When naughty peeing continued into adulthood?

[Takashi96 1,079]

Many of us here who engage in the habit of "naughty peeing" first began the practice as children. In fact, that's probably the case more often than not. Correct? No? Did any of you have a moment of clarity, when you were old enough to realize what you were doing was a kink? And that you were probably going to keep doing it. And how did that make you feel? 

[Takashi96 1,079]

1 hour ago, MonsterKane46 said:

yeah...  when I was just becoming a teenager and went to a water park with friends and just pissed in my swimming shorts the whole day wether I was swimming at the time or not

I'm not into wetting. But that's totally what I'm talking about.

[gldenwetgoose 21,500]

It's a really interesting topic, and one I was actually thinking about yesterday that with a suitable body of research (interviews with a wide cross section of people) which could make a really good thesis for someone.

Firstly is the thought of where 'naughtiness' starts...    I mean as babies we have no bladder control, we generally then go through the period of toilet training where are praised and encouraged for only peeing in the potty or toilet.  From that point we become conditioned that is the normal place to dispose of our wee.  Perhaps some parents more than others will introduce the concept of pee being dirty but at that young age we don't really know good or bad, or naughty behaviour.

As we get very slightly older many small children (as many members here have reported) will find themselves caught short and being assisted to pee somewhere other than a toilet, still under the guidance of parents or those looking after us.

Now I guess it is not too much later, but still as very small children that a couple of things happen - we may begin to be aware of the concept of naughtiness related to pee.  So for example as a tiny child if I pee'd on the bedroom carpet rather than the toilet in the next room, my parents may overlook it as lack of realising I need to go - but if I make a habit of it, then it is likely they will explain that I should be using the toilet and not my floor because that is naughty.  The other thing that may begin to happen is that small child becomes slightly more aware of their peers and starts to understand they may have different ways of doing things.

And that very small child gets a little more freedom - time to play alongside other children with less direct supervision from their parents.  There is still the childhood innocence, so perhaps whilst out playing is the first time we realise that girls and boys are different and therefore pee in different ways.  At that point there's of course nothing sexual, but there may be the seed of fascination.  And perhaps at that point the parents begin to emphasise that playing doctors and nurses, examining the other gender peeing and so on is naughty.   Perhaps more with some children than others, but word spreads and taboo begins.

Now all through this point childhood innocence reigns over all - but a time will come where the understanding of 'private parts' forms, and that there are ill intended people out there.  Education brings that understanding and not too much later, puberty and sexual awareness comes along.  That brings with it a whole new thought process around naughtiness.

I'm going to speculate that for a lot of people (especially those who have to remove lots of clothing to pee) that this development would lead to a whole change in attitude towards peeing.  Openly peeing when out playing in the park with a group of friends would turn into waiting until desperate and going home to self consciously lock the bathroom door.  In an emergency maybe in the bushes or the side of the road on a car trip - but certainly not in open view. Certainly not letting others know.  And at the same time, that young adult phase, plain vanilla missionary sex would perhaps be the naughtiest imaginable thing?

I'm generalising of course - everyone is different and has different experiences.

 

With the arrival of adulthood, I guess many people will have completely disassociated any of their peeing memories.  For many people peeing is the bodily function and nothing more.  An inconvenience sometimes, but never anything they dwell upon.

Other people though may find themselves drawn back to formative experiences.  Some may go through trauma and long back to the love and care they received when young, some may witness an adult peeing experience and remember their childhood experiences - all manner of reasons.  Some maybe can't definitively put any finger on it, but know they are hooked.

And for others I guess there is no direct link to childhood - other than the ingrained concept of what is 'naughty'.

 

I sort of have in mind a chart which would have age running across the bottom X axis.   Then on the chart would be a set of bars running left to right, formed by the numbers of people who partook in 'naughty peeing' as children, but then tailed off later, and those who later realised the joy of peeing, maybe in a non-sexual comforting way (because don't forget it's not all sexual).  Some bars may start as children with a concept of naughtiness and continue to today.  Many may start as children but tail off around the consciousness of sexual development.   Others may even only start in adult life...?

