Official News PeeFans 2019 Survey Results

[Admin 14,788]

Thank you to everyone who responded to the survey. All entrants who listed their username will have a chance of winning free gold membership in the upcoming prize draw next week.

Whilst the survey was done for the sole purpose of improving PeeFans, I thought I would publicly provide a summary of the responses.

 

Section One

Q1. What is your main reason for visiting for visiting PeeFans?

The overwhelming consensus was 'the community / chatting with like-minded people'. This was not surprising, as I have always felt our biggest differentiator was that this isn't just a porn site, but a group of people sharing things together. Many answers highlighted pictures and (even more so) videos, but I was surprised to see stories being just as equally mentioned. My personal view is that in terms of pictures and videos we probably already have a good balance and don't need to change much, but that we could perhaps do more to encourage stories, as there are very few sites to find that kind of thing. This links in well with the new interactive story plans I have, launching this week.

Q2. How happy are you with the way PeeFans is right now?

Not a single vote from the 119 participants that was unhappy or very unhappy. I suppose it's obvious that anyone who still visits the site is likely to be quite happy with it, but I was still very pleased with these results - especially as 'very happy' was by far the most popular option. If your happiness with the site ever changes, please message me, as I always want to hear any concerns and feedback.

Q3. What is PeeFans missing that would make you visit more often?

The most popular answer (by far) was a variation of not sure / nothing.

Other answers included (with my comments in italics):

More female members + more content/participation - This was recently discussed in detail on the forum. We will be externally advertising PeeFans over the coming weeks, which is something we have not done much of. This will hopefully bring more pee fans to the site and make the site more active. I have already mentioned wanting to encourage more stories, and there were other comments of wanting to see more of certain things, such as hentai or male peeing. However, generally speaking the amount of content posted is determined by members, so all I can really do is ask that all of you share as much as you can, as this will prompt others to do the same. For those asking for more (naughty) pee videos in particular, the gold gallery is getting a huge update this week. 

A section for pee art like paintings, drawings etc. - This can already be posted in the Pictures section (in fact some already have). If there are enough threads made with this kind of content, it will get its own section, so start by just making a thread with any pee art you find/make.

Better chat / private chatrooms - If more people start using the current live chat, I am happy to invest in a chat system with more features. Ultimately though this again comes down to user-driven action, as I think most people just want more people to use the chat rather than any fancy extras. When more people take the imitative to start chats, it encourages others to join in. I am not so sure about private live chat though, as we already have PM's (which can be group messages as well), and ideally want to keep most of this site as an open community rather than lots of mini groups.

Emphasis on dating/hookups - We have a subsection for personal ads & dating, but unfortunately we are unlikely to expand beyond this. My personal opinion is that if you are looking to meet someone, then just talking to them around the site and then PM'ing is a better route than a dating platform, simply because the male:female ratio is so skewed. There are already dating sites available, and so I think our focus should continue to be community-driven rather than dating-driven. 

Way to pay for gold that minimizes my connection to the purchase - Already possible. Please PM me. Upgrading to gold is already very secure and will not in any way link you to any adult sites.

Safe for work mode - Honestly I'm not sure how this would work - I suppose in sections where there is typically just text it could kind of work, but given the nature of the site I think this would be very difficult. Gold members can switch to a theme like the plain blue and white one which certainly look much more natural, and as there are no ads there will be no peeing pictures on the screen except for any in user posts. 

Scat content / ability to privately send video files / public video gallery / member video uploads - I have linked these together as the answer to them all is that it's unlikely to happen as we we have to pay for storage and bandwidth space, and it would sadly be too difficult to fund all of these things if they were free - that's why the video gallery is for paying gold members. Due to having limited amounts of space, that's also why pee content takes the priority, as that's the reason we're all here (and there are other sites for other fetishes  that are solely dedicated to them - although you can still talk about other fetishes in the sex section though).

Q4. What else would you like to see changed or added to PeeFans?

The most popular answer (by far) was a variation of not sure / nothing.

Other answers included (with my comments in italics):

Competitions/events - We have always done these and will continue to do them, such as the current games running and forum awards etc. People are welcome to run their own mini challenges at any time though. If you have a bigger idea, you can reach out to me if you need some help setting something up.

