As women have become more bold, young men are becoming timid?

[steve25805 126,155]

It is understandable for guys to be reluctant to pee outside in a society where you can be jailed and treated like a sex offender for the rest of your life because of it. Which is of course both utterly draconian and utterly ridiculous.

But if that is the sad reality guys face the risk of if caught, then clearly they are only ever going to do it if it is a very last resort.

I wouldn't want to risk prison or being labelled a sex offender just for taking a piss either.

Fortunately here in the UK, urinating in public is only treated as the very minor crime that it is and you risk no more than a small fine at worst.

So guys generally - especially after a few drinks - tend not to be too shy about peeing in public. It is still the case here that they are less shy about it than the ladies, whom you see doing it much less often. Though it is always awesome when you spot a lady doing it.

[beachmom 1,815]

On 4/10/2020 at 1:07 PM, steve25805 said:

It is understandable for guys to be reluctant to pee outside in a society where you can be jailed and treated like a sex offender for the rest of your life because of it. Which is of course both utterly draconian and utterly ridiculous.

But if that is the sad reality guys face the risk of if caught, then clearly they are only ever going to do it if it is a very last resort.

I wouldn't want to risk prison or being labelled a sex offender just for taking a piss either.

Fortunately here in the UK, urinating in public is only treated as the very minor crime that it is and you risk no more than a small fine at worst.

So guys generally - especially after a few drinks - tend not to be too shy about peeing in public. It is still the case here that they are less shy about it than the ladies, whom you see doing it much less often. Though it is always awesome when you spot a lady doing it.

I think here in the U.S. some of the ridiculous laws passed in recent years have given many grown men hesitation, since some of the penalties certainly don't match the crime. But even at home and around the neighborhood where no one outside of friends or family is apt to see them, I've noticed that it often doesn't even seem to occur to many young men and boys that could or should pee outdoors. While laws seem to have become more serious and guys less bold, I've noticed the opposite among women, especially moms, who may not do so themselves, but often expect the guys will.  

[Mr. Whizz 5,899]

Yeah I can understand for the most part why men have been forced to stop. Sex culture in general is America is much less accepted, mostly because of a high Christian population (don’t mean to dis on religion, but it’s true that is has way more power over government than it should). With a repressed sex culture, it can make some people turn to less..... legal options to get their rocks off (that and Americans ignores their mental health crisis). By saying that you can’t piss in public is illegal it eliminates the excuse of having a cock out in public, making women who are afraid of aggressive sexual behavior feel more comfortable. Women in America are far less comfortable pissing in public because they feel at risk. Women in America are also less likely to post sexual images somewhere, not including private messages. The bottom line is this: a lot of things fuel a repressed sexual culture, which causes men (especially ones with mental issues) to do less legal things to or in view of women without their consent, which eliminates public peeing and creates a world where women are uncomfortable watching men pee and are uncomfortable peeing where they can be seen by men.

[wettingfan1993 34]

Do you ever feel self-conscious about a guy hearing you pee or would you be fine with it?

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 4/15/2020 at 11:16 AM, Mr. Whizz said:

Yeah I can understand for the most part why men have been forced to stop. Sex culture in general is America is much less accepted, mostly because of a high Christian population (don’t mean to dis on religion, but it’s true that is has way more power over government than it should). With a repressed sex culture, it can make some people turn to less..... legal options to get their rocks off (that and Americans ignores their mental health crisis). By saying that you can’t piss in public is illegal it eliminates the excuse of having a cock out in public, making women who are afraid of aggressive sexual behavior feel more comfortable. Women in America are far less comfortable pissing in public because they feel at risk. Women in America are also less likely to post sexual images somewhere, not including private messages. The bottom line is this: a lot of things fuel a repressed sexual culture, which causes men (especially ones with mental issues) to do less legal things to or in view of women without their consent, which eliminates public peeing and creates a world where women are uncomfortable watching men pee and are uncomfortable peeing where they can be seen by men.

We really do live in a society. Damn. 

 

Bottom text.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

I feel like I'm somewhere in between this divide. I'm a trans girl, and I like peeing outside, but I don't like being seen as "manly" just for doing so. I'm still shy about it as well, but if there's no bathroom around and I need to pee, why shouldn't I lift my skirt and take aim at a wall or a tree?? But then again I'm worried that I'll be made fun of or called a "fake woman," or "manly," or "a disgusting freak," .....

 

 

I have issues...

[oliver2 4,419]

4 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

I feel like I'm somewhere in between this divide. I'm a trans girl, and I like peeing outside, but I don't like being seen as "manly" just for doing so. I'm still shy about it as well, but if there's no bathroom around and I need to pee, why shouldn't I lift my skirt and take aim at a wall or a tree??

Something something self-expression, repression, gender is complicated, mumble mumble. Dunno proper answer. I've met enough (cis-)guys who didn't grow up peeing outdoors and don't want to, and (cis-)girls who pee outside so willingly you start to suspect they enjoy it that "PEEING OUTDOORS IS A MANLY THING THAT GIRLS DON'T DO" gets yelled "objection!" at, and hauled out of the court with a vaudeville hook. Yes, that's a mixed metaphor and I don't care. It's still more convincing than Blue's "All Rise".

