Site Question / Help Worrying new censorship.

[CON2H4 647]

I want the world to return to talking to each other. Not like the kids on their phones now.

Feel lonely sometimes.

[spywareonya 37,961]

3 hours ago, CON2H4 said:

I want the world to return to talking to each other. Not like the kids on their phones now.

Feel lonely sometimes.

Beside being careful about offtopics, this last thing you said is not only embrassingly true, but touchs many of us in a deep and angry way

I wrote a thread about it, and also Fanny Watcher and Speedy wrote extensively about it

I agree with you more than you could imagine

 

In my opinion,

3 hours ago, CON2H4 said:

the world to return to talking to each other

is the key to a different World Economy and psychological mindset that would destroy ANY kind of discrimination and war around the world

 

You summed up tens of pages by many people

 

I am also personally experiencing this

3 hours ago, CON2H4 said:

Feel lonely sometimes

and am angry as fuck about it, as you know since you saw my recent thread

 

 

 

About censorship, I think we will simply all get a VPN

 

Beat me up for what I am gonna say if you want, but I feel like being embarassingly sincere in these days, and I am absolutely convinced this forum relies mainly on a 40-50 members among the 22,000 thousands it got, and 99% of posts are from these, and I would bet my reproductive organs that they would all be more than willing to get a VPN to keep on coming here

 

My only fear is that without refresh from newbies, all the cheerfulness could be lost… I mean… we of the Old Guard already know each other every secret… the happiness of the forum lies in the marvel of new things this way coming

[likesToLick 10,216]

3 hours ago, spywareonya said:

99% of posts are from these, and I would bet my reproductive organs that they would all be more than willing to get a VPN to keep on coming here

I have a VPN already.  It gives useful protection for many other things,  for example accessing your bank account via hotel internet,  or reading your mail in an internet cafe.   It costs less than one pound per week.

[CON2H4 647]

I too have a vpn. Hence why I see Lidl ads in Italian. 

It's funny to see the servers this website thinks I'm on. 

Non sono in Milan

[2prnot2p 1,071]

 

[Riley 13,059]

On 4/17/2019 at 10:41 AM, steve25805 said:

This is worrying. Our access to pee porn could potentially be severely curtailed.

It could even affect peefans itself directly. Couldn't it?....

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/uk-porn-ban-july-deadline-when-date-online-websites-adult-age-verification-a8874181.html

It's starting to happen in only three months time.

Just use a vpn until it goes away. I mean it cant last forever right? 

[2prnot2p 1,071]

14 hours ago, Riley said:

Just use a vpn until it goes away. I mean it cant last forever right? 

You clearly do not understand the ban.  A VPN or proxy server can be denied by ISP's or websites.

Edited April 30, 2019 by 2prnot2p

[Riley 13,059]

41 minutes ago, 2prnot2p said:

You clearly do not understand the ban, @Riley.  Did you even read the messages in this thread at all?  I think not.  Go away?  Huh?  Can't last forever?  What planet are you from?

A VPN or proxy server can be denied by ISP's or websites, despite what the video above says.  Yes, they can.

Sorry I didn't do a thorough read of the posts and just kind of posted. Let me explain myself. I promise I didn't mean any harm.

 

No ban or law can last forever when it takes away a people's freedom. Human nature does often permit punishment for unjust actions due to our desire to fit into the social norms but we as a species also have a drive to fight for what's right. Someone earlier made a comment about how slaves never rebelled against their masters and that's just not true. The Haitian revolution in the 19th century is a perfect example of this social phenomenon. The spaces of haiti fought back against their European owners and drove them out of their country. 

Slavery isn't the only example however. People throughout history have always responded to increased government control. The Chinese dynasties all the way until the 19th century all Rose and fell to government control. The French revolution was caused by government control. If just a porn ban gets put in place, than we can all use vpn's. If ISP's begin to block vpn's than that becomes a predicament of human rights and freedoms on the internet rather than porn. People will stand up for issues such as that one. Look how big net neutrality got in the U.S even when they had no plans about what they were going to do when they abolished it. 

