Is it okay to listen to your female relatives pee by standing outside the closed bathroom doors at home bathrooms?

[glad1 2,832]

I can't say I've intentionally done this, but at times female relatives have used my bathroom and peed a little loud. It's not like I could unhear what just happened, but when they came out I never showed any indication I noticed anything.

Not that my family is unattractive, but I don't have any feelings for my relatives. Well, except maybe my cousin's twenty-something daughter. 🙄 I was visiting one Saturday at her parent's lakeside cabin watching a game, when she came inside to use the bathroom. I'm not going to admit I listened, but I'm pretty sure she's a hoverer. 🤣

[gldenwetgoose 21,488]

I always love reading these type of posts - which start off with a question, and then more people contribute building up a picture of their preferences, beliefs and experiences.

When someone asks what is acceptable, or what is 'normal' - well of course pretty much everything we share on this site is outside of vanilla-normal. In a fifty shades of grey context, and using the biblical black as sin metaphor it's not black but it's not virgin white either.

So breaking things into steps...  my mind makes a rock-solid connection between female pee and arousal. Taking a step back up the thought processes and there's lots of related things which all cause that arousal...  seeing the act of peeing, hearing someone on the other side of a closed door peeing, seeing someone desperate to pee, hearing them express it. Seeing a puddle on the ground and a tissue.  Many of those things all rely heavily on my imagination to make the links between my senses and the things that turn me on.

Now, because I hear or see someone pee doesn't mean I want to have sex with that person - yes I'm aroused, but it doesn't mean I'm aroused enough to perform with that one person.

It's hard to explain, I suppose if I was walking down the street and saw someone eating a chocolate donut, I may suddenly realise how much I love donuts and feel hungry and crave a donut.  But it doesn't mean I'm going to snatch their donut - and my preference actually is for a chocolate caramel donut, a slightly different flavour.  So I may go to a different shop and buy my choice of donut.  I've been inspired to eat a donut, but not their donut....

[Kupar 13,339]

10 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

I always love reading these type of posts - which start off with a question, and then more people contribute building up a picture of their preferences, beliefs and experiences.

When someone asks what is acceptable, or what is 'normal' - well of course pretty much everything we share on this site is outside of vanilla-normal. In a fifty shades of grey context, and using the biblical black as sin metaphor it's not black but it's not virgin white either.

So breaking things into steps...  my mind makes a rock-solid connection between female pee and arousal. Taking a step back up the thought processes and there's lots of related things which all cause that arousal...  seeing the act of peeing, hearing someone on the other side of a closed door peeing, seeing someone desperate to pee, hearing them express it. Seeing a puddle on the ground and a tissue.  Many of those things all rely heavily on my imagination to make the links between my senses and the things that turn me on.

Now, because I hear or see someone pee doesn't mean I want to have sex with that person - yes I'm aroused, but it doesn't mean I'm aroused enough to perform with that one person.

It's hard to explain, I suppose if I was walking down the street and saw someone eating a chocolate donut, I may suddenly realise how much I love donuts and feel hungry and crave a donut.  But it doesn't mean I'm going to snatch their donut - and my preference actually is for a chocolate caramel donut, a slightly different flavour.  So I may go to a different shop and buy my choice of donut.  I've been inspired to eat a donut, but not their donut....

I'm hungry now 🍩

[gldenwetgoose 21,488]

2 minutes ago, Kupar said:

I'm hungry now 🍩

Hands off my donut....   Well, you could have a little nibble I guess.  It's nearly Christmas after all.  😋

[mickymoist 3,513]

Funny isn't it, I must be a very visual person, I don't find pee sounds in the slightest bit hot unless I'm already watching. Hearing through a toilet door, or a neighbouring cubicle does nothing for me. 🤷‍♂️

Edited December 22, 2021 by mickymoist
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[Kupar 13,339]

55 minutes ago, mickymoist said:

Funny isn't it, I must be a very visual person, I don't find pee sounds in the slightest bit hot unless I'm already watching. Hearing through a toilet door, or a neighbouring cubicle do nothing for me. 🤷‍♂️

Just another example of the immensely diverse range of responses we all have Micky 🙂 

Edited December 22, 2021 by Kupar
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[Peewee123 1,124]

I don’t think there anything particularly wrong with listening to people pee, I probably wouldn’t advise telling them as that may make them self conscious or a little weirded out though. I think it might be a little intimidating if you follow someone and noticeably stand outside for no reason. But if you were in the next room and decided to do nothing but listen subtly or stop to check your phone as you were walking past and listen then I can’t see an issue with that. I used to be very pee shy so if I heard someone outside I’d either not be able to go or would do everything I could to dampen the sound and limit everything. So I guess be aware of how they could feel if they know you are there. But overall it sounds harmless to me!

