Talkin' Pee With Platonic Friends of the Opposite Sex

[Kirby23 956]

My wife does not share my kink, and is generally reluctant to discuss pee-related topics with me.

So in the past, I've occasionally tried to casually bring things up in discussion with my female friends... to hear their stories, pick their brains, etc. I obviously have to be careful - I don't want to creep them out, so I try to bring the topic up casually.

I have a few close female friends that I'm comfortable talking to like this, especially my friend "K", who I've discussed here in the past. We've talked about things like hot tub peeing, "making a warm spot" in the ocean, etc.

I'm not really in touch with my friend "M" anymore, but when we used to talk regularly, no topic was off-limits. We'd discuss peeing in the shower, peeing in front of significant other, etc.

A former coworker of mine, Amy, would occasionally say interesting things. One time she said "I've been so busy today I haven't peed since I took a shower this morning." She also talked about peeing behind the shed when swimming (instead of peeing in the pool). But we weren't really friends (she was kind of a bitch), so I never got particularly close with her.

Another time, I was having lunch with my coworker (Heather). She relayed to me a story about how she went to her boyfriend's house to surprise him when he got home from work. But she didn't have a key, and was getting desperate while waiting for him to get home. Eventually she had to pop a squat behind his garage. 

Who else has similar stories? 

How do you start a conversation like this without seeming like a creep?

 

[Bacardi 10,134]

One of my friends at work and I have been talking heavy on threesomes. We are both in committed relationships but go in detail about what we'd do to each other in a three way between their partner and also one of my friends 🤭 at one point we talked about farts and about how the two of us would die laughing if one of us farted during sex. I jokingly asked if their partner had a fart fetish and they said no, then we went into a sprial of fetishes we found silly, but I totally asked them about a piss fetish and, surprisingly, they said "maybe" their partner had one 😁 

Hopefully that's a yes because if im gonna risk my marriage (I won't, calm down everyone lol) for a threesome the least I can do is have a little bit of pee play!

[PissDude 479]

I generally don’t. If I’m talking to a woman and she brings up something piss related, I nod and smile and don’t push. I have to be careful. I remember a discussion at work, where a woman friend of mine talked about trying to piss standing up and what a mess it was. I just about had to hold a notebook over my crotch and run back to my desk and do some breathing exercises to get myself under control.

 

My wife once made a negative comment about men who like watching women pee. I closed the bedroom door and explained myself to her; what I get out of it and why I find it sexy. She seemed to understand, but her memory is poor and she has no recollection of that, even though I spent about an hour on it with her. If it comes up again I’ll repeat it, but otherwise I’ll just sneak off here or to some pictures and videos I’ve saved when I get a chance. I tried to explain it to my ex-wife, but she started using it against me.

 

Fantasies work great in your own head where everybody else has to obey your rules and is eager to please you, but they don’t work well in reality when other people with their own opinions and free will and biases are involved.

[Kirby23 956]

17 hours ago, Bacardi said:

...Hopefully that's a yes because if im gonna risk my marriage (I won't, calm down everyone lol) for a threesome the least I can do is have a little bit of pee play!

Great story, thanks for sharing! It's definitely fun to fantasize, isn't it?

[Kirby23 956]

15 hours ago, PissDude said:

I generally don’t. If I’m talking to a woman and she brings up something piss related, I nod and smile and don’t push...

 

...otherwise I’ll just sneak off here or to some pictures and videos I’ve saved when I get a chance. I tried to explain it to my ex-wife, but she started using it against me.

Fantasies work great in your own head where everybody else has to obey your rules and is eager to please you, but they don’t work well in reality when other people with their own opinions and free will and biases are involved.

Man I can relate to all of this.

The "nod and smile" must take such restraint!

My wife is similar, which is why I have to seek out other outlets, such as this forum, and the sort of discussions I refetenced in this topic.

[gldenwetgoose 21,497]

I've said many times before that as soon as pee gets mentioned in any way in a conversation, I tend to put my poker game face on and try not to give away how much my interest has just spiked 1000%.  It's a natural defence that in most cases I don't want them to realise just how obsessed I am.

That does mean though - in my mind at least - lots of conversations go unsaid.

So, what I'm trying to do is just subtly tease out snippets of conversation and experience in a way that doesn't give away too much of my kink, and can be easily dropped if the chat isn't forthcoming.

For example if a lady were to announce "I'm bursting for a wee" (as random strangers do), to reply back with an innocent smile and a quip "try not to burst, it'll make an awful mess".   Or perhaps "I don't know if there are toilets nearby, what would be your Plan B".   Chances are it'd just be to hold it until she got home or to a bathroom, in which case that conversation is closed, but you never know...

[Havelock 1,526]

I tend to also put on a poker face if I'm in a broadly social or professional context.   I tend to put on poker face and engage in nonchalant conversation if peeing comes up in a social or professional context. However, there are some exceptions. I wrote about one here because I realized it deserves is own story link. 

https://peefans.com/topic/25724-wedding-bridesmaid-pee-and-play/

This is probably a terrible example because 99.9% of the conversations you are asking about never go this way. But I guess you never know where those conversations may go. Be careful out there and don’t push too hard unless the other party is down for going in that direction. 