People never respond to freedoms being taken away from them lightly. It just takes one person to do something and soon everyone rises up to support them. 

Even if there isn't a protest the law won't last forever. Once you give this much power to isp's they will take power away from the government and then no one will like them. Also Teresa May might be voted out and the new prime minister and the new PM can change the laws for the better. 

We live in a day and age where a world of information is at our fingertips. Information spreads to every corner of the planet seamlessly and instantly. People will rise up if that is taken away from them. 

As to what @F.W said about cell phones earlier. For me personally my parents gave me a flip phone and told me if I wanted anything more I could spend my own money. I ended up buying a smartphone quite a while later and a new age of information opened up to me. Now whenever I saw something I was curious about, Google would answer me and tell me about it. 

[steve25805 125,663]

1 hour ago, 2prnot2p said:

You clearly do not understand the ban, @Riley.  Did you even read the messages in this thread at all?  I think not.  Go away?  Huh?  Can't last forever?  What planet are you from?

A VPN or proxy server can be denied by ISP's or websites, despite what the video above says.  Yes, they can.

I know you mean well, @2prnot2p, but using such terms as "what planet are you on" and sarcastically questioning whether someone has read anything does come across as unnecessarily aggressive. There are nicer ways of saying the same things. I am having to say this because someone - not Riley - thought so too and reported it to the mods.

Could you please try and be just a little less aggressive in your response even if you personally feel a particular post or argument is silly? To do otherwise goes against the grain of our overall friendly vibe here.

[steve25805 125,663]

Another worrying factor in the UK's march to a Big Brother society. 

Our police will no longer investigate crimes against people unless the victims hand over all their social media devices for scrutiny. WTAF?

[Admin 14,773]

Just want to provide some further clarification, as I believe we have all got a little carried away, and I now have more information on what is happening. 

If you are not in the UK, you are not affected.

If you are in the UK and use a VPN that can change your location to another country, you are not affected.

If you are in the UK, you will be able to get a ONE TIME code from thousands of shops across the country. After entering this code, you will have access to all main porn sites, including peefans (and pornhub), with no need to ever enter another code. Your personal details will not be stored in any sort of database. This change will not mean that the government has any more access to your data than before. 

Personally, I think this system will work well and cause minimal disruption. I foresee no real issues.

If you are in the UK and still worried though, VPNs are cheap. 

[spywareonya 37,961]

2 hours ago, Admin said:

Just want to provide some further clarification, as I believe we have all got a little carried away, and I now have more information on what is happening. 

If you are not in the UK, you are not affected.

If you are in the UK and use a VPN that can change your location to another country, you are not affected.

If you are in the UK, you will be able to get a ONE TIME code from thousands of shops across the country. After entering this code, you will have access to all main porn sites, including peefans (and pornhub), with no need to ever enter another code. Your personal details will not be stored in any sort of database. This change will not mean that the government has any more access to your data than before. 

Personally, I think this system will work well and cause minimal disruption. I foresee no real issues.

If you are in the UK and still worried though, VPNs are cheap. 

I still do not trust limitations to personal freedom as they are not a fitting cure for a social problem, uh, but this seems less awful than we feared

[Sophie 24,364]

3 hours ago, Admin said:

If you are in the UK, you will be able to get a ONE TIME code from thousands of shops across the country.

I refuse to do this out of principal. I'm not embarrassed. I'll happily walk in and out of a sex shop, bag in hand. I'll tell the world i watch porn. It doesn't bother me.

If I remember correctly, these passes cost £5. I don't want to pay just to visit a website that i would normally be able to visit for free.
These passes are ran by Mindgeek. You know what else is ran by Mindgeek? Some of the largest porn websites. It's just a company asking for cash.
I'm a grown adult, I shouldn't have to buy a pass to watch something I'm legally allowed to just because Karen is unable to control what her snotty little kid does on the computer.

It's the same old story, everything turns to shit and it all boils down to bad parenting.

[Admin 14,773]

6 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I refuse to do this out of principal. I'm not embarrassed. I'll happily walk in and out of a sex shop, bag in hand. I'll tell the world i watch porn. It doesn't bother me.

