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@pissy_nerd01, I don’t generally feel shame, but I do sometimes feel guilty after some of my pee activities.  This is especially if I have peed somewhere that others might be inconvenienced by. I know what you mean about feelings changing after having come.   I guess I have got passed a lot of it by taking the approach that I often enjoy my peeing but don’t masturbate to coming afterwards.  That seems to make it less of a guilt feeling because I am still turned on by it.

I have had situations in hotels where I have made a mess and then cum.  Sometimes that can lead me to feeling guilty and cleaning up straight away as best I can. 

On 12/16/2023 at 4:32 PM, vanessa9 said:

Are you implying that he was scared of me ? A poor innocent lady in the most vulnerable situation of relieving herself under a bridge, with her pants on her ankles and her pussy fully on display, couldn't be that frightening...

More likely loving the view but saying he was scared of the dog to give him an excuse to stop and watch until you had hold of the dog.   

Very hot experience, but is there any chance that she was testing you to see if you would stay loyal to your fiancé?   

2 hours ago, gldenwetgoose said:

And those individual door restrooms also very often give the added bonus of an entirely private sink - for those that prefer to non-conform in its use.

And sometimes a floor drain, and usually a bin......

12 hours ago, Havelock said:

@Emilaze What a great way to grow up. Were your aunts kids male or female? Do think this had any impact on where she had you pee? or was she just a pee outside kind of person who would also pee outside herself?

Did she have to help or teach you to squat? Or had you learned on your to squat somewhere else?

And @Emilaze, did your aunt also pee by the car or anywhere else in the park?

So the moral of the story is be careful, stay safe, respect other people and listen to anything they say - leave if they are not happy, don't do anything to intimidate anyone and don't go being intrusive or filming.

If you happen to see something from a distance or whilst walking past then all should be fine, but if you are an idiot and intimidate people or be excessively intrusive to someone who is trying to be hidden then you are probably asking for trouble.

12 hours ago, Emilaze said:

When I was a child, idk what it was with me but I ALWAYS felt the need to pee when there weren't any toilets around. My aunt used to take me and her kids to amusement parts every month and would always have us pee in the car park beside/behind our car first before going in for any of the rides. And any time we had to pee while in the park she would have us pee behind those big ass trees or behind rides, if there wasnt any toilet nearby. 

I still do this sometime (tho mostly in water parks) as an adult if I think I can get away with it. The only difference now is that 7 out of 10 times, it isnt a "necessity" like it was when I was a child.

That's great to hear.   In water parks, there is absolutely no need to visit a toilet to pee.   The opportunities are endless.   I also don't think it is just pee fans who bypass the toilets, many others pee anywhere out of convenience.   When I have visited water parks, I have always thought that there are far less people going into the toilets than you would expect for the number of people in the park.   When in the normal theme parks, there are continually people entering the toilets, but in water parks it is far less.    I've said this before, but at Blizzard Beach I saw a young lady reading on a sun lounger.  She got up, went and sat on the sand of the beach, just above the water line with her legs stretched out in front of her and slightly apart, sat there for less than a minute and then went back to her reading.  No prizes for guessing what she was doing and she couldn't have been more obvious unless she squatted and pulled her bikini to the side.

I'm sure many more just pee in the lazy river or on the slides or splash pools.   I know I do and I've even peed whilst standing in queue lines because everything is wet anyway.

My wife also pees in the various pools and lazy rivers at water parks.   She is not into pee, but does it because it is convenient.  At one place we were about to get out of the lazy river but she said "Hang on, I need a wee" and sat in the shallows for a minute before getting out. At others she has just let go whilst in the pools or floating on those inflatable rings.

I have peed on water rides at theme parks - Khali River Rapids at Disney's Animal Kingdom being one.   I got wet anyway, so I just peed on the raft.   Everyone was getting off the ride wet, so nobody was going to be bothered that I had wet trousers.  It was warm there and I soon dried off.