[avatar 382]

I just had am experience that might fit into this thread last night.

In my group of friends, there's like six of guys and girl, and we all live kinda spread out far away from each other, so we talk in a group chat a lot. And we've kinda gotten to the point where any topic is on the table, like peeing, pooping, masturbation, sex (never in a flirty way, just a matter-of-factly), periods, whatever  genital anatomy or anything else that a stranger might consider gross. All openly and matter-of-factly, even with the one girl in there who has no issues chiming into the discussions of getting off or whatever else.

Well basically, the talk the other night was about the Ant-Man movie, which spiraled into cinema food which turned into a discussion of drink sizes and needing to pee during a movie. I've personally never had an issue with getting desperate in a movie, even when drinking a 0.75l cola over 3 hours along the new Avatar. But apprently, all of the other guys will have major issues even when drinking a 0,5l drink at an average length movie. That somehow turned into a discussion of bladder sizes lmao. Eventually that girl friend (not a gf lol) of ours showed up and shared her two cents.

She said that her bladder fills up really fast during the movies, and that she sometimes times her pee time afterwards. And apparently, she said that at the new Avatar it got her to the point when she was in pain and timed herself at almost 2 minutes straight. Now desperation or holding in other people is not really something that turns me on personally, so I just kept a straight face and only really felt impressed and kinda called out for a challenge at that lenght 🤣

Also, absolutelly not gonna assume that this is some holding kink for her or anything, as there have been no other previous indications about that. She's just that type of person who has no qualms about the human body or anything it does.

[gldenwetgoose 21,497]

The very best kind of friends...    Far less of the sort of dramas - he went out with her, she's not talking to him and all that.  Just sounds like you've got a great group of people to support, listen and be truly interested in each other.    And of course there's an inherent trust in there, sounds like you all share quite personal information knowing nobody is going to be gossiping or sharing it outwards.

Agree there's nothing to suggest a holding kink - just an example of when there was something more pressing going on, like watching the movie, than going to pee.

Interesting question though - if a conversation cropped up on porn, kinks, fetishes etc and people in your group were being their normal non-judgemental selves, would you maybe open up and reveal a little to them.   Maybe in 'watered down' terms at least.   Sounds like they wouldn't have a problem with it.

[avatar 382]

8 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

if a conversation cropped up on porn, kinks, fetishes etc and people in your group were being their normal non-judgemental selves, would you maybe open up and reveal a little to them

I'll have to be honest, this topic came up once actually, actually brought up by the girl in question. I considered letting something out, but I have unfortunatelly chickened out in the moment. Especially when noone else really brought up anything for themeselves, apart from one guy with a foot fetish, but that has been known about for a long time. Guess that as much as I'm open about talking sexuality with them, even some of the more "unconventional" aspects of it, I haven't had the courage to share this kink with anyone in my life, apart form you wonderful people here.

Perhaps one day, maybe when more liquid courage is at play and maybe someone else breaks the ice with other fetishes of their own.

[gldenwetgoose 21,497]

Totally hear you there @avatar and I'd be exactly the same I'm sure.   For us, our particular interest is perfectly safe and natural but at the same time we know most of the world could easily be freaked out and jump to lots of incorrect conclusions as to how extreme and deranged we are.

So any sharing about our particular interest would have to be in a conversation where other people have also declared similar 'levels' of kinks.  And then perhaps I'd still be initially downplaying the true extent.  Maybe confessing being turned on at seeing a picture of a girl pissing - as a starting point.  Something 'safe' like that with people outside our circle. 

[avatar 382]

16 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

So any sharing about our particular interest would have to be in a conversation where other people have also declared similar 'levels' of kinks

Yeah, I guess that's what kept me from sharing anything, that noone else responded in any way really. Also I know that at least one person has something that could be calssified as a "weird fetish" (how I know is a story of it's own lol) but I don't know exactly what it is, and even they kept quiet then. So maybe I should correct myself, not everything is on the table just yet.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

My friend IRL and I were talking about people not having to wear pants one time and I jokingly suggested that "If people didn't wear pants they could pee wherever they want" and they said that it was definitely someone's kink. I regret not dropping a hint. 

[camper1989 198]

Sitting around a campfire at a campsite,  I announced that I had to pee but didn't want to walk all the way to the facilities.  As I was hoping one of the girls present reacted saying:" you are a man,  so why not go behind a bush?" I answered that I indeed did that at night, and that that was much easier for men than for women. As a reaction she only smiled,  and I concluded she peed in the bush also. Unfortunately I didn't dare to ask....