[Remi 1,034]

I think that 'peeing anywhere else than where you are supposed to = naughty' manifested itself during a certain memory at a very young age. And at around 12-13 i started off with secretly peeing in basement rooms and cabins in an apartment building. I liked the thrill and the arousal that came with this kind of naughty behaviour so it was clear that it was more than just a little fun. But back than i didn't know about kinks etc...it didn't even cross my mind that others could feel the same about this like friends that were peeing outside or other places. To me i was just weird and not normal. It was a flaw. That didn't change until a few years later when i started to slowly understand the concept of kinks. And sometime later thanks to using certain search words on the net 'out of curiosity' i even got the idea that i was not alone with this though i was still thinking i am strange for liking this.

How did i feel about this? The same way i feel about it now. Love and hate relationship. Sometimes embarassed of myself, ashamed. It was just a bit more careless back then. My wish of not having this may have not been as strong as it is now sometimes. But there were definitely some moments where i had the wish to stop. I remember one time i was thinking to myself "ok dude, you are soon to be 14. Thats like...almost grown up. I gotta stop with this stuff and this silly masturbating and all. Just this month and than its over. You gotta grow up" and as that failed just as i was somehow expecting it deep down in my mind "Hmm ok but when i'm 14 i'll definitely stop." And so on. Just this one more time. After all it never really worked out for a long time.

Edited August 2, 2022 by Remi

[oliver2 4,422]

For me it was more like “Why the hell is this fascinating to me? What does it mean?” If I’d heard of anything kinky it would’ve been at best something about golden showers, or “women peeing in each others’ mouths” as an example of “extreme”/gross porn being talked about. 

I don’t think it would have occurred to me to treat watching people pee/letting someone watch you pee as a kink when I was younger.

(I’m showing my age here, growing up in the dark age before widely available internet)

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by oliver2

[Sexismygod 1,782]

I started very young then went through a lull until my late teens.  Somewhere in that time period I realised that peeing in strange places was exciting ... and I've never looked back.  That's not to say it's been a continuous activity, just that once I found it exciting, I always found it exciting.

I don't know exactly when or why I first realised the connection between naughty peeing and sexual excitement, but it was definitely in my teens.  I discovered masturbation several years earlier so obviously recognised the stiffness and tingly sensation, and it went on from there.

Regarding the original question:  Realisation that this behaviour was a "kink" came much later and was more "huh, yeah, I guess it is".  I knew it was a bit perverse but didn't think of it as a fetish.  Just something naughty that I enjoyed. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Sexismygod

[steve25805 126,156]

1 hour ago, Sexismygod said:

I started very young then went through a lull until my late teens.  Somewhere in that time period I realised that peeing in strange places was exciting ... and I've never looked back.  That's not to say it's been a continuous activity, just that once I found it exciting, I always found it exciting.

I don't know exactly when or why I first realised the connection between naughty peeing and sexual excitement, but it was definitely in my teens.  I discovered masturbation several years earlier so obviously recognised the stiffness and tingly sensation, and it went on from there.

Regarding the original question:  Realisation that this behaviour was a "kink" came much later and was more "huh, yeah, I guess it is".  I knew it was a bit perverse but didn't think of it as a fetish.  Just something naughty that I enjoyed. 

I had an interest in naughty peeing long before I knew it was anything sexual. The pleasure I got from it was sexual of course but I had no understanding of sex or sexuality so didn't realise it was sexual because I didn't know what sexual was. All I knew was that I enjoyed doing it in ways I could never have understood or explained. It was only later when I learned about sex that I realised my peeing interest was sexual. That came with the realisation that most people seemed to think anyone with such an interest was a pervert, which caused me to feel shame at my fetish for a long time. It was all such innocent fun before sexual awareness complicated matters.