On 12/11/2023 at 8:24 AM, gldenwetgoose said:

If you're here to read about an arousing Pee related programme, this isn't it.  But I would recommend watching this one...    It was incredibly uncomfortable viewing, and a bit of a wake up call.

Last night in the UK, Channel 4 showed a new episode of the documentary '24 Hours In Police Custody' with the episode called 'The Night Prowler'.   The programme is a real life police documentary, filmed in Luton, Bedfordshire with the premise being that under UK law a person arrested on suspicion of having committed a crime can be detained for 24 hours to gather evidence for prosecution.

So, last night's episode featured a young guy who's seen in the opening credits walking through a city at night and making a selfie video of himself talking.  The camera work is very shaky, and in the opening credits is a girl talking 'we're having a wee, will you turn off that torch'....   Instantly of course I pricked my ears up.  Although there isn't really anything visually shown.

Anyway - as soon as the titles have rolled, the programme cuts to the victim and bodycam footage.   An intoxicated lady who's been refused entry into a nightclub, and instead has gone into an alleyway just next to it.  When she emerges she's extremely distressed and the club door staff look after her until police arrive.  She reports that the guy has placed his cock in her mouth.  Using local CCTV police identify the guy entering the alley after her and leaving in a different direction, they then track him and an hour or so later he's arrested on suspicion of rape.

The programme then shows the interviews with him taking place over his 24 hours of detention and in between, police obtaining CCTV footage and clips from his phone.   In interview he starts being completely innocent and upset, but gradually he is shown more footage and in turn admits that he had gone into the alley in the hope of seeing her peeing, and he does get aroused by seeing girls pee.   That opening credit clip was another occurrence from his phone a month earlier where he'd interrupted a couple of girls peeing in an alleyway.

Throughout his detention he is adamant he never placed his cock in her mouth.  He submits very keenly to the DNA tests of clothing and she provides swabs too.  The programme confirms there were traces of 'male DNA' found, but nothing to prove it was his.   However in the video clips from his phone he is quite intrusive - telling the girls they have nice pussies and arses, asking them to show more, refusing to leave or stop looking when they request it, and offering money or weed to them.  He tells this particular lady he has a big cock.

The outcome - and remember this is a real life documentary - is that he admits to having indecent voyeuristic clips on his phone (including an underage girl's photo) but denies the charge of oral rape.  Crown Prosecution Service put the case to court and he was voted guilty of rape by 11 of the 12 jury - and sentenced to 12 years in prison, plus life on the sex offenders' register.

 

Now - the questions that programme raises....   His modus operandi wasn't that much different from the things we may be tempted to do.  Late night city walkabouts where people may be drunk.  Looking in alleyways where he thought girls may be peeing.  Maybe walking innocently, but actually changing direction when seeing a particular person.  He was definitely harassing them, filming with his phone with light on, refusing to leave them and offering money to them.

There was no footage of anything that happened in the alley - CCTV from the streets either side of the time they entered and left the alley - and some of his phone footage shown on the programme of his conversation / dispute with her.  She is clearly peeing and tells him so, only a stream is shown. He tells her he has a big cock, he offers her money or weed, says she's not a prostitute.  It could be there's more shown than was suitable for TV broadcast.  No DNA evidence of his - could the male DNA traces be due to someone kissing her that evening?

He was clearly a predator and disrespectful in the way he treated people, spoke to them and wouldn't respect his victims wishes to leave them.  But from the programme as edited and presented, the evidence of him carrying out that rape was not made apparent.  The police, CPS and jury however were sufficiently convinced.

This is definitely worrying that (as far as we know), he didn't actually commit the crime of oral rape, but the police, jury and court found him guilty.   Also very worrying that just a girl deciding to call the police and make the accusation would be enough to potentially get the person in prison until charged.

