Havelock

Yes, I carry tissues in the car. If you need a wipe I an assist 🙂

I remember the nannies and my aunts in Spain and France always carried tissues in their purses for wiping. I've observed this to just be more common in Europe where people are used to peeing outside compared to the US where its the exception to the rule.

On 12/14/2023 at 5:25 AM, stefania said:

Hello everyone, if you don't remember me, I'm Stefania, the 35-year-old mother who is discovering the world of piss and today I wanted to tell you about some of the things I was doing.

First I started wearing a little less clothes at home, instead of wearing shorts and a shirt, I only wore the shirt and panties. Then I started peeing in more places in the house and more often, one of my favorites is the kitchen. I also started leaving my clothes on to pee and I love the feeling of wet clothes on my body. Little by little I am encouraged to pee inside the house while my children are with me, for example when they play in their room I go to another part of the house to pee and then I clean a little so that it is not noticeable.

Hope you like!

Have you explored where you can get away with peeing outside? I've seen sometimes moms can get away with going in the same places where their kids take a break.

7 hours ago, paatujo said:

I vaguely remember reading an interview of somebody who had travelled and/or lived in Russia quite a lot. When asked about something surprising about Russian culture, they told about how stairwells and elevators are viewed as a no man's land and an extension to the outside, rather than a shared extension to the apartments and businesses like in some western countries. Also they noted that it indeed seems more acceptable to pee in the privacy of the extended outside than to be exposed outdoors, if these are the only two options. I've never discussed this with any native Russians to verify it, and haven't even seen much discussion online about exactly this, but evidence on the web does seem to strengthen these assumptions. Then again, some countries may have common stairwell peeing, but laws against publishing CCTV videos for all to see.

One might also take into account the question of public and private property and its effects on respect to it. Perhaps public spaces (such as streets, or stairwells of state-owned Soviet appartment buildings) may in some countries be treated with less respect than similar spaces owned by private individuals. Private ownership will most likely be connected with more interest in keeping property clean and its value up. So if most stairwells are public, and there is clear and common evidence of stairwell peeing, it may finally be generally quite accepted.

On the other hand, as pointed out earlier by @Havelock in an example from Spain, respect towards public and private property may be exactly the opposite. So perhaps this thought isn't going anywhere, or at least can't be generalised without closer knowledge of different cultures.

 

This Russian approach of not considering building halls, stairs and elevators as clean indoor spaces is fascinating. This also seems similar to what I have heard in China where everything outside you door is considered the dirty outside world.  I could see communism as a common thread here with China. I assume in both countries most of the large apartment buildings were built in the communist era by the government which would inherently make them public and remove much idea that it would be disrespectful to pee all over them. At the same time, communist societies were in some ways separated in 20th century societal evolution.  I.e. there was much more public peeing in the early 20th century globally by necessity. It was probably harder for these norms to evolve like the west under the communism. Anyway, its a hypothesis to ponder. 

21 hours ago, Emilaze said:

I would add France too. 

I spent most of my pre teens and teenage years in France and peeing by the side of street while laughing and chatting with a group of friends wasn't that big of a deal. We would surely joke about it but no one would particularly care. I still remember how my friends and I would take turns in peeing/guarding each other every day from school when we would pee in this alley (to save time), before heading for our violin lessons.

I should have included France. In addition to Spain I spent some time growing up in France and I don't think it was considered naughty at all to pee on the street, sidewalk, side of buildings, playground etc.. My nanny and other people's parents would encourage it if we had to go. If you grow up with this attitude, it does not really change and become naughty when you get older. 

I wrote a little bit about my experiences with these cultural peeing dynamics here: 

20 hours ago, Emilaze said:

When I was a child, idk what it was with me but I ALWAYS felt the need to pee when there weren't any toilets around. My aunt used to take me and her kids to amusement parts every month and would always have us pee in the car park beside/behind our car first before going in for any of the rides. And any time we had to pee while in the park she would have us pee behind those big ass trees or behind rides, if there wasnt any toilet nearby. 

I still do this sometime (tho mostly in water parks) as an adult if I think I can get away with it. The only difference now is that 7 out of 10 times, it isnt a "necessity" like it was when I was a child.

@Emilaze What a great way to grow up. Were your aunts kids male or female? Do think this had any impact on where she had you pee? or was she just a pee outside kind of person who would also pee outside herself?

Did she have to help or teach you to squat? Or had you learned on your to squat somewhere else?

I think the concept of "naughty peeing" is very culturally dependent and it seems that on Peefans the default context is usually US/UK. Many of the places considered naughty in these countries would not be considered naughty in another like Spain, Russia or China. For example, peeing on the fine stone and glass in the entry way of a closed luxury boutique would probably be considered naughty in the US/UK. However doing the same in Spain would not be that strange or "naughty."  I think our puritanical roots often come through and help define our fetish.