[windy55 225]

     I don't know how the topic of peeing in public came up, but when I was dating a woman during the period between marriages, she told me of an incident that she experienced. She was ten years older than myself and was a sixty-five years old widow who dyed her hair red. She would say that she was healthy as as a horse, and indeed she was a very energetic senior who apparently would let any male between the age of fifty and seventy who wanted to give her a go to do so. She was not well educated, very earthy in her demeanor, and crude in her speech. She told me how she had traveled with a truck driver across the country and their sexual adventures on the road. They would stop at a truck stop and pay for a shower that they would share and would fuck in the stall while others showered in stalls next to where they were having sex. She told me how very early one morning after spending the night in the cab, she awoke and was experiencing a terrible need to pee. She did not want to get all dressed and go inside so she jumped out of the cab wearing only her tee shirt top and squatted down between her partner's truck and another and released her pent up pee on the tarmac. After she had finished voiding her bladder, she noticed that there was a camera on a light pole that would have caught her entire performance. I guess she told me this because she thought it was a funny anecdote and not that she suspected that I was into peeing (or did she?)   

[MRJH22 221]

Interesting topic. When pee comes up I will keep it casual whilst trying to get as much information without being too pushy. Some of my female friends are more open to sharing details than others.

I posted here in the past about a text conversation one friend had with me while she needed a pee during a bus trip. 
My girlfriends sister is also bery open when it comes to discussing pee, poo and period related matters with me. I half think she may have a bit of an interest in toilet related matters but I can’t be sure, and probably never will be.

I also have 2 friends that peed while we were drinking. One friend has peed in front of me a few times and the other peed while we were talking on the phone. Drink will always lower the inhibitions.

That also reminds me of another friend who got me and her boyfriend to stand either side of her for cover as she peed in a beer cup during an outdoor concert. She also mentioned something about a former teacher of hers that discussed something to do with pee during a class. Don’t remember the details. It may come up in conversation again sometime.

[on the porch 718]

On 2/17/2023 at 3:22 AM, gldenwetgoose said:

Totally hear you there @avatar and I'd be exactly the same I'm sure.   For us, our particular interest is perfectly safe and natural but at the same time we know most of the world could easily be freaked out and jump to lots of incorrect conclusions as to how extreme and deranged we are.

So any sharing about our particular interest would have to be in a conversation where other people have also declared similar 'levels' of kinks.  And then perhaps I'd still be initially downplaying the true extent.  Maybe confessing being turned on at seeing a picture of a girl pissing - as a starting point.  Something 'safe' like that with people outside our circle. 

We have to go very slow on this subject to out siders ,or they give you a disgusting look , I , like most here had to walk down a slow road on this . I was with this woman I see now and then , before we got together , at a party , lots of people and lots of music and drinking , she was feeling no pain at all , and she stood up and said ,". I GOTTA PEE "  most of us laughed , I said , do you need any help , she said if I fall over yes . I walked her to the bah room and she said , keep the door open if I need help ,  OMG  yes indeed ,,, slowly more and more of this went on with time ,, now we both enjoy it every time we see each other 

 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 2/17/2023 at 11:50 AM, Ms. Tito said:

My friend IRL and I were talking about people not having to wear pants one time and I jokingly suggested that "If people didn't wear pants they could pee wherever they want" and they said that it was definitely someone's kink. I regret not dropping a hint. 

Side note, pretty much all of my irl friends are gay/trans/queer in some form, so gender isn't too huge a factor. However I make lots of piss jokes with the. I should probably tone it down lest they sus me out. 

[Kirby23 956]

On 11/15/2023 at 6:51 PM, MRJH22 said:

Interesting topic. When pee comes up I will keep it casual whilst trying to get as much information without being too pushy...

My sentiments exactly, I think this is a good approach, and I've had success with this approach. 

Because most people just look at pee as a bodily function rather than a fetish, sometimes it's the topic of a funny story, an embarrassing anecdote, etc. And then the delicate balancing act begins...

[Peekid 277]

I haven’t ever actually been the one to bring it up, but when I was first getting to know one of my friends, she mentioned something about people peeing everywhere in Paris, which she had recently visited. Based on the way she said it though, I got the feeling that she wasn’t really into it, so I decided to leave it at that. I feel like mentioning it in a way sort of similar to that might help though. Hopefully my explanation made sense 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

My best friend (the one I made the joke about if no one wore pants to) heart reacts all of my piss-related comments and memes whenever I text him. 

[oliver2 4,419]

3 minutes ago, Ms. Tito said:

My best friend (the one I made the joke about if no one wore pants to) heart reacts all of my piss-related comments and memes whenever I text him. 

Could be a hint

[ppppppp 1,499]

Years ago, when I was in college, I was talking to a girl in the row behind me, waiting for the class to start.  She told me she'd been to a particular music festival over the summer.  She told me what was good about it.  Then the bad.  The portaloos.  

'They were horrible.  I didn't use them.' she said.  'I'd just squat in the grass and hope that there weren't too many watching.'

The class started, leaving me imagining her (petite, slim, slightly ginger bonde, curly hair) dropping her well-fitting jeans and squatting to pee against a fence.

[likewetting 247]

Maybe you can sneak peeing into a conversation in a non sexual way. Like when  someone talks about travelling you can say you hate airports because of the urinals where guys stand shoulder to shoulder and you feel uncomfortable with that. And then you can continue saying 'I bet there are people who are into that, wink wink'. And you can exchange airports with other public places.

 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 11/22/2023 at 1:48 PM, oliver2 said:

Could be a hint

Do I dare tell him?