Is the pee fetish dirty?

[wjimmy 1,019]

One of the most frequently used words to describe the various aspects of the pee fetish/delight in peeing or watching people pee is 'naughty'. But I wonder how many people here would describe it as 'dirty' as well?

My own fetish focus is piss porn and I certainly would describe pictures or videos of people pissing into each other's mouths etc as dirty - with a very strong sexual connotation. For me, along with Woody Allen, sex isn't truly sexy unless it's dirty and piss porn reaches a pinnacle of dirtiness. 

But I realize I may be in a minority here. I also realize that not all pee fans are focused on porn. So, do you think of your own version of the pee fetish as 'dirty', or even sexual at all?

[gldenwetgoose 21,496]

I've just done a quick search on other topics within this area (it's a Moderator thing - when something new is posted, to wonder if it's already been covered and should be merged in).

So I searched on 'dirty' and very quickly realised it's one of those words with two very connected but different meanings:

- Dirty as in naughty, sexually charged, illicit and adult - talking dirty for example.

- Dirty as the opposite to clean.  Jeans which have been pissed in, a pile of towels deliberately soaked and now need to be cleaned in the washing machine.

So there will be those who as soon as peeing is mentioned in our context immediately think of the fetish side of the activity and may use the term dirty to reflect the fetish and 'non vanilla' nature of naughty fun. In some senses naughty and dirty can be interchangeable, although 'dirty' seems more expressive and adult...    Naughty fun is ok - but naughty talk?   Dirty talk sounds a lot more thrilling.

Others of course will have in their mind the conditioning of parents (etc) that spilled bodily fluids should be cleaned away, underwear and clothing exposed to urine should be washed etc.

I thought it was an interesting and linked double meaning anyway.

 

Personally speaking, for me pee is often sexual - seeking out female pee porn will almost always lead to arousal and often to masturbation. Hearing or seeing in real life even more so.  And with the view that most of society view that as a weird fetish, and societies hang ups around such behaviours then yes I'd describe it as naughty or dirty.

The actual act of peeing - of course when any one of us is actually peeing, five times a day, then often there'll be nothing sexual or improper about it.  And if we choose to enjoy a non-sexual pee somewhere other than the toilet then we put forwards all the arguments about it being sterile etc, so obviously not dirty in that sense.   If I was to leave pee to go stale, like in an open container or on a carpet to the point of the room smelling of piss then that could be described as dirty I guess.

[sathuta 1,773]

No

[Bacardi 10,134]

I would say yes I consider it to be dirty as in unclean, only because I am into golden showers and I want a man to literally shower me (from the neck down!) with urine, thus making me smell like him. I guess in my mind I wouldn't be clean anymore since pee is a waste product, but that's one of the appeals! Peeing on the floor, in the carpet, on me, on my clothes, in my mind, soils those items and that's what I like. 

I also think it depends on the person. Some people even outside of the fetish will say pee is sterile and are not afraid of getting pee on their hands. Unfortunately I am not one of those people 🤣 outside of the fetish I avoid pee at all costs!

[MidoriLemonade85 2,366]

Interesting question! I find it spiritual, so not dirty. It is intimate and pushes boundaries. I mean it is a destructive force too. Like a flood changes a landscape, pee changes or destroys too but I think it also renews and for me is such a loving, sexy thing to do. I don’t think it is dirty, no.

[Paulypeeps 5,290]

From my point of view pee is clean. I am one of those who consider it to be a sterile fluid at the source, and therefore something that is not dirty at all. I am happy to leave my pee anywhere on the basis that it was perfectly clean when it left me! If it ends up on a dirty carpet then it will of course become dirty also - but that is not me being dirty!

@gldenwetgoose has very eloquently explained the two different meanings of dirty. I only use one meaning.

[TasteMyPee 112]

12 hours ago, wjimmy said:

One of the most frequently used words to describe the various aspects of the pee fetish/delight in peeing or watching people pee is 'naughty'. But I wonder how many people here would describe it as 'dirty' as well?

My own fetish focus is piss porn and I certainly would describe pictures or videos of people pissing into each other's mouths etc as dirty - with a very strong sexual connotation. For me, along with Woody Allen, sex isn't truly sexy unless it's dirty and piss porn reaches a pinnacle of dirtiness. 

But I realize I may be in a minority here. I also realize that not all pee fans are focused on porn. So, do you think of your own version of the pee fetish as 'dirty', or even sexual at all?

I think "dirty" depends on how we define it. Some like sitting or rotten pee, peeing on things that can't wash out, etc. Yea, that's dirty and not my thing at all; I don't like odors and bad tasting fluids. However, drinking a lot of water (actually making good tasting pee), then peeing fresh and gently into someone's mouth? Not dirty at all - quite delicious, and quite the delicacy 🙂

[Pontepee 62]

In my little niche of the kink I don't consider it dirty at all. I find both the sensation of pissing and the feeling of being pissed on incredibly sensual and erotic, not dirty. I love my gf pissing in my mouth and all over me and I don't feel degraded by it one bit. I also really like outdoor and public pissing but for me this is a naughty thrill, which is different to being dirty. If I do make a mess anywhere, like if I piss on myself in a t shirt then I don't get a buzz from the fact the clothing is now dirty and has to be washed, the buzz came from the sensation of release combined with the warm wetness. 