[Bacardi 10,134]

Personal thoughts:

As long as I don't see you doing it I don't care. If I open the door and you've got your ear pressed against it then I'd say that's a little weird lol. So keep it discreet and I'm sure your family members won't mind 😊

[gldenwetgoose 21,488]

On 12/22/2021 at 2:07 PM, Peewee123 said:

I’m a girl so no it doesn’t do anything for me as I hear it daily. I’m a bit weird in that the pee thing only appeals when I’m turned on, when I’m turned off it’s just a functional thing and does nothing. 

 

I can relate exactly to what @Peewee123 says - firstly though think about the fact that there are at least two different types of people on this site:  Those turned on by their own peeing and those turned on by others peeing.  There may of course be people in both camps.   Now, since peeing is something we all do, maybe 6+ times a day, a lot of the time we do it out of need more than anything. It's a function.  There may be times when we're already a little aroused and in that case prone to enjoying holding, being desperate, peeing maybe somewhere naughty.  But other times not so.

It's a chicken and egg thing maybe, which comes first ?   Having a bit of arousal going on and then enjoying the pee?  or Needing to pee and for whatever reason becoming aroused?

 

 

On 12/22/2021 at 2:08 PM, Bacardi said:

Personal thoughts:

As long as I don't see you doing it I don't care. If I open the door and you've got your ear pressed against it then I'd say that's a little weird lol. So keep it discreet and I'm sure your family members won't mind 😊

I have a picture in mind now of you suddenly opening the door and someone falling in at your feet as you catch them by surprise...

[Peewee123 1,124]

Yes! So most of the time, pee does nothing for me. It’s just a bodily function and I don’t think about it. If I see people peeing it does nothing or me and I just look away or walk past. I don’t do anything with pee usually until I’m turned on. When I’m turned on, suddenly the thought of peeing becomes a huge thrill and I start to want to trying alL sorts of things I read on here (the lower end less risky stuff). However the moment I orgasm, all those thoughts vanish and I’m not interested again and often I feel ashamed or embarrassed about anything I did during that time. It’s complex haha

[Peewee123 1,124]

@gldenwetgoose yeh that makes sense! I know I’m not alone in the way I feel. It does amaze me how diverse people are within this fetish, it’s been an eye opener joining this site. 

[mickymoist 3,513]

22 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

 

I have a picture in mind now of you suddenly opening the door and someone falling in at your feet as you catch them by surprise...

🤣 not just me then

[Bacardi 10,134]

12 hours ago, gldenwetgoose said:

I have a picture in mind now of you suddenly opening the door and someone falling in at your feet as you catch them by surprise...

I'm assuming you wouldn't say this to me unless you would press yourself against the door to hear me pee 🤣🤣 don't worry Goose I'd let you do more than just listen to me pee from the other side of the door. 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

Never for relatives, but I am ashamed to admit that I tried to sneak a peek of my sister's friends when they were peeing on the beach with me.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

22 hours ago, glad1 said:

I can't say I've intentionally done this, but at times female relatives have used my bathroom and peed a little loud. It's not like I could unhear what just happened, but when they came out I never showed any indication I noticed anything.

Not that my family is unattractive, but I don't have any feelings for my relatives. Well, except maybe my cousin's twenty-something daughter. 🙄 I was visiting one Saturday at her parent's lakeside cabin watching a game, when she came inside to use the bathroom. I'm not going to admit I listened, but I'm pretty sure she's a hoverer. 🤣

Now that I mention it, my situation is similar to yours. I don't intentionally listen, but I can fuckin hear them through the closed door. Sometimes I wonder if they can hear me peeing through the door, oh god that would make me so self conscious.

[JesseP 1,277]

I am very visual, so the sound doesn't do anything for me unless I can also see that is happening. Listening behind a closed door, to me and I accept others have very different interests which is fine, has no real interest.

At the end of the day each to their own, and this interest encompasses a whole load of variety and long may it carry on.

