Avatars and the controversy around them

[Riley 13,064]

This is both me I guess talking about my point of view on avatars and also apologizing for something I said a while ago. 

Recently I've seen a lot of discussion around avatars and what people want people to have in terms of avatars. A long time ago i did judge someones avatar and im really sorry for that. I tried to find the thread and person to apologize but I couldn't. I sincerely apologize and im really sorry for my mistakes.

My opinion on avatars is that it should be a representation on what you want the world to see. Whether that be an image or gif you like, an avatar that looks kind of like you, like what i have, or even a joke or something. All it is is just an identifier of who you are on the forum as a photo. Personally if you want to have a penis as an avatar, go for it! I see a lot of people with nude female avatars and no one ever comments about them so i think it would be unfair to judge the nude male body with a penis more harshly than the nude female body with a vulva. Having a nude avatar inst really my thing but to the people who do it, go ahead. Your avatar is just a photo marker of whatever you want to show as your profile, so It really shouldn't matter. If you want to make your avatar a bowl of oatmeal, do it! We are a loving and caring community and I would hate for us to get in fights about something as small as what photo someone has on their profile next to their name. In the scheme of world issues, that's not a big one. I hope everyone is having an amazing day and has fun with their avatars 🙂 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Riley

[F.W 5,734]

My view is that for an avatar it should be something humourous or personal,rather than a photo of your own or anyone elses genitals.Its just exposure,i really choose NOT to see another guys dick,at most times,unless I choose to do so.In porn etc.Just my view.

[speedy3471 10,655]

23 minutes ago, Riley said:

All it is is just an identifier of who you are on the forum as a photo. Personally if you want to have a penis as an avatar, go for it! I see a lot of people with nude female avatars and no one ever comments about them so i think it would be unfair to judge the nude male body more harshly than the nude female body. Having a nude avatar inst really my thing but to the people who do it, go ahead. 

I totally agree with you. I don't judge a person by what kind of avatar they use lol, hell i don't judge people for anything

[spywareonya 37,962]

@Riley

I am sure you'll find your way to apologize. As for your idea of Avatar, I agree, absolutely, just like @speedy3471 does, but I think we can NOT ignore @F.W's position, because in my personal opinion… he's dead right

 

We sometimes, not us Peefaners, us humans, forget about the fact that we should craft our course of action according to circumstances, and that sensitivity and politeness must NOT become a snowflake dictatorship

Political correctedness can become a trap

 

Since this forum is mainly populated by heterosexual man, AND the fact (let's STOP ignoring this!!!) that a penis is "aggressive" in its own stance and essence while a pussy is more gentle, mix these two things and you will understand why so many people (me included, regardless I am a huge presence in the Men Peeing Section, I'm married and bisexual but HOLY FUCK I AM A WOMAN AND I GOT A PUSSY) would prefer not to see dicks in people's avatars...

In addition, I also agree with the fact that putting one's genitals in one's avatar is DIFFERENT than showing somebody's random peeing pussy on a pee fetish site, and it's more like a show off that borders vulgarity

I'm neither bothered nor offended, don't misunderstand me, I will never ask somebody to change his avatar and in 2 minutes I will get used to whatever, I just wanna explain my PREFERENCES on a philosophical stance, it does NOT become an exceedingly big problem for me, just thinking aloud

 

The headlong stance Fanny sometimes uses, makes people to forget that he's very often right even when he's a bit too vicious in the way he fights: I, personally, would be puzzled to talk to somebody that uses his own cock as avatar, like he walked up to me along the streets with a mask on his face, a car-sized cock out of his trousers almost covering his body, and the tip of his cock talking like a ventriloquist while he completely hides his face behind that mask

 

We here all have different avatars but I like the reasons why every one of us chose his own: Speedy uses a sentence combined with an image, Riley created a manga version of herself, Fanny chose a toon character whose biting attitude suits his personal mighty and manly ways, I change mine very often in order to wear a new mask which does NOT hide me and instead shows a message I want to deliver

But one's genitals? We're MORE than our sexes, pals

I personally would also invite @steve25805, @Sophie and @Admin to express themselves about this subject, commenting my words

Edited August 20, 2019 by spywareonya

[Riley 13,064]

54 minutes ago, F.W said:

My view is that for an avatar it should be something humourous or personal,rather than a photo of your own or anyone elses genitals.Its just exposure,i really choose NOT to see another guys dick,at most times,unless I choose to do so.In porn etc.Just my view.