If I remember correctly, these passes cost £5. I don't want to pay just to visit a website that i would normally be able to visit for free.
These passes are ran by Mindgeek. You know what else is ran by Mindgeek? Some of the largest porn websites. It's just a company asking for cash.
I'm a grown adult, I shouldn't have to buy a pass to watch something I'm legally allowed to just because Karen is unable to control what her snotty little kid does on the computer.

It's the same old story, everything turns to shit and it all boils down to bad parenting.

Yes, just to be clear, I am still completely against this new policy and if it weren't putting the site at serious risk, I would not be implementing anything. 

It absolutely won't stop teenagers accessing porn, and it is completely ridiculous that the company behind this new system is run by some of the largest porn sites.

BUT I just wanted to reassure people who were concerned about not being able to access the site or having sensitive data potentially leaked.

From what I understand, you'll also be able to verify online without paying anything, by entering your credit card... as far as I know you won't be charged this way., it will just verify with your bank you're over 18.

I only mentioned the shop passes because that seemed like the best anonymous route for those with privacy worries.

But yes, 100% the onus should be on the parents. I am still against everything about this new system, I am just glad it is not as bad as we first thought it might be. But it does suck. 

[spywareonya 37,961]

33 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I refuse to do this out of principal. I'm not embarrassed. I'll happily walk in and out of a sex shop, bag in hand. I'll tell the world i watch porn. It doesn't bother me.

If I remember correctly, these passes cost £5. I don't want to pay just to visit a website that i would normally be able to visit for free.
These passes are ran by Mindgeek. You know what else is ran by Mindgeek? Some of the largest porn websites. It's just a company asking for cash.
I'm a grown adult, I shouldn't have to buy a pass to watch something I'm legally allowed to just because Karen is unable to control what her snotty little kid does on the computer.

It's the same old story, everything turns to shit and it all boils down to bad parenting.

Ok now I love you

I could be in awe and worship of you forever after reading this

[spywareonya 37,961]

20 minutes ago, Admin said:

But yes, 100% the onus should be on the parents. I am still against everything about this new system, I am just glad it is not as bad as we first thought it might be. But it does suck. 

I understand how you feel, you can guess

Limitations are fitting, we don't kill for fun and we don't torture people and we don't steal things (or we should just not tell if we do hhahahhahahahaha) but some other limitations are not positive nor useful

This one is not good

 

I don't even think is up to bad parenting, porn is normal since you start to have hormons

This law is only aggressive against people

[Scot_Lover 1,875]

25 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I refuse to do this out of principal. I'm not embarrassed. I'll happily walk in and out of a sex shop, bag in hand. I'll tell the world i watch porn. It doesn't bother me.

Way to go, Sophie .....

27 minutes ago, Sophie said:

If I remember correctly, these passes cost £5. I don't want to pay just to visit a website that i would normally be able to visit for free.
These passes are ran by Mindgeek. You know what else is ran by Mindgeek? Some of the largest porn websites. It's just a company asking for cash.

Is Mindgeek in cahoots with the government? I wouldn't be surprised if Mindgeek were paying the government for this service, if the government couldn't make money off of porn, then get someone to make the money for us. Are these 'passes' available now? I'm like you, the principle of the thing, it sux. I could have 4 beers at our local for $10

32 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I'm a grown adult, I shouldn't have to buy a pass to watch something I'm legally allowed to just because Karen is unable to control what her snotty little kid does on the computer.

It's the same old story, everything turns to shit and it all boils down to bad parenting.

This is gold, and it's exactly what's wrong with the current generation, GEN XYZ or whatever they call themselves, I've never been around such a group of people that bitch and moan about the state of everything, then go and have a Beetroot latte.

[spywareonya 37,961]

18 minutes ago, Scot_Lover said:

This is gold, and it's exactly what's wrong with the current generation, GEN XYZ or whatever they call themselves, I've never been around such a group of people that bitch and moan about the state of everything, then go and have a Beetroot latte

I want to go even beyond

I want to state that watching porn should be considered normal since you got the age to reproduce, and related hormons

[likesToLick 10,216]

19 hours ago, Riley said:

Look how big net neutrality got in the U.S even when they had no plans about what they were going to do when they abolished it. 

