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@Gnome, I had a female friend, with the same habit, back in the day. We dated, off and on, for about ten years. Her sounds were a huge turn-on.

Her acceptance of my interest, at least at the level of amused tolerance, is very important to me. Of course, enthusiastic embrace of my interest is ideal, but I have only encountered it a few times, in my thankfully long life. But discovering her attitudes and feelings about my fetish is very important to me, every time I meet an attractive woman, just in case our relationship becomes intimate, at some point. And it is always more fun to have casual conversations with women who are aware of, and accept my interests, at least to some degree, so I will not shock or offend them, with a casual re

It occurs to me that her basic anatomy and the amount and location of her pubic hair may influence a woman's decision to wipe, or not, after she pees. If the anatomy of her vulva makes her pee spray a lot, wetting her thighs, and/or her bum, she may end up quite wet, and shaking to remove the dribbles may not be very effective. So her clothing may get wet, when she puts it back on, and depending on what she is wearing, wet spots could be visible, when she leaves the toilet, which could be very embarrassing. Heavy pubic hair, which gets wet, when she pees, could cause similar problems. Shaving

Sounds like a very delicate situation. Be careful!

JMY wrote: "Women in a sense dont have that problem,they can piss like a racehorse forever." Although women don't have prostate problems, they do have other conditions which can limit their abilities to "piss like a racehorse." Repeated and/or severe bladder infections, which are very common in women, can restrict or partially block the urethra, with scar tissue, or similar obstructions, so they may have to push, or bear down hard to get their urine to come out, at all. To compensate for this, they may stop and restart frequently, in order to empty their bladders completely. Their fl

@MrTickle, Very interesting, and to me, unusual experience. I would guess that she was testing your reaction, as you surmised. Many women are much less inhibited about actually doing a sexual activity than they are talking about it. Peesex and water sports are unfortunately not widely accepted, in mainstream society (pun intended), so her reluctance to talk about it is quite understandable. She was a very brave girl to actually try it with you, without asking! You're very fortunate, in my view! Since I am into these activities, I have begged several g.f.'s to do what she did with you

I, too, am male, so the question is not aimed at me, but I have an opinion, from the observer's point of view. I think a high squat, sometimes close to standing, but with knees bent, or flexed, rather than straight or locked, is the naughtiest, sexiest, and most innately feminine, peeing style for a woman, either outdoors, or indoors, using a toilet or urinal. Examples below. If her stream sprays, or goes out of control, and gets her legs wet, it becomes even more erotic, for me, whether she is aiming it with her fingers, or just letting it flow, naturally. What does she

@gldenwetgoose, Great story! Thanks for writing! I love the way the suspense builds, throughout the story. Very interesting to know that Lisa was aware of the photographer's kink, very early in the story. I think this insight is true for many women, but men, myself, especially, are often unaware of the depth of their insight into our interests. Thanks for bringing this out. Dr.P

This problem is probably uncommon or even rare, among younger women, particularly among those who have not given birth, but I think it is quite common in middle-aged and older women. I have heard many complaints from my wife, and women friends about this problem. Weakness of the pelvic floor muscles is usually cited as a common cause, and the Kegel exercises are recommended as a helpful solution. I have felt free to use it in my fictional and non-fictional stories posted on Pee Fans. Although these complaints are anecdotal, non-scientific evidence, there is a significant mainstream (pun i

@very thirsty, I have had similar experiences with one or two of my g.f.'s, associated with drinking. "Lisa's" nectar tasted exceptionally good, when we both had been drinking vodka and tonic.

I am older than most of this group, so my tastes are old fashioned, by comparison. I was born and raised in a very different world, and my tastes reflect my experiences in that world. I am most into watching and listening to women pee in toilets or urinals, either sitting, squatting, or standing, the messier, the better. If they are partially clothed, wearing stockings, and panties slipped to mid thigh, and stretched by their open legs, with a skirt or dress lifted high enough to show the action, that adds to the thrill, for me. Seeing a woman's thighs get wet, with her pee, put

@Louise87, I would also love to hear the other encounter. I'm 80, but still very interested!