[Alfresco 11,631]

I would say it is no worse to listen to relatives peeing than it is to listen to anyone else peeing.   I have no qualms at all about listening to ladies peeing - but I don't advertise the fact to them.   I'm sure they sometimes know that I can hear them, but they probably are not bothered by that.  On the other hand, they probably just think of it as a noise that is made and that I hear and they probably don't realise that I enjoy it.  So, for example, we have a secretary that works in our house.   If I am in the kitchen, she makes various noises in the office (the next room over) from talking to people on the phone, coughing, rattling paperwork, shutting cupboard doors, none of which she would think twice about.   Then, if she needs to pee, she goes to the toilet, she closes the door and I hear the door shut, her clothes rustle, the tinkle in the toilet, the toilet roll being pulled off, her clothes being adjusted, the flush, the tap being run and the door opening.   She doesn't think anything of doing that and she probably doesn't think that I'm listening to that any more than I listen to her banging cupboard doors or using the photocopier.    The fact that I am listening more intensely at that point is not known to her and she, being none the wiser, probably doesn't care.   If she did know that I was enjoying it, I'm not sure whether that would change her to be more discrete about her timings, or whether she would actually like to know that someone appreciated her sounds.   I do think she would be shocked if she found me right outside the door when she opened it though.

As to the reverse situation, I work upstairs, so normally pee in the upstairs toilet and she might think it weird if I came down and used the toilet next to her office, but when I do pee, I happily aim for the centre of the water and make plenty of noise about it.   She must hear it and I don't know whether she likes it or whether she just treats it as another noise in the house.   She is obviously doesn't consider peeing to be something that has to be overly secretive though because one day I was mid pee in the upstairs toilet, which is immediately opposite the top of the stairs.  I was hidden by the door which was between me and the toilet, but was not fully closed when she called me from the bottom of the stairs.  She must have heard that I was peeing before she called me, but I replied and said "Just a minute, I'm peeing".   She said "no problem" and then carried on to ask me the question that she wanted to ask and we had a conversation whilst I was peeing loudly into the water and she was standing just at the bottom of the stairs. I finished in the bathroom and came out and continued talking to her with no mention of the peeing or an apology for interrupting me.   It was just the same as if she had come out of the office to talk to me whilst I was making a mug of tea.   It surprised me a little bit - I thought that if she'd come to the bottom of the stairs to call me and had heard me peeing then she would have gone back to the office and tried again a few minutes later.   

I have peed in the toilet next to her office when I've been downstairs helping her and the phone has rung, so she has answered the phone and I've nipped to the adjacent toilet rather than going upstairs.   Likewise, she has been to the toilet when I've been helping her with something and she left me to it whilst she went to pee just the other side of the wall.   As others have said, she probably just sees it as something we all do.

[WetNightmare 40]

The question I have is for OP, can you tell the difference in the sound by their parts?

If we rephrase this question you're asking it could border on "Is it ok to invade my family's space and privacy?" Might they view you as that creepy uncle that no one invites to family events?

[gldenwetgoose 21,488]

I think that @WetNightmare was just using the term 'uncle' as an example...   The real question touching on that fact that many people in the wider world think that our deep interest in pee is weird.  So I think the question being asked was - ignoring whether it's right or wrong, if a person was caught whilst they were standing outside a bathroom door listening, would it cause problems within the family. 

Really, each one of us has to make up our own minds about what we feel is acceptable.  It is a trade-off between satisfying our kink, against the risks we may take in doing that.

So to keep the example - if for example we were talking about you listening to your sister, mother, aunt or cousin, it really doesn't matter what I think.  It's your own decision how far you want to go.  There is always some risk to everything we do in life.  And if you're standing outside a bathroom door I guess there is a chance they hear a floorboard creak, see a shadow under the door, or the risk a different family member could find you standing there.  If you were caught what effect would that have on your relationship with the girl and with your mutual relations.  No judgement of course - just thoughts.

 

Also, you'll see I have removed a couple of threads. Hopefully you understand why.

[Dr.P 1,473]

"Is it OK to listen to your female relatives pee by standing outside the closed bathroom doors at home bathrooms?"

My answer, based on a lifetime of experience, is a resounding "YES!" but with some qualifications, most of which have been noted by Peewee123, Bacardi, Tman27, and gldnwetgoose.

Part 1. Early Experiences.