Did it get big really?   When Americans lost the freedom that net neutrality was giving them it seems like there was barely a whimper.  As far as I know they never got net neutrality restored to them.  Am I wrong?

[likesToLick 10,216]

2 hours ago, Sophie said:

I shouldn't have to buy a pass to watch something I'm legally allowed to just because Karen is unable to control what her snotty little kid does on the computer.

You are absolutely right Sophie,  you should not have to buy it.

Please be aware though, that "think of the children" is just an excuse.  The real agenda of the bigoted pressure groups who lobby for these types of laws is to stop everyone, adults included, from viewing any kind of erotic art.   They will not give up after this victory.  They are already planning the next one.

I'm not sure that boycotting the "adult id" system is your best move politically.   If ten million people in the UK all bought these ID numbers,  it might send a message to the parliament that there is a large block of voters who like erotic web sites.   When the next attack on your rights happens,  they might then think twice about restricting your choices.  If everyone who did it also wrote to their MP to complain,  and asked him to refund their five pounds,  it might work even better.  Nothing frightens the crap out of an MP as much as a large crowd of annoyed constituents.

I'm probably being unrealistic to expect people to become politically aware and active in such a way,  but if it could happen it would make a big difference.

 

[Riley 13,059]

3 hours ago, likesToLick said:

Did it get big really?   When Americans lost the freedom that net neutrality was giving them it seems like there was barely a whimper.  As far as I know they never got net neutrality restored to them.  Am I wrong?

In my area it was all people talked about for a few months. It got huge. The only reason people ever quieted down is because several states past laws overruling the national government's law and reinstating net neutrality in several states. Also a few weeks ago the house proposed a bill to reinstate net neutrality rules so🤷‍♀️

[F.W 5,726]

WELL SAID SOPHIE!

Bad parenting!Everything is down to bad parenting.Ban this,ban that,regulate this,regulate that.

Its all down to the fact that parents buy their kids these expensive phones in order to babysit them.

[likesToLick 10,216]

9 hours ago, Riley said:

several states past laws overruling the national government's law and reinstating net neutrality in several states. Also a few weeks ago the house proposed a bill to reinstate net neutrality rules so🤷‍♀️

That's good news and I'm very pleased to hear it.  Thanks for bringing me up to date.

[CON2H4 647]

On 5/1/2019 at 2:26 PM, owlman76 said:

Over here in the UK, we are even having kids starting school that are not toilet trained, one school has had to employ a person to change nappies, and to clean up kids who have messed themselves at school, it's pathetic and disgusting, any child, unless they have some form of disability should be toilet trained by the time they start school at 4 or 5 years of age. Imagine the amount of abuse a kid is going to get off the other kids when it goes to the toilet in it's clothing,

Over the Easter weekend I was looking out of my window when 2 young girls walked past, I'd say they were around 7 or 8 years old, both were wearing T shirts and leggings, one had a floral print pair and the other a black pair. It was clear as they walked past that the kid wearing the floral ones had clearly been to the toilet in them, a large bulge and a brown stain, she walked down the road as though it was perfectly normal, she hadn't even tried to hide it with her T shirt.

I doubt it. 😕

Either way the fact that you acknowledge that disabilities exist kind of undermines your point here. Especially when you consider that these kinds of disabilities are invisible. 

I wasn't toilet trained when I started school. I'm glad I didn't have to put up with the bullying. As far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be any; there needs to be less stigma around incontinence.

[Guest UnabashedUser]

On 4/17/2019 at 11:09 AM, Admin said:

I can see the intention, but I fail to see how this will work in practice. Having a database of everyone who accesses porn doesn't sound great either. 

I think it's much more designed for the large tube sites, but technically PeeFans would be included, so I'll do some research and see how we can ensure there are no issues.

@will64makes a good point though - government rules are making VPNs increasingly appealing. 

Upgrade to Opera browser (they make an android version too). One of their plugins is a FREE Vpn.