I mean I think we all know you're exaggerating a bit about if there's no bathroom around, because it's not like you wouldn't pick a wall over a bathroom given the choice. (Me too).

[oliver2 4,419]

On 4/15/2020 at 4:16 PM, Mr. Whizz said:

Yeah I can understand for the most part why men have been forced to stop. Sex culture in general is America is much less accepted, mostly because of a high Christian population (don’t mean to dis on religion, but it’s true that is has way more power over government than it should). With a repressed sex culture, it can make some people turn to less..... legal options to get their rocks off (that and Americans ignores their mental health crisis). 

I don't know what to make of this, either. (Heard of shitposting? Well, this is doubtposting). From this, you'd sort of think/hope that somewhere that wasn't so sexually repressed - say, Sweden - would do better at avoiding/preventing abuse and assault, and... I'm not sure it does, judging by some of the controversy around Steig Larsson's novels. And good luck getting any clear answers about sexual behaviour, since, in the words of Gregory Kinsey, "Everybody lies".

One effect of porn's increasing popularity might be that non-sexual nudity becomes more... inconceivable. (The obvious one: teens get their idea of what sex is/looks like from porn, with assorted bizarre effects).

[JesseP 1,277]

12 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

I feel like I'm somewhere in between this divide. I'm a trans girl, and I like peeing outside, but I don't like being seen as "manly" just for doing so. I'm still shy about it as well, but if there's no bathroom around and I need to pee, why shouldn't I lift my skirt and take aim at a wall or a tree?? But then again I'm worried that I'll be made fun of or called a "fake woman," or "manly," or "a disgusting freak," .....

 

 

I have issues...

Squat and pee, I find watching a trans girl squatting and peeing quite a turn on.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

2 hours ago, JesseP said:

Squat and pee, I find watching a trans girl squatting and peeing quite a turn on.

I mean I like standing too. Squatting is honestly kind of difficult for me. 

Edited May 9, 2020 by Ms. Tito

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

9 hours ago, oliver2 said:

Something something self-expression, repression, gender is complicated, mumble mumble. Dunno proper answer. I've met enough (cis-)guys who didn't grow up peeing outdoors and don't want to, and (cis-)girls who pee outside so willingly you start to suspect they enjoy it that "PEEING OUTDOORS IS A MANLY THING THAT GIRLS DON'T DO" gets yelled "objection!" at, and hauled out of the court with a vaudeville hook. Yes, that's a mixed metaphor and I don't care. It's still more convincing than Blue's "All Rise".

I mean I think we all know you're exaggerating a bit about if there's no bathroom around, because it's not like you wouldn't pick a wall over a bathroom given the choice. (Me too).

Hehe I would if I was brave enough. 

[speedy3471 10,655]

On 5/8/2020 at 10:16 PM, Ms. Tito said:

I feel like I'm somewhere in between this divide. I'm a trans girl, and I like peeing outside, but I don't like being seen as "manly" just for doing so. I'm still shy about it as well, but if there's no bathroom around and I need to pee, why shouldn't I lift my skirt and take aim at a wall or a tree?? But then again I'm worried that I'll be made fun of or called a "fake woman," or "manly," or "a disgusting freak," .....

 

 

I have issues...

Well the people who make fun of you are just ignorant assholes. Men and women should be able to piss outside and not feel bad about it

The law sometimes feels differently lol

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 4/10/2020 at 12:21 AM, beachmom said:

That's reasonable thinking in public, yet I'm still wondering why young men seem to be so shy around their moms, sisters, aunts and such and why we don't see men jumping at the chance to exhibit themselves in places like this site.

Okay, I'm close with my family, but not THAT close! 

Plus it'd be kinda weird for me to express my kinks around my family. And incest/minor family stuff really isn't my thing. 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 4/9/2020 at 11:07 PM, glad1 said:

I guess I was fortunate to get over my shyness in my early 20's. Not that I go out of my way to pee in public, but I have no problem answering nature's call when I'm hiking, driving back roads or on small boats. Sure, I've been caught by women several times but, aside from a not so pleasant ex, I've yet to have one complain. 

If I caught you peeing in the woods I'd fuckin ask if I could join you lol

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

On 5/10/2020 at 1:32 PM, speedy3471 said:

Well the people who make fun of you are just ignorant assholes. Men and women should be able to piss outside and not feel bad about it

The law sometimes feels differently lol

Yeah, the law and society are kinda repressive. 

[speedy3471 10,655]

15 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

Yeah, the law and society are kinda repressive. 