There are some other factors in there that need to be considered though - The key one being that his attitude was horrendous and even if he didn't commit oral rape, he did harass the girl significantly.   If a person instead is polite and maybe enjoys the view discretely, then the girl in generally going to either be not bothered about being seen, or will assume that the encounter is an unfortunate result of her decision to pee in public.   The key thing is always to take onboard the feedback of the lady peeing.   i.e. if she is chatty and happy, then she is not too bothered.  If she is trying her best to hide and asks the guy to go away, then the guy absolutely should respect that and move on quickly.

Another factor here is that he filmed her.   That does two things.  Firstly it shows that he was trying to watch her and wanted to retain a record of it and secondly the video provides evidence of the nature of the engagement - i.e. that he was being overbearing in his attitude and downright offensive to the girl and didn't back down when the girl clearly told him to do so.

The girl in this circumstance probably only called the police because of his attitude.  Most women wouldn't call the police after being caught peeing because that would mean they have to admit that they were peeing in public in the first place.  She must have been seriously bothered by the guy in order that she felt the need to report it.

Still, it does all point to the need to be very careful and of course respectful.

Definitely a lovely experience @Sophie and as ever from you - beautifully described.

And I agree it seems pointless putting clothes on to take them again off seconds later.  I also think it doesn't make any sense to use the toilet if you are going in the shower anyway.   Far easier and more enjoyable to just let it happen whilst showering and savour the experience.   My wife isn't into pee, but she still bypasses the toilet if she is going into the shower, just seeing it as a convenient and sensible thing to do, but I get more enjoyment out of seeing it emerge from her and colour the water in the tray than she gets out of doing it.

3 hours ago, Kupar said:

Rachel has previously mentioned that she pees in the shower and has done elsewhere 🙂 

Yes, I've seen that.   She mentioned the peeing in the shower on a lie detector show I believe.  

12 hours ago, embruh said:

The responses to this online was certainly something. Of course a lot of "how could people not hold it a couple hours??" or "why are there no toilets on there??"
I don't think people realise these trains need as much capacity as possible, and every inch of space matters when you're potentially carrying over 1,000 passengers. If the driver only allows one person to go at a time, of course a packed train would encounter this issue.
It's also easy to condemn a situation like this without experiencing it first hand. I guess if it's any consolation, at least it wasn't on the similar Class 720 units, they have a carpeted floor instead lol
Also it's great that they've archived the picture of the puddle, I do wonder what had been discussed on the original thread.

Absolutely if you have a train full of passengers stuck for that long then people are going to pee.   They will either be forced to pee on the floor, probably in view of others unless people hide each other, or they end up wetting themselves, or in this case some people could get down to the tracks courtesy of the driver, but it was a multi coach train and people who weren't near the front were bound to end up peeing on the floor.  I guess some might have had containers that they could use, but certainly not everyone who needed to pee.

I agree with your comments about using every inch of space.   A lot of comments were raised about not having toilets on these trains when they travel quite a distance when the line was being introduced, but the argument was that most people would travel to and from London and very few would travel the full length, so the time on the train would be relatively low and people could plan not to need toilets.  It saved a lot of money in the building of the trains and allowed extra space for passengers on what could be a busy route with packed trains.   Of course all that doesn't count when the train is stranded.     At that point nature takes over and people are going to need to pee one way or another.   Much as I wouldn't want to have been stuck on the train for hours, I would have been quite happy to join those peeing and I would have loved to have seen some ladies struggle with desperation and then give in and pee on the floor.   

I wonder if any also tried to be discrete by wetting themselves onto the seats?   For ladies wearing skirts or dresses, this could be a very feasible possibility to preserve their dignity at the expense of the seat taking a soaking for them.  Even some people wearing trousers might have chosen to wet themselves rather than expose themselves.