I find it really interesting just how many different vibes there are to the kink and love that this site embraces them all. I really like reading about everyone's particular slant on it and it's really expanding the scope of my own interest too.

 

[laughingbeast 414]

I guess there's more than one kind of pee fetishes.  For example, I love pictures of girls peeing, but peeing in the normal natural way a "normal" girl would pee, meaning where the purpose is to relieve herself but not make a bigger mess than necessary.

I'm not into scenes like peeing in someone's mouth, wetting and pee vandalism as peeing on furniture in a hotel somewhere. I find these things dirty, and in some cases, kind of disgusting. So I'm definitely not attracted to the urine itself, but under certain conditions I like to see the peeing process.

But I'm not some snowflake who breaks down when they see a picture, which they don't like, so I have no problem browsing threads that include both content I like and dislike. I just focus on what I like and basically ignore the rest. 😀

 

[leefarmer 22]

I think everything has its own interpretation on what something is based on your environment. Everyone, or most people I believe at least, would have their own sexual kink or fetish. There would always be someone who would say something was dirty or not there thing. I don't think piss is dirty, in fact if you get digging in some places on the internet some people will say saliva carries more germs than urine, but I am not a doctor and they probably weren't either. We have always been told piss is almost sterile, in a healthy person of course. In relation to your point about your particular porn history, check out my post I made earlier it was very daunting writing that as I have been practicing what you've been watching for years.  

I would also add this is a very kind corner of the internet from my observation so far and considering we're on a kink forum that's hard to believe. I noticed even when people disagree or feel differently they still answer respectfully.  

[MidoriLemonade85 2,366]

On 8/20/2022 at 5:48 AM, Pontepee said:

In my little niche of the kink I don't consider it dirty at all. I find both the sensation of pissing and the feeling of being pissed on incredibly sensual and erotic, not dirty. I love my gf pissing in my mouth and all over me and I don't feel degraded by it one bit. I also really like outdoor and public pissing but for me this is a naughty thrill, which is different to being dirty. If I do make a mess anywhere, like if I piss on myself in a t shirt then I don't get a buzz from the fact the clothing is now dirty and has to be washed, the buzz came from the sensation of release combined with the warm wetness. 

I find it really interesting just how many different vibes there are to the kink and love that this site embraces them all. I really like reading about everyone's particular slant on it and it's really expanding the scope of my own interest too.

 

Beautifully said. 

[gldenwetgoose 21,496]

Sometimes moderating a site like this can feel a pretty unpopular task...    sometimes not getting chance to enjoy but instead feeling like I'm just upsetting people by removing content and fighting an uphill battle to appeal for the behaviours at the heart of the Peefans ethos.

Then I read a post like this - comment after comment, and then more comments all treating each other with such respect.  Of course we all like different things, but the way each of you guys and girls have so sensitively explained your own views with complete sensitivity to others.   No disagreement, no pettiness or looking down on anyone.

That is why this site is so amazing - in fact, not the site - the people on this site.  Without you people there would be no site, no content, no friendships and no love.

Long may it continue. 

[Alfresco 11,633]

Interesting debate.  For me, it very much depends on the circumstances.   I don't think of peeing generally as being dirty and when I am enjoying a golden shower being bathed in pee I don't think of that as a dirty activity, nor do I consider my favourite part of peeing - outdoor peeing - to be dirty as such.

However, I do also love the smell of aged pee - maybe pee stained knickers or that unmistakeable aroma in the car park stairwell.   To me, that could be considered as dirty because it is old and hasn't been cleaned, but I still love it.  

From another angle, I can see why people would consider that people peeing in naughty locations is a dirty act because they are leaving their pee in places which might affect others.  However, the vast majority of people that do this are doing so from the point of needing relief and finding a convenient location out of necessity rather than because they are being sexual.   They probably either don't give a second thought to it being dirty or just don't care because their need for relief trumps anyone else's entitlement to a clean area.   If a public toilet is already in a bit of a mess, most people would rather make it more of a mess than risk getting other people's fluids on them by trying to be clean in themselves.  If they pee in a stairwell it is because it provides them a bit of privacy which is more important to them at that moment than worrying about leaving a puddle that someone else might have to step in or a stale smell that others might detect days or weeks later.   Part of the interest for me is the psychology of ladies who pee away from toilets but don't have any particular pee interest.   I find it fascinating who the approach and level of concern varies significantly.

Our local branch of Sainsburys have closed their fitting rooms and when asked about it, one of the store workers told my wife that they have been permanently closed because people kept using them as toilets (even though the store has toilets).   Would that have been a case where people enjoyed making the cubicles dirty?  Or was it just convenience and they couldn't be bothered to go to the toilets just about 25m away?   Either way, I'm sure that the store staff would think of that as dirty.

So is peeing dirty?   For me, the answer generally is no unless deliberately trying to damage property of others.