In my case this interest has never left me - I wouldn't be on this forum if it had. I do know that I was interested - when still too young to understand why - when it came out that my sister had gotten into the habit of peeing on her bedroom carpet. A definite fellow naughty pisser. I could tell she enjoyed it by the big grin on her face as she peed on my bedroom carpet at my invitation. Suffice it to say at once we were both too young to understand the nature of sexual interest, otherwise it would have felt wrong. Once I became sexually aware I lost all interest in my sister peeing because it felt wrong then. As for whether her interest in naughty peeing continued into adulthood I don't really know, but quite possibly. I can remember hearing about her and a friend in their teens peeing in a school doorway somewhere on a day when the school was closed, for the viewing pleasure of some young lads who wanted to watch them do it. If she was happy to do that as a sexually aware teenager, I suspect her peeing interest remained with her into adulthood.

[Karuhowashere 66]

I was born in a rural place so it was common for men to pee outside. When we moved to the city me and my brothers still peed outside. This is common in Tokyo but not as common as rural places.

For me peeing outside is not sexual but exciting because it breaks the "rules" of big cities and reminds me of childhood. My girlfriend has a similar thought even though she comes from the city. Its hot to watch her pee and for her to watch me but I wouldnt want her to pee on me or something like that lol.

Reading these messages is interesting, I didnt think people would be into peeing for so different reasons.

[dltq 121]

Oh, I realised it was a kink of mine all the way back when I was in second grade.

[PissDude 479]

I have no idea how I ended up with this kink. I think my dad had unreasonable expectations for how long I should be able to hold it. Combine that with very early experiences with girls who had to relieve themselves. Somehow I came to equate the need to piss with sexuality and become aroused by the thought of a girl needing to relive herself. It is kind of like an orgasm though. It builds and builds and will release no matter what you want. 

[Takashi96 1,079]

18 hours ago, gldenwetgoose said:

It's a really interesting topic, and one I was actually thinking about yesterday that with a suitable body of research (interviews with a wide cross section of people) which could make a really good thesis for someone.

Firstly is the thought of where 'naughtiness' starts...    I mean as babies we have no bladder control, we generally then go through the period of toilet training where are praised and encouraged for only peeing in the potty or toilet.  From that point we become conditioned that is the normal place to dispose of our wee.  Perhaps some parents more than others will introduce the concept of pee being dirty but at that young age we don't really know good or bad, or naughty behaviour.

As we get very slightly older many small children (as many members here have reported) will find themselves caught short and being assisted to pee somewhere other than a toilet, still under the guidance of parents or those looking after us.

Now I guess it is not too much later, but still as very small children that a couple of things happen - we may begin to be aware of the concept of naughtiness related to pee.  So for example as a tiny child if I pee'd on the bedroom carpet rather than the toilet in the next room, my parents may overlook it as lack of realising I need to go - but if I make a habit of it, then it is likely they will explain that I should be using the toilet and not my floor because that is naughty.  The other thing that may begin to happen is that small child becomes slightly more aware of their peers and starts to understand they may have different ways of doing things.

And that very small child gets a little more freedom - time to play alongside other children with less direct supervision from their parents.  There is still the childhood innocence, so perhaps whilst out playing is the first time we realise that girls and boys are different and therefore pee in different ways.  At that point there's of course nothing sexual, but there may be the seed of fascination.  And perhaps at that point the parents begin to emphasise that playing doctors and nurses, examining the other gender peeing and so on is naughty.   Perhaps more with some children than others, but word spreads and taboo begins.

Now all through this point childhood innocence reigns over all - but a time will come where the understanding of 'private parts' forms, and that there are ill intended people out there.  Education brings that understanding and not too much later, puberty and sexual awareness comes along.  That brings with it a whole new thought process around naughtiness.