It is true. Personally I enjoy seeing people with witty or interesting avatars that are unique and fun but I dont want to judge  people based on their avatar at the same time. I dont understand the appeal of having a nude person as an avatar but I also dont want to judge something I dont understand because It doesnt really bother me and if it gives them enjoyment or improves their experience on the website, i dont want to judge that in the slightest because i dont really care one way or the other 🙂 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Riley

[steve25805 126,157]

50 minutes ago, F.W said:

My view is that for an avatar it should be something humourous or personal,rather than a photo of your own or anyone elses genitals.Its just exposure,i really choose NOT to see another guys dick,at most times,unless I choose to do so.In porn etc.Just my view.

Your personal war on what others choose to post as avatars on an adult site just because YOU disapprove of seeing dicks is unacceptable. And in taking it upon yourself to reprimand newbies for doing it without authority you are BREAKING FORUM RULES in terms of making newbies feeling unwelcome. You taking it upon yourself to jump all over them for their avatars as soon as they show up WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED. Take this is an official warning.

If you have a problem with what someone else posts, report it and if it is against forum rules, action will be taken.

[Scot_Lover 1,878]

There is no policy on-site that prohibits the use or discriminates against what people have in their avatars. This is an adult site, adult things happen.

How many sites do people visit that have male members expressing who they are?

Are we going to be like governments and city councils that are offended over the most petty things? It's a representation on people reflecting who they are, it's nothing personal. If you don't like a persons avatar, then block that person, don't wail and moan about it. That in itself is getting close to rule violations.

Enjoy the people on this site, embrace the diversity of everyone on here, we are all here for a common purpose, live with it.

[Riley 13,064]

Just now, Scot_Lover said:

There is no policy on-site that prohibits the use or discriminates against what people have in their avatars. This is an adult site, adult things happen.

How many sites do people visit that have male members expressing who they are?

Are we going to be like governments and city councils that are offended over the most petty things? It's a representation on people reflecting who they are, it's nothing personal. If you don't like a persons avatar, then block that person, don't wail and moan about it. That in itself is getting close to rule violations.

Enjoy the people on this site, embrace the diversity of everyone on here, we are all here for a common purpose, live with it.

I love the sentence at the end. Whatever someones avatar is shouldnt matter because in conversation and just looking through the forum it doesnt matter. Let people express themselves how we want and be happy about it. Peefans is a community of people that all care about eachother from all over the world! That in itself is amazing! We are all people interested in pee from all over the globe and this website is a way for us to express our love for it and meet other people and make new friends. I have never really seen an avatar on here and thought, im not going to talk to this person because of their avatar. To be honest I havent looked at many people on here and not wanted to talk to them. Its amazing to come on peefans and see everyones stories and life experiences. It makes me feel like im part of a circle of friends and i think it would be weird for someones avatar to get in the way of that 🙂

 

[steve25805 126,157]

17 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

I personally would also invite @steve25805, @Sophie and @Admin to express themselves about this subject, commenting my words

This has been discussed privately amongst mods and Admin, and it has been decided that such avatars on an adult site are reasonable, and that any member attempting to wage a personal campaign just because they do not like something is not acceptable behaviour.

Especially if it risks making newbies feel unwelcome, which is against forum rules, as is negative judgementalism generally

We are an adult forum. Seeing the occasional pic of genitalia - male or female - whether in an avatar or anywhere else is not an unreasonable expectation. If anyone objects they can simply ignore it or put that person on ignore. It is not their place to reprimand or dictate or make someone feel unwelcome.

[spywareonya 37,962]

16 minutes ago, steve25805 said:

such avatars on an adult site are reasonable

Oh I agree, indeed I wrote

41 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

commenting my words

 

It was a reflection about what I wrote, not an official request for Staff opinion, as Staff opinion was already clear!!! I was more interested in a comment about the fact that showing one's cock in one's avatar can border show off and vulgarity, but on a PHILOSOPHICAL stance, NOT a Staff one, I think my intention were guilty of being easy to be misunderstood as I mentioned almost all the Staff, I did just because I read some interesting things in the chat today involving Steve and Sophie and FW, but FW was already mentioned, then I called Steve and Sophie and added Admin as the topic is very heart-touching, but I was not mentioning "the Staff", MY FAULT!!!

[steve25805 126,157]

1 minute ago, spywareonya said:

Oh I agree, indeed I wrote

 

It was a reflection about what I wrote, not an official request for Staff opinion, as Staff opinion was already clear!!! I was more interested in a comment about the fact that showing one's cock in one's avatar can border show off and vulgarity, but on a PHILOSOPHICAL stance, NOT a Staff one, I think my intention were guilty of being easy to be misunderstood as I mentioned almost all the Staff, I did just because I read some interesting things in the chat today involving Steve and Sophie and FW, but FW was already mentioned, then I called Steve and Sophie and added Admin as the topic is very heart-touching, but I was not mentioning "the Staff", MY FAULT!!!

No worries, and apologies for the apparent negativity, We just have to be clear.

