What’s your opinion on listening to people pee?

[ramsesisthebest 47]

I’ve always found it really creepy whenever someone makes a post about overhearing someone pee while they’re in the bathroom. It seems a bit creepy to give extensive descriptions of a time you heard a non-consenting woman do a normal bodily function in the exact place she’s supposed to do it. 
 

That being said, I’ve recently started working at a desk next to a small single-stall bathroom, and hearing my coworker pee has become the highlight of my shift. What are your thoughts on overhearing others pee? I definitely get the appeal now, but it still feels like a disrespectful thing to sexualize on the internet. 

[gldenwetgoose 21,470]

I think I've posted something similar to what I'm about to say, but I'd never find it again to repost...

We as a collective are, unfortunately, a group of society's outcasts.  Weird perverts, pee obsessed creeps.  That is how the 'vanilla' world would perceive us.

Of course I don't believe that statement, I'm not calling anyone weird or a pervert.  We are a huge band of friends who for reasons we often can't explain, find ourselves fascinated or aroused by the act of pee emerging from its place in the human body.  For some it is a non-sexual thing, they maybe enjoy the feeling of a full bladder, controlling and mastering the feelings of desperation, and then choosing to release somewhere - seeing that release, feeling its warmth, seeing the mess that it makes.  For some this invokes positive memories or triggers subconscious feelings.  Maybe it's a form of rebellion and kickback against authority.

For some they enjoy all these feelings themselves.  For other people all these things may also be the case, but they trigger sexual stimulation.  Maybe it's thinking about the location of the peehole within the sex organ, thinking about all of the above things happening to a person we're already sexually attracted to.  Either as a bystander and casual observer or as a participant in a mutual sexual act.  When someone else is involved there's then the whole dynamic of equality of role or dominance / submission over them.

Now - to my point - we are all in this together, we whether we like it or not find ourselves all with this common 'interest'.  Many different aspects, but common.  And that is why we're so respectful as a community to each other.  Some people may differ drastically in what they enjoy, but we know that outside this forum is a world that doesn't understand and would be quick to label us.  So our secrets often stay between us to be shared in private here.

 

All of that means that nobody is going to judge - nobody here is going to say that listening to people is creepy.   It's no less or more than watching a drunk girl staggering down an alleyway and squatting, or wondering if a guy pissing against a tree is doing it out of sheer need or partly enjoyment.  Or watching a video of two people giving golden showers. If we're not witnessing it for real then fantasising whilst watching videos and photos of it.  Absolutely anything we do is on the same level in that sense.

I guess a big part of what you're saying isn't about hearing a random stranger, but is about it being a coworker, a friend and someone who probably feels they have your trust.  And despite all the traits I've described above, we're all decent people with consciences and integrity.   So the fact she's locked the door we imagine she wants privacy, her sounds betray that privacy and it seems like a further betrayal to describe them on the internet.  I get that totally (if that's anything like what you're thinking).

 You don't actually have to share anything with us - if you're ok with listening for yourself, then we don't need to know.  If you really wanted to describe something to us then perhaps break all the ties that link it to your workplace and to her.

Whichever and whatever, don't go beating yourself up about an inherent 'interest' which in all probability you didn't choose to have.

[Ms. Tito 2,394]

I mean I don't intentionally listen, but sometimes it's hard NOT to hear people pissing. Like some doors are just too thin to block sound. 

[Brutus 2,196]

As someone who's posted many experiences that involve listening, I sometimes wonder how many people don't like it and simply say nothing. As to whether it's disrespectful to sexualize, at the core it comes down to how one feels about voyeurism, which is anchored in privacy violation. I've seen others on the forum express dislike of voyeurism for this reason. I've listened to many women peeing through restroom doors, without them having a clue I was. Would they approve, almost certainly not. Here is how I rationalize all of this in my mind.

1. Some women hate the thought of being heard, while some women state they don't care if someone hears them peeing.

2. Many women on this forum have posted stories, both real and fictional that involve listening, and reacted positively even to voyeur videos.

3. As Ms. Tito stated, sometimes you have no choice as doors are often too thin and you hear peeing regardless. It's bound to pique someone's interest.

4. When inside a public restroom with others, you hear everything. In that sense, while we all expect a degree of privacy, we all seem to agree that the audible element of privacy simply cannot be realized due to that nature of being that close and separated by a partial wall. So if we expect others to hear us in surrounding stalls, is it not reasonable to accept that you may also be heard outside the restroom itself? And if so, if someone secretly likes hearing and stops there, is that really harming you?