I'm going to speculate that for a lot of people (especially those who have to remove lots of clothing to pee) that this development would lead to a whole change in attitude towards peeing.  Openly peeing when out playing in the park with a group of friends would turn into waiting until desperate and going home to self consciously lock the bathroom door.  In an emergency maybe in the bushes or the side of the road on a car trip - but certainly not in open view. Certainly not letting others know.  And at the same time, that young adult phase, plain vanilla missionary sex would perhaps be the naughtiest imaginable thing?

I'm generalising of course - everyone is different and has different experiences.

 

With the arrival of adulthood, I guess many people will have completely disassociated any of their peeing memories.  For many people peeing is the bodily function and nothing more.  An inconvenience sometimes, but never anything they dwell upon.

Other people though may find themselves drawn back to formative experiences.  Some may go through trauma and long back to the love and care they received when young, some may witness an adult peeing experience and remember their childhood experiences - all manner of reasons.  Some maybe can't definitively put any finger on it, but know they are hooked.

And for others I guess there is no direct link to childhood - other than the ingrained concept of what is 'naughty'.

 

I sort of have in mind a chart which would have age running across the bottom X axis.   Then on the chart would be a set of bars running left to right, formed by the numbers of people who partook in 'naughty peeing' as children, but then tailed off later, and those who later realised the joy of peeing, maybe in a non-sexual comforting way (because don't forget it's not all sexual).  Some bars may start as children with a concept of naughtiness and continue to today.  Many may start as children but tail off around the consciousness of sexual development.   Others may even only start in adult life...?

Thank you! I love how insightful you are. You really put a lot of thought into your observations.

[Takashi96 1,079]

15 hours ago, Remi said:

I think that 'peeing anywhere else than where you are supposed to = naughty' manifested itself during a certain memory at a very young age. And at around 12-13 i started off with secretly peeing in basement rooms and cabins in an apartment building. I liked the thrill and the arousal that came with this kind of naughty behaviour so it was clear that it was more than just a little fun. But back than i didn't know about kinks etc...it didn't even cross my mind that others could feel the same about this like friends that were peeing outside or other places. To me i was just weird and not normal. It was a flaw. That didn't change until a few years later when i started to slowly understand the concept of kinks. And sometime later thanks to using certain search words on the net 'out of curiosity' i even got the idea that i was not alone with this though i was still thinking i am strange for liking this.

How did i feel about this? The same way i feel about it now. Love and hate relationship. Sometimes embarassed of myself, ashamed. It was just a bit more careless back then. My wish of not having this may have not been as strong as it is now sometimes. But there were definitely some moments where i had the wish to stop. I remember one time i was thinking to myself "ok dude, you are soon to be 14. Thats like...almost grown up. I gotta stop with this stuff and this silly masturbating and all. Just this month and than its over. You gotta grow up" and as that failed just as i was somehow expecting it deep down in my mind "Hmm ok but when i'm 14 i'll definitely stop." And so on. Just this one more time. After all it never really worked out for a long time.

Oh my god, welcome to my world! I think I was about 16 when I had the thought "it'll probably be over by 20...22 at the latest. There's no way in hell I'll still be like this at 24! 24? No way. Impossible." I think about that memory everytime I'm on one of my guilt trips. Especially when those birthdays rolled around. 

[Takashi96 1,079]

14 hours ago, oliver2 said:

For me it was more like “Why the hell is this fascinating to me? What does it mean?” If I’d heard of anything kinky it would’ve been at best something about golden showers, or “women peeing in each others’ mouths” as an example of “extreme”/gross porn being talked about. 

I don’t think it would have occurred to me to treat watching people pee/letting someone watch you pee as a kink when I was younger.

(I’m showing my age here, growing up in the dark age before widely available internet)

 

The internet is a crystal clear line of demarcation with this topic. I didn't get a computer or internet service until I was an adult. I remember hearing about it from kids at school. But it was something low income kids had no access to at the time. 

[Takashi96 1,079]

15 hours ago, Sexismygod said:

I started very young then went through a lull until my late teens.  Somewhere in that time period I realised that peeing in strange places was exciting ... and I've never looked back.  That's not to say it's been a continuous activity, just that once I found it exciting, I always found it exciting.