More general sections - Certainly open to this, but it would only happen if the general section was becoming full with certain types of threads. For example, if lots of sports threads popped up, we'll have a sport section, but right now there is no need. Just to be really clear though: if there is anything you want to talk about, just make a new thread in the general area. There's no real limit. By all means make 5 threads on different tv shows - it's completely fine even though there isn't a specific tv section (yet). 

Remove quote button - I think we need the button, but people need to stop quoting the whole post when it contains images. Instead you can partially select just the text you are trying to reply to. 

Dislike button / don't like certain content - Most social sites don't use this simply as it promotes negativity and turns things into a good/bad competition, which we don't want here. If something is really bad, report it. If you just don't like it much, simply ignore it. You can even ignore all of a user's post if you don't like their content. Not every post needs a reaction though, and I see no benefits of people disliking content other than it causing unnecessary offence. 

Gallery for pictures - Already available to gold members in the clubs section. Used to be freely accessible to everyone but wasn't used much.

More ads, free gold membership - Unfortunately ads alone wouldn't be enough to fund the site, but I think the current balance is good. It means that those who want all the extra features of gold can get them if they help support the site, but those that don't aren't bombarded with ads.

Knowing members gender without going to profile - Possible, but specifically not set this way to ensure women aren't singled out hugely and spammed. It's only a click to visit their profile and actually learn a bit more about them.

Partnership with pee producers - Making our own content and partnering with other pee sites is already planned for the future. 

Stop duplication of photos in pictures section - This was a bug from the forum software change years ago. It doesn't affect new posts. Not much we can do about it without manually deleting the old duplicates which would be a huge job sadly. If you are experiencing this on new posts please let me know.

Weekly awards / member of the month etc - The system already automatically gives out awards for those that receive highest reputation each day, and you can see the weekly leaderboard on site homepage. I think the annual awards work best for other categories as would become a bit much otherwise.

Better way to categorize videos - I agree videos section could be organised better. I think this comes down to naming threads in the best way possible though, and reporting videos posted in wrong threads.

Stop unsolicted Pms - Already in place. Simply report the message and it will be dealt with. Or, ignore the user so they can't PM you again.

Pin posts to your profile - In your 'About Me' section, you are very welcome to post links to some of your favourite threads/posts etc. 

Story summaries/tags - I fully agree with this. When posting a story, it would be ideal if authors could use the first few sentences just to summarise what type of peeing is featured in the story (e.g. wetting or public peeing etc) so people know before reading whether they'll be into it. Again, this is unfortunately not something I can control, but I very much approve of the idea.

Lots of sub menus to get back to home on mobile - This shouldn't be the case, but you can also just click the logo at top of every page to return home.

The layout changes - It hasn't changed in a while. What you described sounds like you are viewing the site on different devices. Due to the different screen size, things like the chat will appear in different places (e.g. on the side if on a widescreen display, but underneath if on a mobile device as there wouldn't be room otherwise).

More profile customisation - Sure, what fields would you like added?

Member map - Added; see navigation bar.

Section for people looking for dates/friends - Already exists, personal ads subsection.

Pee game - working on something like this as we speak, but very early stages. 

 

If I missed anything that you feel isn't covered above, please let me know.

Upshot: I will try to promote the site more, which should bring more female members and more content, but ultimately it is up to you guys how much actually gets posted. Just because there isn't a specific section for something, doesn't mean it can't be posted in a new thread, so get creative and share whatever you want. Several of the things suggested are already doable/possible, so please contact me if ever unsure on how something works or where it is. 

[Admin 14,788]

Section Two

Please rate how strongly you agree with these statements (5= strongly agree)
 

 

PeeFans is easy to use
Almost all 4's or 5's. Seems like there are no issues. BUT don't feel bad if you are having any confusion with the site - not everyone is familiar with the forum software. If you ever can't find anything or want to know how something works, check out the forum FAQ's section (under Introductions area) OR drop me a message / make a thread in the 'News, Help & Feedback' section.

 

I like the way PeeFans looks
Almost all responses were a 4 or 5. No 1's. No plans to drastically change the design. Gold members can change the theme. The one thing I do intend to change is add a 'dark' mode, as although there is one theme that is quite dark, it's not a truly black/night theme.

 

The ads are annoying / in the way
Most people disagreed with this statement which is good. There are no plans to introduce any popups/popunders etc, so I think most people can tolerate a few banner ads in order to keep the forum free. Of course, gold members get all ads removed.

