don't leave without saying goodbye

[lordofcoatham1 179]

for those of you who will maybe no longer be visiting here once the watersports censorship begins please let the rest of us know if you are online elsewhere, it will be sad to see this community disperse, it is upseting how many great posts and people will soon be vanishing, if you do decide to go, I wish you all the very best, it has been a pleasure knowing you.

[steve25805 126,156]

Following discussions between mods and Admin, other solutions are going to be sought that do not involve the banning of pee content. Please bear with us. As of this moment, no pee content is being lost, and no ban on pee content of any kind is in place. There is no need to leave yet, and hopefully will not be.

[periodlover 35]

Are there any tech savvy people here that would consider setting up a site like this for menstruation? 

I would do it but dont have the knowledge needed to set up & run a sight like this.  

Fingers crossed that there is someone out there who could do this for those of us who have a menstruation fetish as well as a pee fetish.

[lordofcoatham1 179]

i dont have any intention to leave, even if the censorshiip did happen its still well within my realm of interest, maybes this thread is a kneejerk reaction to events as they stood at the time last night, it was just so people who are jumping ship could keep in touch.

[Scot_Lover 1,878]

So what happened this time? Things are a little slow in the colonies, does some have a link I can read up on it?

Is this another update of the one bought in last year? (I think)

I'll not be leaving either, not by a long shot.

Can we charter a bank? Cater for anyone who wants to look at naughty things?

[Sephora 2,372]

The topic caught my attention, however, i am confused about what is going on. Can someone fill me in please?

[P-Spud 1,352]

Yes. I'd like to know what this is about too.

 

[Admin 14,791]

He was referring to an announcement that I made prior to this: 

 

[steve25805 126,156]

1 hour ago, Sephora said:

The topic caught my attention, however, i am confused about what is going on. Can someone fill me in please?

I will give a brief rundown.

Credit card companies have, at the behest of censorious governments, agreed not to process payments for certain types of material. This includes anything to do with scat/shitting, menstruation, diapers, and people peeing on each other or drinking pee. This forum was flying under the radar for a time, until someone aggrieved at one of their videos being uploaded reported us to our payment processor, which banned us. Admin then paid a significant sum to use another processor, but they have the same restrictions, laid down by the credit card companies they rely upon.

Of course, this is censorship by the back door, and it is serious. Because if the forum cannot process payments, it cannot pay for itself. In the long run, this means that unless it were to become a hobby for a wealthy pee enthusiast who can afford to run it out of his own pocket, the forum's days will be numbered. It has to at least pay for itself.

This potentially means having to conform to these restrictions and ban all mention of golden showers which would be devastating for a pee forum. Or find a way around the restrictions, or a funding model that does not involve members paying anything for premium membership or anything like that. Advertising maybe?

At the moment the site is running without restrictions at the cost of no payments of any kind being processed. This cannot continue in the medium term, let alone the long term. Somehow we need a solution to this, and Admin is thinking about other options. He will keep us informed.

One thing is clear, it is easy to see why Peesearch does it the way it does. It does not charge directly for Gold membership, and openly boasts about not charging members for anything and saying that it never will. Yet Gold membership there and access to the gallery archives is freely given to all members of cx1, a porn channel only accessible on the Peesearch home page which itself contains no content that offends against credit card company restrictions. Clever

 

[F.W 5,734]

This is the only pee community i know of.So many lovely people.I hope everyone sticks around.

[Sephora 2,372]

I do find it too bad to read this news, most people here are friendly and have no bad intensions and for some, it's a comfort place to ask questions and information which you cannot find. Which is the main reason why I came here in the first place, my questions got answered which when came time to practice this fetish, i knew what to not eat and drink, and many other useful information.

i really hope the owner will find a solution to keep this place running.

[steve25805 126,156]

20 minutes ago, fannywatcher said:

This is the only pee community i know of.So many lovely people.I hope everyone sticks around.

Well, since my top interest involves girls peeing in naughty places and another is highly public peeing - neither of which would be directly hit by the ban - if watersports were banned I would remain a mod and active member. But I like golden showers too and would miss that content. 

And my big fear is that all those members for whom this is a major - indeed the main - interest will be tempted to look elsewhere. Our main rival - Peesearch - has always managed to allow such content, and would blow us out of the water insofar as attracting members mainly into golden showers is concerned.

Indeed it is ironic that in this forum's earliest days many here - not least myself - were critical of peesearch for being overly censorious. We now risk being substantially more censorious than them, which is not a good place to be in terms of attracting and retaining members.

And although watersports is the biggie, there will also be members who might find the forum less attractive with some of the other adult content being banned too.

I myself am ceasing to update my pics of the day until I can be sure which ones can continue and which - if necessary - might have to be deleted.

In the near future, Admin will let us all know what is what.

[Admin 14,791]

6 minutes ago, Sephora said:

I do find it too bad to read this news, most people here are friendly and have no bad intensions and for some, it's a comfort place to ask questions and information which you cannot find. Which is the main reason why I came here in the first place, my questions got answered which when came time to practice this fetish, i knew what to not eat and drink, and many other useful information.

i really hope the owner will find a solution to keep this place running.

I have no plans to shut the site down or to sell it. That is simply not in the cards. The biggest thing is that I did  a lot of work and spent a lot of money trying to get the site to where it is now, only to find out that we can't process payments because of some of the content that we have. I am exploring other options, but it's not a desperate situation. During this process I also learned that Scat, Menstruation, and AB/DL are pretty much universally frowned upon and may actually be illegal in many jurisdictions, which is why I want to get rid of those. I don't want to draw in unwanted attention or make it easier for people to cause issues for us. 

[P-Spud 1,352]

1 hour ago, Admin said:

I have no plans to shut the site down or to sell it. That is simply not in the cards. The biggest thing is that I did  a lot of work and spent a lot of money trying to get the site to where it is now, only to find out that we can't process payments because of some of the content that we have. I am exploring other options, but it's not a desperate situation. During this process I also learned that Scat, Menstruation, and AB/DL are pretty much universally frowned upon and may actually be illegal in many jurisdictions, which is why I want to get rid of those. I don't want to draw in unwanted attention or make it easier for people to cause issues for us. 

I would hate to lose the scat material. Even if it went though, I'd stick. Is Paypal under the same umbrella as the credit cards? How about international money orders, or even cash?

 

[WantonLee 861]

Has this something to do with where the site is hosted, where the person lives who hosts this site, or where the person lives/has his bank-account who gets any money?

If mere location is the problem, that should be solvable... .

 

Apart dfrom that: I would be totally fine with adds. I do think though that this site is not frequented enough so that adds would pay off... .
 

[Brutus 2,206]

@steve25805

And here comes government shutting shit down. People usually laugh when I say freedom is an illusion. But how about a payment system that is officially for something else but has this forum as an add on? Or maybe a token system where members pay admin and are given tokens to access the forum? How about a third party to serve as a middle man? You pay them a flat fee and they pay the credit card companies on your behalf. Consult an attorney to find a loophole in the credit card terms you can exploit. Or sidestep credit cards altogether and let members pay from checking accounts. Or employ all of these tactics simultaneously to varying degrees with some advertising. Lack of ads is a rarity on websites anymore and this forum being ad free gives it a last of a dying breed special feel but I would tolerate ads to preserve this forum in its pure form. Admin has probably considered all of this but I feel that as members we have a duty to help derive a solution.

[P-Spud 1,352]

I've used international money orders very effectively in the past. Any reason that they wouldn't work?