I don't know exactly when or why I first realised the connection between naughty peeing and sexual excitement, but it was definitely in my teens.  I discovered masturbation several years earlier so obviously recognised the stiffness and tingly sensation, and it went on from there.

Regarding the original question:  Realisation that this behaviour was a "kink" came much later and was more "huh, yeah, I guess it is".  I knew it was a bit perverse but didn't think of it as a fetish.  Just something naughty that I enjoyed. 

It's a weird transition. Your brain isn't fully developed until 25 or 26. Your teens are when you start to become self aware. But my self awareness was way late. I remember at 16 I started pissing in a plant in my house. It turned me on but I still didn't understand it was a kink. I was by myself, I wasn't cumming, I wasn't hard. I wasn't thinking about a girl. How could it be sexual? But I couldn't understand why I was doing it?

[gldenwetgoose 21,500]

3 minutes ago, Takashi96 said:

It's a weird transition. Your brain isn't fully developed until 25 or 26. Your teens are when you start to become self aware. But my self awareness was way late. I remember at 16 I started pissing in a plant in my house. It turned me on but I still didn't understand it was a kink. I was by myself, I wasn't cumming, I wasn't hard. I wasn't thinking about a girl. How could it be sexual? But I couldn't understand why I was doing it?

One of the fascinating things about this site for me - we're all here because we're Pee Fans - and that isn't the same as sexual pee fetishists.   A huge number of people are here because pee is a very sexual activity to them and they are hugely aroused at the thought of others and/or themselves in peeing activities.  But there is also a big part of membership who just enjoy peeing for all sorts of reasons without any association with sexual arousal.  Maybe for some it reminds of happy childhood times, or a million other possible reasons.

It's fascinating but can also be frustrating when the sexually focussed start to assume (for example) that anybody of the opposite gender sharing a personal love of peeing must be doing it for their arousal.  You can see the potential awkwardness in that lol.

[gldenwetgoose 21,500]

1 hour ago, Takashi96 said:

Thank you! I love how insightful you are. You really put a lot of thought into your observations.

You are far too kind.  🤩

[Takashi96 1,079]

11 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

One of the fascinating things about this site for me - we're all here because we're Pee Fans - and that isn't the same as sexual pee fetishists.   A huge number of people are here because pee is a very sexual activity to them and they are hugely aroused at the thought of others and/or themselves in peeing activities.  But there is also a big part of membership who just enjoy peeing for all sorts of reasons without any association with sexual arousal.  Maybe for some it reminds of happy childhood times, or a million other possible reasons.

It's fascinating but can also be frustrating when the sexually focussed start to assume (for example) that anybody of the opposite gender sharing a personal love of peeing must be doing it for their arousal.  You can see the potential awkwardness in that lol.

I confess I don't understand how someone could seek out this site if there wasn't at least a hint of sublevel arousal. I know a number of people who really enjoy peeing outside. But I can't imagine them being comfortable here. Well, maybe 2 or 3? I've never inquired if any of them have a kink or a fetish. However, those 2 or 3, I strongly suspect do.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Takashi96
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[janny-ammerson 66]

I enjoy piss play of all types but once I peed accidentally and was embarrassed. I had an appointment for my usual session at the chiropractor I always go in a polo shirt loose shorts no underware. This time a beautiful tall blonde technician got me on the table slid the cushions under me pulled up my shirt and pulled my shorts down past my ass cheeks then attached 10 sensors from middle of my back down to just under my ass cheeks to help ease some painful lower back pain . She would dial in the settings and when she did this at a high level I pissed uncontrollably and found myself in a puddle. Very very embarrassing

[Kupar 13,341]

4 minutes ago, Takashi96 said:

I confess I don't understand how someone could seek out this site if there wasn't at least a hint of sublevel arousal. I know a number of people who really enjoy peeing outside. But I can't imagine them being comfortable here. Well, maybe 2 or 3? I've never inquired if any of them have a kink or a fetish. However, those 2 or 3, I strongly suspect do.