 

I would like to see more events and competitions on PeeFans
Although there were far more 4's and 5's than 1's or 2's, the most popular answer was 3. This to me suggests that we should continue to run competitions and events as we are doing, but there isn't a huge need to do LOTS more. A few bigger forum-wide events per year should do the job. There is nothing stopping members creating threads with pee challenges any time of year though.

 

If a marketplace was introduced to buy new pee videos, I would buy some if they looked good enough
Extremely mixed responses as expected, but enough interest for me to add this to the list of future plans. It won't be here in the immediate future, but fully expect to see this later down the line. It will in no way interfere with the rest of the site, so will be usable for those who do want it, but out the way for those who don't.

 

I would pay for a live pee cam show
Less interest than the marketplace, but still some interest. I think I won't bother trying to add a full live cam element to the site (e.g. myfreecams but for pee), BUT once in a while we will host a one-off cam show that is more of a bigger event. Again, this won't be immediate future, but I fully plan to have at least one live pee show here at some point, as I think that would be good fun.

 

Upshot: Much like section 1, I was very pleased to see these answers. It's great to hear most people seem generally very happy and positive towards the site, so we will continue doing what we are doing, and potentially add a few extras here and there for those who do want them (but without compromising the core of what this site is - a community/forum). 

[Admin 14,788]

Section Three

Gold Membership

This is a bit of an overgeneralisation, but I think the clear consensus is that it's not for everyone, but most people certainly understand the need for it. If it means the rest of the site can sustain itself, then it is a good thing in most people's eyes. This site provides a lot of free content, and I still think it's fair that those willing to fund the site (and literally keep it alive) get extra perks, videos and features. 

The 2 most common reasons for people not purchasing it are not having the money at the moment, or simply never paying for adult websites. Both very fair reasons of course, although I would encourage all non-gold members to check out the following thread for a little more information:

 

Upshot: Gold membership will continue to run and improve. Some big updates are imminent. If you are willing to help the forum survive, and want more info about everything gold members can enjoy, visit https://peefans.com/gold 

[Admin 14,788]

Section Four

The vast majority of people seemed to find us by searching (mainly on Google). This does highlight the need for promotion elsewhere, which I will try to do. I would ask that all members continue to refer people they know of who may be interested, including sharing the link on appropriate other sites. It really does help make the site better and more active. Thanks a lot to everyone who has already been doing that. Obviously the more people who chip in with promoting the site (especially as some people seemed to have some good ideas of where/how to promote), the faster we'll grow, so please do feel free to do any advertising you can. 

The most popular answer to favourite pee site was peefans - obviously a biased sample by asking peefans users, but this was still nice to see, as the question was honestly designed to find out what other sites people liked. 😂

I won't go into details of responses on the last question which asked for any final thoughts to be sent specifically to me, but all your comments have been heard. I will use them all to improve peefans as much as I can. Thank you very much for all the kind messages, and for everyone who completed the survey. 

Upshot: I think most people seem happy with the site in general, and you've all given me some ideas of how to make it even better! The survey was helpful and may become an annual thing if people are happy to participate. I honestly will be bearing everything that has been said in mind, even if it is not directly actionable right now. Many things I can do something about right now though, and I'll certainly do my best with them.

Thanks again.

(PS. Don't forget that feedback is an all year round thing - don't wait for the survey if you have an idea/issue/complaint, my inbox is always open. 🙂 )

[spywareonya 37,961]

I agree with EVERY SINGLE THING YOU WROTE

Really each one

 

I am particularly happy with your (very polite, quite your style, I would have been slightly more stern) answer about seeing people sex without going to the profile.

What are we, a supermarket for perverts? If they consider reading people's profile a waste of time, upon what do they want to make an interaction to rely?!

I am also definitely curious to see the darker skin, I use the blue and winter ones as blue is relaxing, but a darker one would be Amazing

Also greatly agree with your opinion about the dislike button

 

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

[Alfresco 11,630]

I think Peefans is a brilliant community and as with most things it is very much the case that each member will get back proportionately to what they put in - i.e. for the best experience, be a regular contributor.   It is great to see that most of the feedback has been positive and that some good ideas have been put forward.   Without a doubt though, a very big thank you is due to you, @Admin for keeping the site running and always aiming to move it forward.