"Looking's free," was an old cliche from my younger days, which obviously no longer applies, in today's world, but an analog, applying to listening, must still be valid, since it is mostly involuntary, and unavoidable, as has been demonstrated in many of the previous posts, here. I see nothing morally wrong, or invasive of perceived privacy, about listening, but it depends very strongly on the feelings and attitudes of the person generating the sounds, and the interaction or feedback from the listener, if any. These feelings range from extreme pee-shyness, those people who run tap water to camouflage the hiss and tinkle, behind closed and locked doors, to those who carry on conversations, and may leave the bathroom door partially or totally ajar, while continuing to pee, with legs open. In my thankfully long life, I have had close relationships with women of these types, and many whose attitudes were somewhere in the middle, including relatives, Platonic friends, and romantic partners, of various ages, in different historic times.

I grew up in a working class family, in the Midwestern U.S., in the 1940's and 1950's. We lived in a small house, with a single bathroom, on the second floor, shared by my father, mother, and 3 younger sisters. My mother and sisters were in the habit of leaving the bathroom door partially or completely open, when they were just peeing. Since their peeing styles were quite modest, sitting all the way down, with their thighs together, and skirts in their laps, no hovering, squatting, or standing, I didn't get to see very much of interest, but I certainly heard a lot! And I could hear almost as much, when the door was closed.

I tend to be a visual person, but my intense curiosity about how women peed, made the connection between sight and sound, at a very early age. My mother was the only woman I knew, before I started school, and the only opportunities I had to satisfy that curiosity were when she visited the bathroom, to pee, and left the door open, which was most of the time. The fact that she had to lift up her dress, and sit down to pee, rather than standing, like me and my father, was very interesting. I thought about it a lot, saved it for future reference, and took every opportunity I had, to watch her, and listen to her, when the door was closed, since I noticed that the sounds of her peeing were very different from those of myself and my father.

My pee fetish began, literally at my mother's knee, right in the middle of World War 2, when I was between 2½ and 4 years old. My father worked a variety of shifts, as a photographic technician, in a defense plant, so my mother and I spent our days and nights, alone together, in the empty house, since my sisters had not been born yet. Being a very curious and naughty boy, with little else to do, I tended to follow her everywhere, including to the bathroom, to which she had no objections, as long as she was only peeing. When she had to pee, she always left the bathroom door open, when we were home alone, and she might even say, "I have to go," or "I have to wee-wee," inviting me to come along, when she went, if I hadn't followed her.

It quickly became obvious to me that peeing was more complicated for women, and the secretive way they did it, sitting down, with their legs together, with compressed bare thighs, dresses, or other clothing covering the action, made my curiosity even more intense. I wanted to know why they did it that way, and especially where and how it came out of their bodies. I also wondered what caused the sounds that their pee made, a gentle tinkle, or an occasional sharp, or high-pitched hiss, so different from those of boys and men. So, in addition to watching as much as possible, I started asking questions of my mother. My first question was,

"Why do ladies sit down when they wee-wee, instead of standing up, like boys and men?"

Her answer was, "Ladies have to sit down, when they wee-wee. If they stand up, they'll get all wet."

"Why?"

"Because they're made different from boys and men."

She didn't offer any further details. I had kept my interest secret, when I first thought about it, instinctively understanding that it might be naughty, so I didn't pester her for more information, for fear that she might not let me come into to the bathroom with her, and watch her, anymore. That time came, eventually, when I was about 4 years old, so I concentrated on listening, outside closed bathroom doors, from that time on. And I have continued that practice, as opportunities have arisen, right up to the present day.

I believe I have posted most of my adult audio experiences on PeeFans, over the years, but a few stand out, for their sheer erotic content, as well as for their social implications. The story of "Ellie" is one of those, which I posted here, about a year ago.

Part 2. "Ellie"

"Ellie" was an attractive lady, with whom I worked, in the 1970's and '80's. She had stunningly beautiful legs, which she loved to show off, wearing the shortest of miniskirts throughout the entire decade of the 1970's, and beyond. (Like Ally McBeal on US TV in the late 1990's). She was a few years older than I, recently divorced, and reputed to be a "swinger," at the time. We had many enjoyable, titillating conversations, at work, and eventually began dating, casually, but had not yet slept together, at the time this incident took place.

I convinced her to go along with me on a short business trip, to an adjacent state. We knew we would be sleeping together on the trip, and talked about it intimately and enthusiastically, during our day-long drive to our destination. She told me to bring along some "protection", since she was off the pill. (Her steady boyfriend had had a vasectomy, while I had not, at that point.) After checking into the motel, we showered separately and dressed for dinner, all casually and uneventfully, since we had 3 days, and there was no hurry to "jump each other's bones," as the saying went, at the time.