@felicia1234: Yes, listening to women pee is one of my favorite things, second only to watching. I also find it fascinating. I have posted some of my experiences here, on this site, several times, beginning in July of 2017. I love trying to guess women's peeing styles (sitting, squatting, standing), their state of urgency, as well as the force and direction of their streams, from their sounds. I also love it if they stop and restart. I have heard many, many more women pee, in real life, than I have had the privilege or good luck to watch. In addition to lovers, and my wife, they include casual

I have posted parts of this experience in other forums on PF, but it seems particularly relevant to this thread. My first pee experience outside of the family, which included my mother, and eventually, my younger sisters, came early in grade school, probably first or second grade. I would guess that I was 7 or 8 years old, at the time. I remember a little girl, with curly hair, who always smelled kind of strange, vaguely like urine. Some of the other kids whispered about her, behind her back. But I did not dislike her smell at all. I sort of liked it, but said nothing to her, or anyone el

LoveLadyPee wrote: "My goodness. I'm sorry. Sounds like you didn't warrant that response. Hope she's changed since then." @LoveLadyPee, Thanks for your kind words. This incident took place many decades ago, and I have lost track with this woman, over the years. We both married other people, and went our separate ways. I have no idea if her attitudes have changed. It is possible that two marriages, and having kids, changed her. My attitudes and curiosities have not changed, but I am happy to say that I have managed to satisfy them with several other, very cooperative women, since that time

"Ellie" Part 6. What Might Have Been: She Shows Me Her Sexiest Peeing Style. By Dr.P Summary: Having shared her harrowing experience attempting to squat, when she had to pee in the restaurant bathroom, on the previous night, she uses our toilet in the hotel to show me how it actually happened, and how she usually does it, very neatly, when she is well prepared. This time, I am there to help her with the cleanup, for both situations. When I return from the conference, in the late afternoon, she is waiting for me, as promised. She kisses me, takes my hand, and leads me into the ba

"Ellie" Part 5. What Might Have Been: The Next Morning. By Dr.P Summary: Our erotic activities and conversations resume on the following day, in Part 5. After our long and exciting first day, we sleep late, wake up in each other's arms, and pee together, in the bathroom, after some very satisfying pee sex, on the toilet, first thing in the morning. I wake up slowly, after a good night of sleep. I don't have to be at the conference until afternoon, so we have plenty of time. We are still intertwined, as we have been, all night. Her legs are wrapped around one of mine, with her na

@Gotah, While I respect your decision to end this thread, I must say that I am very sorry to see it go. You have created some fascinating characters, in complicated and interesting situations. I can see many directions in which they might go, without being repetitious. I will miss them! Thanks for a truly enjoyable series of very well crafted stories, in which I always looked forward to the next episode. I hope for a sequel, at some point. Dr. P.

I have already posted my first, earliest pee memories here, so I won't repeat them. But here is another, that I remembered very recently. This one is from my younger years, although by no means my first. It took place when I was in my last year of high school, probably 17 or 18 years old, and was working half-time in a furniture store, as a truck driver's helper and part time janitor. It was a family business, and one middle-aged, but attractive woman worked there, in sales. She was not part of the family. The store had a single-user bathroom for the use of the customers and employees.

"Ellie" What Might Have Been: Part 4. Our First Night Together. More of Her "Wet" Secrets Revealed. By Dr.P Summary: We go back to the room, and continue the alternative scenario of our relationship, as it might have been, if I had revealed my interest in her peeing to her, as I did, in the fictional Part 2. She invites me to watch her pee, up close and personal, sitting down, in her usual style, which I actually saw, partly obstructed by the bathroom door, in Part 1.She shows me how her pee stream changes character and direction, getting different parts of her wet, each time her pee

"Ellie" Part 3. What Might Have Been: A Romantic Dinner with a "Wet" Interlude. By Dr. P Summary: After our very intimate conversation, during our drive to the restaurant, we have a nice, romantic dinner, as described briefly, in Part 2. She completes it with a trip to the Ladies' room, followed by an extremely erotic, detailed account of the challenges faced by a woman trying to take a very urgent pee in a facility which is less than pristine. She shares the most intimate details of her experience with me, when she returns to our table. This incident expands our conversation into ne

@luv2watch, I had similar experiences, 30 or more years ago, but I noticed that times were changing, for the worse, unfortunately. Now, I appreciate the fact that I was working during a very liberated and fun time. I looked forward to working every day, because of the opportunities for fun, flirtations, and risque conversations, which would probably not be possible, today.

@luv2watch, "The concept of watching old women pee is erotic because they grew up in a more repressed era when women were much more private and more easily embarrassed about peeing in front of men." I totally agree with you, on that. Having grown up in a more repressed era makes their preferred peeing styles very interesting, often more shy and modest. And their clothing may also influence their peeing styles, and make them even more erotic. (Classic nylon stockings, under skirts and dresses, etc.) "Although she is not on my " want to see pee list',, I sometimes wondered what wo

@Adenn, You are very fortunate! Thanks for posting, and welcome!

@UnabashedUser, "Oh just have to love a girl like that! Her backstory would have fired the imagination for a long time." Yes, it has fired my imagination, for many years. Unfortunately, I never asked her about her backstory, which seems strange to me, now. I have no idea why I didn't, since she answered all of my other intimate questions about her peeing, with no hesitation, or apparent embarrassment. Did I fear bad consequences, or was I just inhibited, or stupid? My experience with her was my first openly "wet," physically interactive experience with an adult woman, other than my w