Elizabeth line had trains stranded for hours on Thursday due to overhead power line damage.   According to reports, the driver was letting people off the train to pee on the tracks, but some people peed on the train floor.   Rachel Riley and James Blunt were among the stranded passengers.  Would love to have seen if Rachel had to improvise.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trapped-passengers-urinate-train-elizabeth-line-delay-135139414.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMVmcYcnm4Ppa_KaIW614Nau0-KvhE5VVdXyWcxsTdX60OrSOmwLEHc70oUjq9h3WFrZCEjdikWMtRNWfVpvfj_FST6K7mUCblhjIwBfEKbU1SRM-QIbmNbmdWrPzu8jF_scH-dAsi3tOFCMUiLw8vWPIlNE_ikrpm74KKcE1yh7

the peeing even made it into the Guardian:

https://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news/23976984.elizabeth-line-trapped-passengers-urinate-train/

on this Reddit thread it mentions people queuing up to use the loo, “and by loo I mean being let out of the cab to pee on the tracks”

 it mentions that 

Fabulous story @Knockonthedoor.   Loved the setting, the build up, the details, the tied bond of both having to respect and keep each other's secrets, the revelation that they both enjoyed it and the promise between them that more would develop.

Only in as much as putting my hand in puddles left by ladies outside and then maybe licking my hands.  I can't imagine ever being confident enough to go up to a random girl and asking her to let me play with her pee.

@weequeen, I love your attitude to peeing places around the college.  A few people have mentioned peeing in the sinks, but they were mostly in their own rooms - you peeing in the sink in the communal toilet area in front of others takes a higher level of confidence and bravery.  The fact that your actions led to others adopting that method makes it even better.

What gave you the idea of having a dog bed to use as your toilet?  Did others thing it was strange for you to have a dog bed in the room and did they notice it being wet or smelly?

i also love that you peed multiple times on the beanbag in the library in one session.  Did you repeat that on other days once you found it to be convenient?   I have peed in my own beanbag when I had one and it was very enjoyable.

On 11/21/2023 at 2:46 PM, Kupar said:

From 'The Week' magazine recently.

Some would pay extra for that special drink.

On 11/19/2023 at 1:01 PM, Sophie said:

I believe this counts as a geeky nerdy project? Please honk at me @gldenwetgoose if it doesn't!

I am planning on buying a mini lathe in the near future, once I have somewhere suitable to put it really, but I have already started designing parts for it! The very first thing I have designed (and likely needs some tweaking) is a tap follower. For those who do not know, one end of this device goes into the back of the lathe and the pointy bit is spring loaded and goes into the little hole at the back of a tap. This allows me to keep the tap perfectly straight while cutting threads, and the spring means I don't have to constantly wind out the tailstock with every revolution. Super handy!

Here is my design. It's basically a hollow tube with a plunger inside, a sharp tip to go into the tap, a spring at the other end and a cap to stop everything falling out. I might make the body out of aluminium with a brass cap for style points, and I will likely make the tip out of steel just for longevity. There is a small groove cut into the tip to indicate when I have ran out of travel as a reminder to wind in the tailstock a little more. This just fits into the drill chuck (which has the benefit of being able to be used in anything with a drill chuck) but once I get more experienced I might make another with a Morse Taper 2 that fits directly into the tailstock.

If you have made it this far without falling asleep out of sheer boredom, I thank you!

I could make use of that!   It is so easy to go off line when tapping a thread.   I don't have anything fancy.  I just put the tap in the tailstock and rotate the headstock chuck but leave the clamp loose on the tailstock so it slides along as the tap pulls into the work piece.

When I was a lot younger, I stayed a friends house overnight.  I woke up needing to pee.   I was staying in a downstairs room and the toilet was upstairs.  I didn't want to wake everyone up by going upstairs, so I put my dick between the bed and the wall and peed down the wall without knowing what was under the bed.  I presume it just ran down the wall and soaked into the carpet, but nothing was ever said, so I presume I got away with it.