5. I'm not sure why, but I have a lot of female followers. Although anecdotal, the point is that if women here on the forum admire me enough to follow me after posting stories involving listening. That indicates to me I'm not creeping them out, and reasonable evidence that most others are at least not bothered. 

6. Moderators allow it and they consider content allowance very heavily.

In summary, voyeurism is one of those things that people are never going to agree on. It's very subjective to the individual. 

[Sophie 24,371]

I love listening to other women peeing and I love knowing others can hear me too. I don't go out of my way to listen to people peeing, I'm not going to stand outside the bathroom door and spy on them. But if a woman is sitting next to me in the next toilet stall I will absolutely listen to the music they are making, and join in with my own little tune. 

[Eliminature 5,209]

I'm not into other people's peeing sounds myself. I've tried to get into it, but it's just not my thing. 

I admit I get quite a bit of enjoyment out of peeing standing in a ladies' lavatory and loudly thundering my stream into the water. It drowns out everyone else's sounds! It's the reversal of what you'd expect; a woman pissing loudly from a standing position instead of sitting quietly and tinkling softly. 

As for consent, you're quite right. Consent is important to me and that's why I'm not overly comfortable with voyeurism or hidden camera peeing. I prefer looking at exhibitionists like myself. Those who have read it will notice that in the fictional pee story I recently submitted, the "gentleman" of the band has to remind two of the notorious womanizers about consent before things can proceed. 

[WantonLee 860]

I am not so much into hearing as into seeing a lady peeing. But _only_ if she actually WANTS to be seen (or heard, for that matter), as otherwise there is no... connection between her and me.

Plus for me it is a sexual thing, and if it is not sexual to her, it's pointless (because it's just a rather mundane activit if it is just done out of necessity).

 

 

 

 

[Dr.P 1,473]

My short answer is that I'm all for it. I have posted extensively on the subject, on Pee Fans, since 2017, most recently in January of 2021, so there is no point in reiterating my comments, here. I am in general agreement with the current comments and opinions of gldnwetgoose, Ms.Tito, Brutus, and Sophie.

I don't see anything creepy or morally wrong with it, as long as the listener doesn't interact with the pee'er in any way, to cause embarrassment, anxiety, anger, fear, or other negative emotions, or record her sounds, without permission of the pee'er. This latter would extend to verbal description and identification of her sounds to her acquaintances, and even to herself, without her permission.

Given architectural realities, sound insulation of bathrooms, both doors and walls, in public and private buildings, is generally notoriously poor, at least here in the U.S., so hearing the sounds is virtually unavoidable, which absolves the listener, pretty much, in my opinion. Why feel guilty about something which is part of the environment, which we all share?

The attitude of the pee'er to her own sounds is another significant factor, since they vary widely among individuals. For some, those sounds are very embarrassing, to be concealed, at all costs. These are the women who close all doors and windows, and run tap water, while peeing, to camouflage their hiss and tinkle. They may even try to aim their streams at the porcelain, rather than the water, to minimize secondary sounds, even if the back splatter gets messy.

Others are totally unconcerned, and don't care who hears them. They are usually unaware, or don't care about the sexual connotations of their peeing sounds in the minds of potential listeners. They may even mention their sounds, and joke about them, in casual conversations. These are the women who will carry on a casual conversation with a listener, while they are peeing.

Still others are aware of the possible sexual appeal of their sounds, and may use them as an attractive device, in reality, and in conversations. This awareness can have other consequences, depending on the attitude of the pee'er toward the potential listener. If she does not want to attract a particular listener, she may try to suppress her sounds. Or if she perceives that a particular listener finds the sounds, or the act of urination itself, to be sexually unattractive, she may again attempt to suppress her sounds, if she wants to attract that listener. So it can get complicated.

 

[Kupar 13,324]

The best thing about this discussion is the honesty, thoughtfulness and civility of it all. This is a remarkable community.

[Jackman 6]

I will always try my best to hear girls piss.    Opportunities are few and far between, but if they're pissing, I'm listening.     I don't care if that's good or bad.    Of course, my preference is to SEE, but that's only really possible with my wife, and hookers.    So other than that, I'd rather hear it than not.     Better than nothing.

Edited April 8, 2022 by Jackman

[Beach Bro 116]

Guys hear other guys pee all the time in locker rooms and public bathrooms.  No big deal.

It gets interesting when I'm in a private home and a guy will leave the bathroom door open and pee loudly into the water of the toilet, especially if women are present.  

[wettingman 569]

I Love it when I can hear a female peeing if I am close by. My ears will perk up and I will focus on trying to catch the sound of her pee hitting the water. Catching a hiss is a big bonus. However, I will never, ever move myself to be closer to the door, let alone put my ear to the wall or door, or anything else to enhance my chances just to hear the sound of her peeing. That would be creepy, intrusive, and just wrong.