We were about to leave for dinner, standing together between the bathroom door and the room door, talking about the restaurant we had chosen, and how far it was from the motel. She asked me how much time it would take to get there. "About a half hour," I said. She turned to me, took my hands in hers, looked deeply into my eyes and said, "I have to "go" before we leave, OK?"

Without waiting for my answer, she slipped into the bathroom, pushing the door minimally, to a half-closed position, but still open about a foot, on the knob side, with a lesser gap, on the hinge side. She left it there, as if it didn't really matter to her, since she was just following a social protocol.

"Go ahead, get comfortable, we've got plenty of time to make our reservation," I replied, through the half-open door, trying to sound as casual and relaxed as possible.

Her manner was a huge (and very welcome) surprise to me, maybe a pleasant shock would be more accurate, since we had not yet slept together, and she was about to pee with no real visual or sound barriers between us! I was accustomed to women nervously closing and locking bathroom doors, and even running tap water to cover their peeing sounds, in similar situations, no matter how "liberated" they pretended to be, in the early to mid 1970's, when "women's liberation" and the "sexual revolution" were becoming popular.

The way she looked into my eyes and held my hands when she informed me of her need to pee, made me wonder if she was giving me some sort of invitation. I also wondered why she hadn't peed in complete privacy, without telling me, at all, during the time she had spent showering, and dressing for dinner, behind closed doors. That was my experience with most women I had dated, up to that time.

Seeing the half-open door, I was sorely tempted. I really wanted to watch her pee. But I knew that at this delicate point in the relationship, I didn't dare just walk in on her, or stand in the open doorway and watch her, where she could see me. To do so could be considered extremely rude, possibly frightening, creepy, or disgusting to her, thereby ruining what could be a great few days together. And I knew she would tell everyone at work what a sicko pervert I was, if she took it particularly badly. So I was torn between curiosity, lust, and fear. Curiosity and lust won, but I was extremely careful, knowing what I perceived to be the risks.

I moved silently to a point near the bathroom door, where I could see through the narrow open space between the hinge and the jamb, yet not be seen easily from her position, on the toilet. I had a perfect right side and partial front view of her, sitting on the toilet, short skirt gathered very high, around her waist, totally out of the way, panties below her knees, with her beautiful, smooth bare thighs fully exposed and separated comfortably, about 3 or 4 inches apart at her knees, and open all the way up to her slit, (which I could not see), very relaxed. She had a length of toilet paper, which she folded slowly and neatly, while she peed, and draped carefully over her left thigh, ready for use, and she was looking down at her thighs, presumably watching her stream, between them, rather than at the door. I could not see her pussy or her stream at this angle, but I could hear everything extremely well. This would have to do.

Although she sat in a very relaxed, nonchalant fashion, and her need hadn't seemed urgent when she told me she had to "go," her stream gushed and sprayed forcefully into the bowl, hissing loudly, stopping and re-starting three times, before slowing to a trickle and finally stopping. Although I had heard gallons of female pee, growing up with a mother and three younger sisters, in a small house, with one bathroom, I had never heard anything like this. The gushing and hissing were a fantastic turn-on, and the stopping and starting were incredibly exciting, nearly driving me over the edge, as I imagined her spraying her inner thighs and bum, with a burst, each time she re-started!

I also wanted to watch her wipe, since I was confident, in my fantasy, that this spectacular audio performance would have left her thighs and bum quite wet, or at the very least, sprinkled with a few drops, from the hissing sprays, and repeated starts and stops. I wanted to see where that wetness and those dribbles had landed, on her body, and watch how she wiped them away, if she tried to.

But I quickly came to my senses and moved discretely away from my vantage point, realizing that if she looked up from her thighs, to the doorway, and caught me too close to the bathroom door, it would give the game away, and all could be lost. I moved a modest distance away from the door, and feigned interest in my road map, while I waited for her to finish peeing and wiping, still able to hear everything going on, in the bathroom.

She emerged from the bathroom after a few minutes, still smoothing her skirt, and checking her bare legs in the full length mirror, presumably for dribbles. She looked me up and down, seemingly surprised to see me so far away from the bathroom door, but didn't say anything. I was polite, refraining from making lewd comments, like asking her if everything came out OK. We went to dinner, and slept together, for the first time, that night, and I never mentioned her very erotic peeing.