At work, I was working in an office in a different town and I needed somewhere quiet to do some calls.  I went up to another floor that, at the time, was having a move around and there were only a couple of people there.   I of course took a large mug of tea with me.   Part way through, I needed to pee and I figured that this was a chance where I could get away with peeing in the office!   I moved the pedestal under the desk to one side, got my dick out under the desk and peed onto the carpet, then moved the pedestal back to cover it.

Another time I was working at a place we used for storing spare kit, but it was a non manned site apart from a security guard who visited whenever anyone needed to be let in.   The water was switched off and toilets locked.  The only I have posted this before, so short version is that I went into an adjacent room where lots of archive boxes were stored.  It was an old laboratory and had sinks, so I pissed in one of them.  Only as I was peeing I heard a patter and when I finished peeing I opened the cupboard below the sink to find that the u-bend had been removed and I had just peed all over the papers stored in the cupboard.   I needed to pee again later, so I just moved a stack of archive boxes, peed on the carpet and put the boxes back.   I imagine that box soaked up a lot of the pee, but it would probably be years before anyone decided to look in that box again.

In the UK, there is no national law prohibiting public urination.   However, you could potentially be prosecuted for "Outraging public decency", "Criminal Damage", "Exposure" or even being "Drunk and disorderly" depending on the circumstances.  Having said that, some towns have local bylaws which prohibit public urination and unfortunately these are becoming more common.   

If caught peeing in public in a place with a relevant bylaw, the likely penalty is a fine and possibly being presented with a bucket and mop to clean up (yes that does happen - to try and embarrass the person).   If you don't pay the fine, you could go to court, but if you do pay the fine, then that's quick and easy although being an expensive pee.

You can avoid the "Drunk and disorderly" charge easily - just don't get drunk.   Peeing when not drunk can't be charged under that one.

Criminal Damage would be if you were caught peeing on something that is property potentially being damaged by the pee - e.g. if you pee on a carpet or clothing in a store.  

Outraging public decency is quite a difficult one to prove - It needs to be proved that you were doing something which the jury considers to be against minimum standards of public decency (well that will vary depending on the jury!) and must be in a public place with at least two people present.   Apparently it is not a requirement that the two people are actually offended.     In reality unless the two people (which I don't think can include the police) provide their details as witnesses and the jury considers it an outrage then peeing is unlikely to get you in trouble under this one unless you are doing something like peeing on a memorial.

Exposure is only when you deliberately expose your genitals with the intention of causing alarm or distress.  So, to expose them to pee is OK as long as you are not doing that with intent to upset someone.    If you face a corner or are generally hidden then this one definitely wouldn't apply.

15 minutes ago, oliver2 said:

I seem to have gone out for a stroll, emptied my bladder into a little stream in the woods, then gone home & pissed again into the laundry basket before starting the washing machine

You said that as if it were totally outside of your control......  Hope you enjoyed it.   I also peed in the woods this lunchtime, but it was on a pile of fallen leaves rather than a stream.

Big shame that she lost her job over it, but she enjoyed herself first.   I just hope that any references don’t ruin her chances in future.

If she applied to me for a job and I had a reference which said she was sacked for inappropriate behaviour, I would ask what that behaviour was - as different people consider different things inappropriate.    If she admitted what she had done then I would hire her straight away and tell her that I didn’t see that as inappropriate and she would be welcome to do that on my job.

That’s good that you both now know what’s happening.  You know she is watching and enjoying the view rather than being offended and she knows that you are aware of the audience and don’t mind.

Interesting that she knows the other neighbours have seen you peeing - they must have talked about it.   I wonder how those conversations started?  “You’ll never guess what I saw the other day…..” “Oh that? Yeah he does it all the time”.  I wonder whether they have admitted to each other that they enjoy the view?

Maybe you could hint that you wouldn’t object if she returned the favour sometime.

Fantastic instalment @gyrate.   The details are brilliant and the way Feli has changed from being disgusted about peeing on self cleaning surfaces to pissing, spitting and anal where it isn't self cleaning is fabulous.  Thank you.