[Alfresco 11,615]

I love hearing girls pee.   It is interesting to hear the variation in sounds that different ladies make and yes, I often conjur an image in my mind as to what the image would be if I could see it.

As to the morality of listening, well I have no qualms about it.  It is not like I am installing secret microphones to detect something that could not otherwise be heard, I am just enjoying hearing a sound that is being made anyway.

Consider it a slightly different way; If a girl walks down a busy street and she is wearing tight trousers or a nice dress, chances are that men are going to enjoy the view.  They won’t say anything, she won’t know who is looking at her or what they are thinking, but chances are, she is aware that some people will look at her and enjoy the view as it is a natural thing for men to appreciate the female form (and vice versa).  You wouldn’t say that was voyeuristic or intrusive as they are only enjoying what they see in front of them.   If the man starts lifting a ladies skirt for a better view or sticks a camera under their skirt, then they have crossed a line of generally accepted decency and is likely to get a slap or worse if detected.  Same applies to listening to pee.  If you simply listen to what you can hear and happen to enjoy it then no issue.  If you plant microphones or hide where you shouldn’t be in order to listen, then that is potentially spying and it could be construed as intrusive if detected.

What about in public unisex toilets when you are in the next cubicle to a person of the opposite sex?  I can’t help but enjoy the sound of a lady peeing the other side of a thin piece of board!  

Different people will have their own opinion on where the boundary between casual listening and spying sits, and that is where you have to personally decide what is right for you.  E.g, if there is a guest in your house and she goes to the toilet and closes the door, Do you listen to a faint, distant sound from your seat in the living room or do you stand right outside the bathroom and get a clearer sound?  Maybe you know that you shouldn’t really stand right by the door, but maybe it is knowing that it is not good etiquette that makes it more exciting?

And with full disclosure, yes, I have sometimes been that person who engineers a trip to the kitchen when a house guest uses the downstairs loo just so I can be a bit closer to the source of the sound.

[M.Vixen 772]

I’d say in general I don’t pay attention to the sound of other ladies peeing in the ladies room. You respect my privacy, I’ll respect yours, something like that I guess 🤷‍♀️ It’s an ‘automatic’ proces in my brain, not something I actively choose not to pay attention to. I’m pretty sure that anything out of the ordinary would trigger my attention though. Like the sound of a pee stream clattering on the floor for example. In which case I guess I would be curious 🤫

Maybe it’s also because I’m a rather self-conscious/ socially anxious person myself. Although it’s not that bad anymore these days. I do still project it on others though.. to some degree. The summer before corona I went to an event/tour/experience thing, where the vast majority of people attending were men (90%.. maybe a little less.. but definitely something like that). The starting point was a small old (industrial I guess) airport that was no longer in use (not as an airport anyway). While my friend signed us in I figured I’d go use the bathroom because I wasn’t sure when the next opportunity would be and/or if there would be any other options along the way. Someone pointed me to a very long hallway so I walked over there and passed by the door to the mens toilets first. Which was open, so I could see there were plenty of cubicles and urinals. Next was the door to the ladies room, so I went in there. It was quite a large space but it had only one sink and one occupied toilet. With the fewest amount of wall possible to it (about 15 cm gap under the door, some wall to maybe 2 meters high, and that was it. The ceiling was at least twice as high..). It was pretty quiet so I felt sorry for the lady who I’m sure could now hear that there was someone waiting for her. So I left -closing the door behind me to be obvious- and decided to walk up and down the long hallway for a bit instead. A few of the other doors I passed all lead to mens showers, and one to womens showers. The place was absolutely deserted and nobody was in need of a shower I was sure so I decided fuck it, and used one of the ladies showers. Rinsing after myself with the shower and leaving everything clean of course 😅 

[DoctorDoctor 1,388]

If I am not trying and happen to overhear the sound of someone peeing, I feel listening is fair game.  Sorry to those who don't feel that way.

Edited June 5, 2022 by DoctorDoctor
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[dltq 121]

On 6/3/2022 at 9:50 AM, wettingman said:

I Love it when I can hear a female peeing if I am close by. My ears will perk up and I will focus on trying to catch the sound of her pee hitting the water. Catching a hiss is a big bonus. However, I will never, ever move myself to be closer to the door, let alone put my ear to the wall or door, or anything else to enhance my chances just to hear the sound of her peeing. That would be creepy, intrusive, and just wrong.

It's always been a difficult balance but I just keep a good distance while trying to maximise the signal-to-noise ratio. If I don't get anything, oh well. Better safe than sorry.