I wanted very much to watch her pee, with her consent, but I had no idea how to approach her. I didn't know if her behavior arose from her seeing her pissing as non-erotic (utilitarian), which was becoming a popular, "natural" view, in the 1970's, or if she was coming from an erotic attitude toward pissing, and testing my interest, or even teasing me, which I had not experienced first hand, at that time. So I never brought the subject up, for fear of being considered as a "perv." by her, or embarrassing her, at the very least, by letting her know that I was listening intently to her sounds. I was enjoying the audio experience immensely, and didn't want to lose any opportunities for it.

I have related this experience to several women friends, in the years since, and all agree that she was testing my interest in her peeing, or teasing me. "Ellie" and I dated, off and on, for about ten years after this incident, and she always peed the same way, when we got back to her house, leaving the bathroom door halfway open, hissing loudly, stopping, and re-starting several times, in one sitting. In all that time, I never summoned the courage to approach her, or ask her about her very erotic peeing style, even though we had a sexual relationship, extending over all of those years.

Dr. P.

 

[The99Club 351]

Here are my general answers to the original question here.

I love to hear a woman pee and imagine what is going on behind that closed door. For as long as I can remember I have tried my best to listen to any woman pee possible, family member or otherwise. In my house there are three bathrooms. One is positioned sort of in the middle of where people easily walk back and forth (some people don't like it there honestly) and I often time my walking back and forth to try and pass by the bathroom door while guests are peeing.  The drawback of the bathroom being where it is, is that the light and fan are on the same switch which makes it more difficult to hear.

The two upstairs bathrooms are literally right next to each other. So if the wall were taken down the toilets would literally be side by side. During big parties when people tend to use the upstairs bathroom I occasionally sneak into my master bathroom quietly and just listen through the wall when I see an appealing female guest heading up there.

I of course have listened to women peeing in countless locations over the years. Is it appropriate? Probably not! But it is fairly easy to get away with by behaving casually and quite easy to laugh off if you get caught from time to time. But...there is also nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

[Bob3322 92]

I did this a lot in the 1960s when I was a kid. My mom would host weekly meetings of the local womens club... and some of our aunts would be there. I would follow all the ladies to the bathroom and would listen at the door. We also had a door that did not close all the way, and I would peek a lot too. 

[Dr.P 1,473]

@Bob3322, I did similar things as a kid, in the 1940's and 1950's, and continued doing them, but VERY discreetly, all the way into my adult life. I still maintain an awareness of opportunities, even at my present, advanced age (80's). My mom, aunts, and sisters made it easy for me, since they usually left the bathroom door partially or totally open, so both sound and vision were often possible. They relied upon their very secretive peeing style, sitting all the way down on the toilet, with their thighs pressed tightly together, bending forward at the waist, to achieve or maintain whatever modesty they wanted.

[Bob3322 92]

3 hours ago, Dr.P said:

@Bob3322, I did similar things as a kid, in the 1940's and 1950's, and continued doing them, but VERY discreetly, all the way into my adult life. I still maintain an awareness of opportunities, even at my present, advanced age (80's). My mom, aunts, and sisters made it easy for me, since they usually left the bathroom door partially or totally open, so both sound and vision were often possible. They relied upon their very secretive peeing style, sitting all the way down on the toilet, with their thighs pressed tightly together, bending forward at the waist, to achieve or maintain whatever modesty they wanted.

Interesting... it seemed like when I peeked in on the ladies, most would sit on the toilet.. with knees together hands on knees back straight.. very prim and proper..lol

[Dr.P 1,473]

@Bob3322, Yes, that is a good description of the style that was apparently popular, in the 1940's and 1950's, with the additional caveat to bend slightly forward, for the sake of neatness. It seemed to me that it was actually considered "proper" by the ladies, particularly the mom's, of that earlier time, too. My mom trained all three of my younger sisters to use that style, I remember her yelling at one or another of them, "Bend over, so you don't get (the seat, your panties, or your legs) wet."

As you point out, this style was "prim and proper," and also very effective at hiding the action going on, in the toilet, so much so, that some girls and women didn't find it necessary to close the bathroom door, for privacy. My family apparently followed that theory. My aunts and my mom were quite irritated when my grandfather remodeled his house so that he had an unobstructed view of the toilet, from his favorite chair, in the living room, when the bathroom door was open. They buzzed about it for a long time, calling him a dirty old man, etc. Leaving the door open was probably a matter of convenience, so they were not isolated from other activities going on in the house, like kids getting into mischief, while they were taking a brief pee.

Edited October 11, 2022 by Dr.P
Added quotation marks to a direct quote.