Maybe worth considering a spectrum from the "pee is an intrinsic part of sex and vice versa - it's a genuine fetish" on the one end and "I love the feeling of peeing freely / wetting my clothes, but ewww, sex? No thanks" on the other?

[oliver2 4,422]

1 minute ago, Kupar said:

“…ewww, sex? No thanks"

I’ll make some tea, then (puts clothes back on, picks up teapot)

[Takashi96 1,079]

4 minutes ago, janny-ammerson said:

I enjoy piss play of all types but once I peed accidentally and was embarrassed. I had an appointment for my usual session at the chiropractor I always go in a polo shirt loose shorts no underware. This time a beautiful tall blonde technician got me on the table slid the cushions under me pulled up my shirt and pulled my shorts down past my ass cheeks then attached 10 sensors from middle of my back down to just under my ass cheeks to help ease some painful lower back pain . She would dial in the settings and when she did this at a high level I pissed uncontrollably and found myself in a puddle. Very very embarrassing

That's awful! Piss kink or not there's nothing fun about your body releasing without your consent. 

[gldenwetgoose 21,500]

6 minutes ago, janny-ammerson said:

I enjoy piss play of all types but once I peed accidentally and was embarrassed. I had an appointment for my usual session at the chiropractor I always go in a polo shirt loose shorts no underware. This time a beautiful tall blonde technician got me on the table slid the cushions under me pulled up my shirt and pulled my shorts down past my ass cheeks then attached 10 sensors from middle of my back down to just under my ass cheeks to help ease some painful lower back pain . She would dial in the settings and when she did this at a high level I pissed uncontrollably and found myself in a puddle. Very very embarrassing

@janny-ammerson - I can completely understand your embarrassment, and bless you.

But - and sorry to draw the conversation a little off topic - what an amazing idea for some amazing pee holding play...  In the right place with the right person of course. With a desperately full bladder and a loving partner in control of the stimulus...    I'll leave it there, but I think that may be a scene that's going to live in my head for a while.

[oliver2 4,422]

32 minutes ago, Takashi96 said:

It's a weird transition. Your brain isn't fully developed until 25 or 26. Your teens are when you start to become self aware. But my self awareness was way late. I remember at 16 I started pissing in a plant in my house. It turned me on but I still didn't understand it was a kink. I was by myself, I wasn't cumming, I wasn't hard. I wasn't thinking about a girl. How could it be sexual? But I couldn't understand why I was doing it?

I found that when masturbating my mind would wander towards me or others peeing in unusual places, so that aspect of it was certainly sexual for me, but the link is… vaguer, like, I won’t necessarily get aroused from having a good relieving piss outdoors. And I find discussion about what’s a taboo and what people do and what they think about it endlessly fascinating. Not that I don’t like seeing a nice close-up view of a girl holding her lips open as she pisses…

[Takashi96 1,079]

5 minutes ago, Kupar said:

Maybe worth considering a spectrum from the "pee is an intrinsic part of sex and vice versa - it's a genuine fetish" on the one end and "I love the feeling of peeing freely / wetting my clothes, but ewww, sex? No thanks" on the other?

I'm voluntarily celibate. And also asexual. But I still find much of this behavior sexual. I suspect we are misaligned in our interpretation of what does and does not constitute sexual expression.

[Takashi96 1,079]

6 minutes ago, oliver2 said:

I found that when masturbating my mind would wander towards me or others peeing in unusual places, so that aspect of it was certainly sexual for me, but the link is… vaguer, like, I won’t necessarily get aroused from having a good relieving piss outdoors. And I find discussion about what’s a taboo and what people do and what they think about it endlessly fascinating. Not that I don’t like seeing a nice close-up view of a girl holding her lips open as she pisses…

Right. I won't get aroused from a good relieving piss outdoors either. But there's always something under the surface. Even if I don't feel it. I know it's there.