I feel like some of us with pee fetishes like crave the naughty aspect while others like the look, feel etc.. I'm not sure the concept would be as hot and fetishized if we came from a culture where much public peeing is not considered naughty. 

1 hour ago, Pissboy97 said:

Man I love videos like this, keep posting!

Douyin is Chinese Tik Tok

Take out driver on the apartment wall at about 3:40 https://v.douyin.com/i82wQC6e/

Subway https://v.douyin.com/i82w4rmM/

https://v.douyin.com/i82K2csc/

https://v.douyin.com/i82K1WAL/

Welcome. How did get into pee?

Did you ever think about pee before? Did you find pee interesting growing up? Did you ever pee with other people?

4 minutes ago, 737DK737 said:

I can absolutely agree with that. I've been to the Canary Islands several times while there were festivals there.
People were pissing on the sidewalk on the party strip, and every few meters a woman was squatting or a man was standing.
The walls were completely pissed, there was piss running all over the place downtown.
A few even pissed off the balconies. Women who were more inhibited sat on stairs and pretended to sit but peed.
Their culture is very open about pissing, no one judges a woman who pees all over the entrance to the house.
They were also much more open against littering , the puddles were all decorated with tissues.
Empty plastic cups were everywhere, the harbor basin was littered with empty cups.

Generally a much more open society

Spain is amazing like this. I really wonder what in the culture made it this way.

What's the first piss stream and/or puddle you remember seeing?

I'm a very visual person and its always been a part of my pee interest. The first stream and puddle I remember was from a cousin in a park in Spain where we were playing. She was running towards me, and all the sudden stopped, reached under her dress, pulled down her panties and dropped into a squat. It all happened so fast and matter of fact that I did not comprehend it. Then a stream appeared between her legs, shooting out in front of her feet.  A puddle formed on the parched, fine gravel, and expanded as her her stream continued to enlarge it. The visual memory has stuck with me ever sense. Most of the significant pees I've witnessed in my life have have burned similar images of streams and puddles into my mind. 

16 hours ago, sillyme said:

What about public bathroom floor peeing, fitting room peeing, elevator peeing and hotel carpet peeing? Does anyone know of countries where that is more common, more socially acceptable, and if you do get caught only at the most you’ll get a small fine?

I don't know about bathroom and fitting room floors but elevators seem more common and accepted in China and perhaps Russia. I think in China it comes from the prevalence of split crotch pants instead of diapers so pee ends up on the floor when young and parents don't seem to mind it later. Thus it because less strange for adults to do it if they have memories of doing it growing up. 

Just now, Darlene said:

I hate to say it but I’ve pissed in a small dark alley behind a nightclub I came out of. 

@DarleneWhy should you hate to say that? That's a perfectly good place if you need to pee. Tell us more. Were you alone? Did you leave a nice puddle?

13 hours ago, nygirl said:

Am disgusted when I see a female or ugly guy pissing in public, but start dripping when it's a relatively attractive guy. 

Interesting. I am much more turned on by seeing an attractive female pissing in public. I'm not gay or bi but I also get aroused when males pee in public because I fantasize about being them. It's a totally different thing but still interesting. 

On 12/3/2023 at 8:08 PM, nygirl said:

Last night, I hit the bar with friends. We frequently went out to smoke, where we would see several guys pissing right on the street, on cars, on walls. Even the bouncer stopped to piss on a car.  It was amazing how some guys were so unashamed to whip their cocks out and piss all over something. We must’ve seen at least 12 guys pissing so openly, only feet away from us. 
 

The male friends I came with expressed disgust (maybe jealousy?) at these men’s behavior. I could also sense their annoyance when I lost track of the conversation because I was watching these guys. 

I could hardly peel my eyes away; I have never been so overwhelmingly lustful. I felt my face turn red. I was both so incredibly turned on and embarrassed to have been seen looking at them by my friends. I tried to ignore all these college guys pissing, but even when I diverted my attention to my friends, I could still hear the pissing and see it in my periphery. 

I was so turned on, I think it is the closest to a hands-free orgasm I have ever been, without even trying. My clit was just bulging against my underwear for most of the night. 

On the subway back home, I convinced my one friend to take turns pissing in the subway elevator (one person in at a time) while one stood guard. I chose to go second so I could see his piss when I went. He chose to pee on the wall at hip height. I could barely piss, I was so turned on. 

On the subway ride back, I put my jacket over my lap and rubbed myself discreetly through my pants for about 10 seconds before I orgasmed in my pants right in front of a (hopefully) unaware older hot man. We made eye contact briefly while I was orgasming. 
 