Yes they both are. I would hope that society would come around and be more accepting. Maybe one day

[Sweets 4,517]

I remember back in the 70’s and 80’s   Men and boys would pee outside all the time.  My brother would pee anywhere.  When we went on trips we pulled over and my dad and his friend would pee on the side of the road.  Same with my brother.  I don’t ever remember my mom or her friend peeing on the side of the road.   When my dad took me fishing he would tell me to go pee in the woods. I even remember my husband now when we first started date him and friends would be in the back yard all the time when grilling out That was the end of the 90’s.   I haven’t seen him do that in years.   All though he has admitted to me about peeing on the roof of building he working on if they don’t have cameras 

[Dr.P 1,473]

I grew up in the Midwestern US, in the previous century. Guys all peed outside, without hesitation, or problems. There were no real penalties, except possible embarrassment, if a girl or woman happened to see us. But the modern world has changed all of that, as beachmom has said.  First of all, there is strong social disapproval, the "war on men," which she describes. Second, there are very serious potential legal problems, in many locations, as noted by Sweets, among others. Men can be jailed, and branded as sex offenders, for life, for taking a leak, in a public place. And third, with the ubiquity of surveillance cameras, in today's world, men can be caught on tape, and subjected to those same legal penalties. So the freedom to pee anywhere is just not worth the risk, anymore, in my view. 

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

1 hour ago, Dr.P said:

I grew up in the Midwestern US, in the previous century. Guys all peed outside, without hesitation, or problems. There were no real penalties, except possible embarrassment, if a girl or woman happened to see us. But the modern world has changed all of that, as beachmom has said.  First of all, there is strong social disapproval, the "war on men," which she describes. Second, there are very serious potential legal problems, in many locations, as noted by Sweets, among others. Men can be jailed, and branded as sex offenders, for life, for taking a leak, in a public place. And third, with the ubiquity of surveillance cameras, in today's world, men can be caught on tape, and subjected to those same legal penalties. So the freedom to pee anywhere is just not worth the risk, anymore, in my view. 

Again, we live in a society. Pee Gang rise up. 

 

Also I'm on the left wing but I don't support the "war on men." Attacking fellow working people and potential friends is silly, I think everyone should be free to pee where they wish, be they men, women, or those who vibe outside the binary. 

[speedy3471 10,655]

16 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

 I think everyone should be free to pee where they wish, be they men, women, or those who vibe outside the binary. 

I totally agree. 

[Mr. Whizz 5,899]

On 5/9/2020 at 12:16 AM, Ms. Tito said:

I feel like I'm somewhere in between this divide. I'm a trans girl, and I like peeing outside, but I don't like being seen as "manly" just for doing so. I'm still shy about it as well, but if there's no bathroom around and I need to pee, why shouldn't I lift my skirt and take aim at a wall or a tree?? But then again I'm worried that I'll be made fun of or called a "fake woman," or "manly," or "a disgusting freak," .....

 

 

I have issues...

First off, Fuck those assholes. I mean, FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES. I transgender woman pissing is one of the sexiest things ever. If you are that worried, I recommend doing the standing leg spread, and aiming straight down with your skirt covering your gentiles. Leaning against a wall is best, since no man would typically do that.

Second, Unless you are in southern fucking Alabama, most people keep their tongues in their mouths.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

1 hour ago, Mr. Whizz said:

First off, Fuck those assholes. I mean, FUCK THOSE ASSHOLES. I transgender woman pissing is one of the sexiest things ever. If you are that worried, I recommend doing the standing leg spread, and aiming straight down with your skirt covering your gentiles. Leaning against a wall is best, since no man would typically do that.

Second, Unless you are in southern fucking Alabama, most people keep their tongues in their mouths.

Hehe thanks. I'm fine with standing and peeing "like a guy," but yeah, I don't like being called one. 

[Mr. Whizz 5,899]

13 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

Hehe thanks. I'm fine with standing and peeing "like a guy," but yeah, I don't like being called one. 

Yeah I get it. It feels derogatory. It's impossible to control how other people react. Standing to piss is definitely the easiest, most convenient, and probably the most comfortable way to piss in public, but is is also the most vulnerable to others judging you. Not just for transgender people but men an women too.

[beachmom 1,815]

On 5/14/2020 at 9:12 PM, Ms. Tito said:

Hehe thanks. I'm fine with standing and peeing "like a guy," but yeah, I don't like being called one. 

While I'm very much a woman, I like many women have mastered the art of peeing while standing. Granted it's a bit more difficult than it is for an anatomical man, but it's quite possible. I  too have received some rather shocked looks while doing so, but when I need go, I go and it's much easier standing. certainly if I had the benefit of a penis, I'd never take a squat, regardless of what anyone thinks.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

38 minutes ago, beachmom said:

While I'm very much a woman, I like many women have mastered the art of peeing while standing. Granted it's a bit more difficult than it is for an anatomical man, but it's quite possible. I  too have received some rather shocked looks while doing so, but when I need go, I go and it's much easier standing. certainly if I had the benefit of a penis, I'd never take a squat, regardless of what anyone thinks.

Really? Wow. Have you ever done it in front of your boys, or anyone for that matter? Pee standing, that is.