On a personal  level we can all have opinions on the posting of genitalia in avatars, but as mods we have to suspend personal opinions and adhere to rules. And it is not against rules to post such avatars. And if someone chooses to express themselves in that way that has to be ok, as it is for others to draw whatever conclusions they may from that. But individual members seeking to act as moral arbiters without authority or rules behind them really isn't acceptable.

[spywareonya 37,962]

11 minutes ago, steve25805 said:

moral arbiters without rules behind them

Yes, it's unfitting and not based on reality, I just tought our pal was just expressing his mind, if he pressured exceedingly, well then he exaggerated, altough I still love him like no Tomorrow, but hospitality is the keyword around here, it has Always been my flag

Personally, I think this is the line which separates right from wrong, opinions are one thing, pressures are a different one

I absolutely agree with you

[speedy3471 10,655]

9 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

 

Personally, I think this is the line which separates right from wrong, opinions are one thing, pressures are a different one

I absolutely agree with you

I 100% agree with you

[spywareonya 37,962]

10 minutes ago, speedy3471 said:

I 100% agree with you

I'm sorry our pal FW got that angry and exaggerated, I agree with his opinion, a witty avatar is better than a cock, but being aggressive is pointless, I love him and Always hate when he end up cornering himself due to being a bit too headlong!

[speedy3471 10,655]

Just now, spywareonya said:

I'm sorry our pal FW got that angry and exaggerated, I agree with his opinion, a witty avatar is better than a cock, but being aggressive is pointless, I love him and Always hate when he end up cornering himself due to being a bit too headlong!

He is passionate that's for sure. Just to bad he jumped down the new guys throat

[spywareonya 37,962]

21 minutes ago, speedy3471 said:

He is passionate that's for sure

I understand him more than many and enormously respect him. He's a fighter, actually. But under the armor, he's polite, gentle, you cannot imagine how fair he was to me, like a really old-centuries english nobleman

22 minutes ago, speedy3471 said:

Just to bad he jumped down the new guys throat

Indeed, that's the problem

[speedy3471 10,655]

1 minute ago, spywareonya said:

I understand him more than many and enormously respect him. He's a fighter, actually. But under the armor, he's polite, gentle, you cannot imagine how fair he was to me, like a really old-centuries english nobleman

 

I have no dought he is a TRUE gentleman. Maybe he had a off day, we all get them 

[spywareonya 37,962]

19 minutes ago, speedy3471 said:

I have no dought he is a TRUE gentleman. Maybe he had a off day, we all get them 

In some african tribes, when somebody behaves badly, the Whole village gathers around them, a couple of people put their hands on his chest and back, and somebody else put their hand on those people's backs, and so on, forming a human web with the sinner in the middle, and they all talk to him about how much loved and respected he is, so to stir in him the consciousness of how much better Good is if compared to Evil

I love to act that way when somebody behaves badly

Yet if he insists, then he is notified it's crossing the lines

Steve did well to be clear, I'm just said it proved necessary

Anyway, it's all my fault nonetheless, I just wanted to express an opinion and missed to understand it was a hot topic, I knew it was important but really missed to get how much… I just hope all will settle down

I won't add anything else for now

 

[speedy3471 10,655]

And neither will I, Steve said what needed to be said. Iam sure all is taken care of

[gldenwetgoose 21,500]

I've spent quite a while trying to think of a suitable avatar, and since I haven't yet managed to find one I like I'm stuck with the 'G'.   I'm not using anything which potentially alludes to or could in a roundabout way divulge my identity. Similarly I don't want to misrepresent myself either.

It's interesting that all of this has come about as a product of one new member's erect dick - I can fully see @spywareonya's point, especially as he was standing boldly to attention, it could be viewed as a symbol of dominance and have a whole set of connotations.  With time, that owner of said dick will hopefully come to realise we're not that sort of 'wham - bam - thank you Ma'am' site, where the brasher, louder, bigger-dicked male is conqueror.

Perhaps a picture of a torso with dick mid-release of a golden stream would be more tolerable - certainly there lies the balance of equality - we welcome pictures across the forum of ladies undertaking such an act, so it would seem reasonable. Personally I've got no issues with that.

I'll have to put my thinking cap on a bit more and find a suitable avatar myself....

[steve25805 126,157]

I just want to add that we will all have our opinions about what constitutes a good avatar, and what is not so good. But we overstep the mark when - based on our own personal set of likes and dislikes - we take it upon ourselves to tell off others, especially jumping down the throats of newbies. Personally I much prefer symbolic avatars or - failing that - ones that feature ladies peeing, to pictures of cocks.

But there are no rules against such male nudity so it is never going to be my place - or anyone else's place - to tell newbies off for it, thereby making them feel uncomfortable.

This thread will be locked now because everything that needs to be said has been said.