One of the most sexually exciting nights  of my life.

I feel like NYC has more public peeing than most places in the US but this sounds even beyond the usual, although I've only really been at bars in Manhattan and the Brooklyn.  @nygirl was this a unique night at the bar or is there usually this much public peeing? Did any girls join in? Often when there are a dozen guys peeing you'll get at least a couple of girls. Maybe you can go again and instigate friends to pee with you. I would have gladly joined and let you pick a place for me to spray my piss. 

I'm glad you had the chance to wet the elevator with your friend. I hope you have a chance again soon and I know we would love to see photos of the puddles. 

On 5/15/2022 at 2:58 AM, Pee Outside Girl said:

I took him to the tree like he was a kid, I helped him to lean on the tree and he put his hand on it so he wouldn't fall, I was holding it and he got a little nervous, so I stopped holding it and then he said "take it, it's coming" of course I took it again and I aim at the tree, he watered all the tree, I aimed at the trunk, the roots and the stream would go up and down, I enjoyed it, I got a little splashback on my hand but it wasn't a big deal. 

I'm not sure how I missed this original post but its really hot. Having a woman help me pee like this is my favorite experience, especially if I am verbally encouraged to pee on something.  @Pee Outside Girl Have you guided anyone else to pee outside like this?

This male/female 

On 11/30/2023 at 9:25 AM, Rider028 said:

 At the time the rooms were assigned by gender and the women's got a wet spot way more than the men's. 

This split is interesting. I've heard @beachmom say that mothers are way more open to peeing in a variety of places for convenience. This would seem to align with this. I don't think my wife has ever done this but she's very flexible with letting them go in places like garages and she's not into pee at all.  

5 hours ago, Lonewolf said:

I spent my time growing up split between a rural town in Texas and a rural town in Japan, so pissing outside was always a normal part of my life. I think meeting city people and realising that it's not that common in cities (American ones anyway) is what made me find it hot.

In texas our place was off the grid (no mains water and stuff) so my mom encouraged me and my brother to pee in the yard to save water. In Japan we had an apartment in a tiny town/village. It was really common for people, especially men and boys, to pee in the street or on the side of a building. So I guess that just trained me to think pissing in public is a normal thing to do.

@Lonewolf that must have been a really interesting cultural contrast between Texas and Japan.  I've always been interested in learning more about pee culture in Japan.  Obviously Japan is significant in the creation of pee porn and there seems to be a whole school girl theme frequently in it. I had a Japanese girlfriend who told me a bit about it and it always seemed interest. Peeing on the street and the side of buildings sounds similar to my experience in Spain and France. Did your parents encourage you to pee on those places? Or did you just do it on your own from observing others?

Was it just boys in Japan or also girls? In Spain and France it was as common for my female cousins / friends to squat and pee outside as the boys. 

1 hour ago, Pee Outside Girl said:

I was about 6 years old, I went with my parents to US and my mom, aunt and sister went to six flags with the son of one of my aunt’s friends, he needed to pee and the restroom was about 30 seconds walking from where we were, she instructed him to pee behind a trashcan and on the trashcan

Any idea why she did this? Was is just normal for him to pee outside instead of seeking a bathroom? Did you ever pee outside at that time?

https://v.douyin.com/iRcPqX7P/

On 11/8/2023 at 2:01 PM, WateryMoose said:

When I was much younger we'd go to a fair that was set up on november here, during one of our trip there I remember being desperate to pee and my mother told me to head behind a stand to relieve it, I eventually landed inside a booth-sort of thing and peed there XD

So you peed inside the booth? did you wet the wall and ground? Was you mother encouraging you to pee on the both or you just found it and she had no idea?

@Wolfenstar13 what did you like to aim at growing up? Was your family ok with peeing outside?

And peeing in elevators in China

https://www.iqiyi.com/v_1kquljg4evw.html

https://www.iqiyi.com/v_19rvllo97o.html

https://www.bilibili.com/?bvid=BV1ZB4y1q78S&spm_id_from=333.788.seo.out

https://www.iqiyi.com/v_1fb7mjaoae4.html?vfrm=2-3-0-1

https://www.douyin.com/zhuanti/7195071333741430821

https://video.sina.cn/news/2018-03-01/detail-ifyrzinh1170635.d.html

Looks like peeing in buildings is also common in China:

https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDYzMTM5NTU5Mg==.html?playMode=pugv&frommaciku=1

https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ2MzU0MDIxMg==.html?playMode=pugv&frommaciku=1

https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4838321260789869?from=old_pc_videoshow

I've thought about going to Rokslide. I'm also not the type to go camping, especially if I'm flying in. Are there hotels to stay in near by?