

 

People grow up shy when they lacked a decent amount of mighty interactions

 

To recover from shyness, you need to find PROOFS of TWO DIFFERENT THINGS:

 

1) That you are loved and worthy

2) That the world is not as awful as you sw, and that you just had the bad luck to see only its worst, but there's much better outside

 

These two things need a bit of attrition, a bit of impact against our habits of shyness

 

THIS is why I am so intensely against not only a ladies-only section, but against ANY "-insert word- ONLY" section whatever

 

Shy people will recover from their shyness if we

1) cuddle them and

2) show them that this forum is NO SUCH A PLACE TO NEED A SECLUDED SAFE CORNER (my "Cuddle a Newcomer" challenge in the current Games is aimed at such)

 

If we, even subtly, comply to the idea that shy people could need a secluded safe corner, we would implicitly make shy people to think that they are RIGHT in believing their isolation to be necessary, when every psychologist of this world says that in order to save people from shyness those who love them must prove them that they are WRONG!!! and the world is not so awful, nor they are so unfitting for it

 

That's why we must have only one&only forum, where everybody can read and reply to everybody, because anything milder won't do the trick

How can we PROVE to shy people that we are a happy bunch unless they try us in our fullness? Their unconscious would still Harbour former programming, regardless of temporary happiness

 

Shy people must be CUDDLED into realizing isolation is NOT necessary: NOT allowed to remain convinced that isolation IS necessary

[steve25805 126,021]

@Blackinksoul30

Firstly, let me say we have no ban against gay male porn nor would we. We would simply expect it to be posted in the male porn section.

Secondly, you are surely wrong when you say most of us would not welcome more female members. I am certain most of us would love more. I know I would.

If you want a break from the site for a while we will regretfully understand but I urge you not to burn your bridges and ask for your account to be deleted or anything like that. Please at least keep open the option of returning. If you do leave you will be missed, because that is one less great lady.

I did not see your post suggesting a ladies room, but any opposition to such an idea would have been from guys not wanting to be excluded is my guess. We all want more ladies, but would like to interact with them normally throughout the forum.

Might I suggest you responding to the peefans survey with any thoughts or ideas you might have?

Finally I ask you to consider not making any hasty decisions. We all like having you around.

[gldenwetgoose 21,487]

1 hour ago, runningback said:

why  is this site not ok with gay stuff and gay pee videos? I  am a gay male and I would love seeing gay male pee videos and more gay content on here too like gay pee stories. 

How exactly do you reach the conclusion the site isn't ok with gay content?

Let me give an analogy - if you go to a restaurant, and you're gluten intolerant, then you have a valid complaint if there's nothing on the restaurant menu that's suitable for you to eat.  That restaurant is failing to cater for your needs and is excluding you.

But if you go on to a beach picnic where everyone contributes their own choices to the food, then it's up to each person to bring along their own particular favourite things to eat.  In that situation if there's nothing gluten free whose fault is that?

 

It's just the same here - Peefans isn't run by a corporate empire telling you what pictures, videos and discussions to have. It's run by individual members contributing what they enjoy. The wonderful thing about Peefans is that picnic of people contributing what they enjoy.  The site is absolutely ok with any gay pee content (assuming it's in the right topic area and doesn't break any other site rules.

If you want to see more then post more of it...  to be blunt about it.

[Adyguy6970 877]

I do hope you'll stay.  

runningback.  You can always make changes to stories to ensure that that they're 18+ and compliant with the rules.  At least that way, they can be told.  

[Barbieoxo 5,981]

51 minutes ago, runningback said:

I was replying to a post here where they said gay  posts were not accepted. thats all. 

The original post said they felt gay posts weren't accepted, that's very different to them actually not being accepted which I can assure you they are and welcomed if posted in the correct thread 

[Barbieoxo 5,981]

49 minutes ago, runningback said:

I would post more gay content but the rules on posting full bladder experiences when under 18 is that it has to be a solo experience and not something you are doing with another boy. a lot of my shared full bladder experiences including tickling and bladder massage and making out and edging each other were in high school so i cant post them according to the rules here. 

Lots of people also discuss their experiences which led to their piss love, alot happening before the age of 18 so it entirely depends in the scenarios and context 

[mickymoist 3,513]

It is also 3 years old 😄

[Barbieoxo 5,981]

7 minutes ago, mickymoist said:

It is also 3 years old 😄

Precisely that 👌🏻 😅😅😅