I think your responses given above show that you are taking the input very seriously and that you have clearly identified where things are already good and the old motto of "leave well alone" should be applied, but where new ideas are relevant and feasible you are willing to work on applying them.   Thank you once again.

And of course.....  Thank you to each and every contributor that makes the site what it is.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Alfresco
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[spywareonya 37,961]

12 minutes ago, Alfresco said:

taking the input very seriously

 

13 minutes ago, Alfresco said:

always aiming to move it forward

 

13 minutes ago, Alfresco said:

"leave well alone"

 

This is Admin, quite put.

And let's not forget to highlight his diplomacy which comes not from hypocrisy but from lack of drive toward bully aggressiveness

Very few humans are so transparent

[steve25805 126,015]

6 hours ago, spywareonya said:

Also greatly agree with your opinion about the dislike button

Me too.

In the early days, we had negative icons in our armoury, including one for "disagree" and another for "dislike". A small number of members used them incessantly to express disapproval of anything they didn't like, which utterly undermined our friendly and welcoming ethos. This was particularly so when "dislike" icons were applied to the first posts of new members, as sometimes occurred. And they also proved at times to be a gift to trolls. 

I campaigned to have all negative icons done away with and think I persuaded the Businessman Admin who was in charge for a while, who if I recall correctly made that so.

[spywareonya 37,961]

12 minutes ago, steve25805 said:

Me too.

In the early days, we had negative icons in our armoury, including one for "disagree" and another for "dislike". A small number of members used them incessantly to express disapproval of anything they didn't like, which utterly undermined our friendly and welcoming ethos. This was particularly so when "dislike" icons were applied to the first posts of new members, as sometimes occurred. And they also proved at times to be a gift to trolls. 

I campaigned to have all negative icons done away with and think I persuaded the Businessman Admin who was in charge for a while, who if I recall correctly made that so.

Absolutely agree and endorse

[nopjans 1,178]

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Also greatly agree with your opinion about the dislike button

Indeed, there are plenty of posts here that I do necessarily care for, or that are of little interest to me. And that's fine because not everything has to be for me! The things I like certainly are not for everyone.If I see something I don't like, and it isn't actively harming anyone, I simply move on.

[mickymoist 3,513]

@Admin Agree with everything you've posted there, and those posted above, that's a really good piece of work. Thanks for everything you do to make this site a friendly and fun place  to spend time, it's very much appreciated 🤗

[Sophie 24,410]

Some really interesting survey results here, thank you for sharing!

and of course, a big thank you to everyone who participated.

[gldenwetgoose 21,487]

I seem to have missed voting on the survey, but very encouraging to see the results - I'm definitely in the 'love it' camp.   Sure there are things that appeal less and others more, but it's not in my nature to whinge and expect the world to change to suit me.

Keep up the good works team - and keep contributing everyone else!

[F.W 5,734]

I do feel however there really ought to be a way of showing some kind of disapproval of what you may feel goes beyond what is acceptable,even on a site like this.There was a time when some drawings began to appear,as like cartoony,but which to my mind featured girls that would be some years below any legal age,blatantly below maybe even 14.Which is still way out of order.Maybe sometimes it can be hard to tell the age of a "model",but a drawing can leave no doubt.These were drawings but i thought they could lead to legal issues and i felt they were just wrong.There should be a "disapprove" icon...

[Riley 13,064]

45 minutes ago, F.W said:

I do feel however there really ought to be a way of showing some kind of disapproval of what you may feel goes beyond what is acceptable,even on a site like this.There was a time when some drawings began to appear,as like cartoony,but which to my mind featured girls that would be some years below any legal age,blatantly below maybe even 14.Which is still way out of order.Maybe sometimes it can be hard to tell the age of a "model",but a drawing can leave no doubt.These were drawings but i thought they could lead to legal issues and i felt they were just wrong.There should be a "disapprove" icon...

That is actually a perfect example of when to use the report feature on a post. The dislike function is just too easily abused and leads to a non friendly atmosphere in the community. People can still disagree and the report feature is great for extreme examples such as this. For minor things, either ignore them, or talk about them, like I am doing right now. 

Thank you! 

[Sophie 24,410]

Yes, please feel free to use the report feature even for minor things. All staff get a notification to review the post.