Can you 'get rid' of a pee fetish?

[Admin 14,791]

Do you think it's possible to eradicate or at least reduce the intensity of a pee fetish (or indeed any fetish for that matter)? Or is it hardwired, always there?

I wonder if by indulging in it (even if just looking at pictures/videos etc) it is simply strengthening it further and forming a habit, and whether abstinence would therefore do the opposite.

Of course there is nothing wrong with having these fetishes, but in some cases I imagine it can negatively impact people's lives, and become too much of a focus rather than just an extra kink.

[Sephora 2,372]

10 minutes ago, Admin said:

Do you think it's possible to eradicate or at least reduce the intensity of a pee fetish (or indeed any fetish for that matter)? Or is it hardwired, always there?

I wonder if by indulging in it (even if just looking at pictures/videos etc) it is simply strengthening it further and forming a habit, and whether abstinence would therefore do the opposite.

Of course there is nothing wrong with having these fetishes, but in some cases I imagine it can negatively impact people's lives, and become too much of a focus rather than just an extra kink.

I spoke to my husband about it and he told me he had a pee fetish since his teens. I don't see him living with out.

[WantonLee 861]

I don't think iot's possible to get rid of any fetish.

Though, if there's a way, let me know - I'm interested.

[Admin 14,791]

56 minutes ago, WantonLee said:

I don't think iot's possible to get rid of any fetish.

Though, if there's a way, let me know - I'm interested.

If it were as easy as switching it off, I wonder how many people here would choose to do so...?

[Scot_Lover 1,878]

I think you can learn to live without it. When we were first married, the pee aspect was so intense it was like we couldn't do anything without it, and when Mary moved in a year later, it started all over again. We are now coming up to 13 years together, moved house 3 times (hopefully, never again) and while the fetish is still there, we don't do it as much anymore. 

We still look at it online, pics and movies, still talk about it, still get turned on by it, but it just doesn't seem as 'important' anymore, get what I mean? We still have the odd random pee session, the unexpectedness of them when it happens makes it special, and there are a few times where we've actually planned a night with excellent results all round. While they are fun, it just seems that we really didn't need to go to the effort. We will never give it up completely, the 3 of us just being with each other is more than enough. Pee sex will always be with us, just not all the time.

[spywareonya 37,962]

4 hours ago, Admin said:

Do you think it's possible to eradicate or at least reduce the intensity of a pee fetish (or indeed any fetish for that matter)? Or is it hardwired, always there?

I wonder if by indulging in it (even if just looking at pictures/videos etc) it is simply strengthening it further and forming a habit, and whether abstinence would therefore do the opposite.

Of course there is nothing wrong with having these fetishes, but in some cases I imagine it can negatively impact people's lives, and become too much of a focus rather than just an extra kink.

Fetish and perversion are two different things

a perversion is when a class of desire becomes the hole through which anguishes and problems found expulsion

is not safe, and can be diminished by eliminating the original problem that chose the fetish as its puppet

a fetish which is not a perversion is a desire that is not used by an uncoscious problem as a puppet, thus is not destructive

this is very important: a powerful twisted desire and a DESTRUCTIVELY powerful twisted desire are NOT one and the same, NOR they aimply are the envenomed form of one another: no family car reaches 300mph no matter how much you push it; if it does, it was NOT a family car in first place

if a fetish is too invasive, then maybe it is used as a puppet by a problem: the enemy is not the fetish, is the problem which is using it

if a fetish is just an enrichment of sex life, trying to eliminate it would be actively WRONG: the original fracture in people's psyche (the one called by scientists "pre/post-genital catastrophe"), which is the source of ALL human problems, racism, sexism, ALL paranoias and phobias, ALL psychosomatic illness, violence, envy, rape, stalking, war, imagine something signaling our difference from a happy child, name it is it DUE to that, was born between 6 months and 2 years of age, because our unconscious absorbed our parent's unconscious embarass toward the totality of carnal experience. We feel unconsciously wrong putting all things in our mouth, our feeling pleasure when we poop, so we add this info to our unconscious and slowly become repressed. We do not feel how much traumas this unleash, but it works this way.

We must, as a race, as Society advances, surpass all of this and return to be, as a race, pan-fetishists.

A fetish must be kept under control only if it turns out to be a puppet of an anguish, like when a lesbian is not really a lesbian (personal experiences, I've fucked many) and indeed is only secretely traumatized by a bad relationship with her abusive father, making her to unconsciously hate men

in this case, the problem is not  the fetish: its invasiveness comes from it being "possessed", and what must be solved is the problem, and the fetish will stop being that invasive

all other thoughts are anti-human at core: we are born, built by Nature, to explore using all five senses at once, to touch and understand existence: all manifestations of physical and psychical activities are safe in themselves, and acting against them, or simply failing to realize their inherent holiness, is against the human race, is against THE HUMAN on an archetypical level; scientists all knoes that. You know I have powerful friends in private circles and they all confirmed me, the DSM (the book of psychological illness list to be clear) is 99% built on Health Insurances and other economical operations and there is little scientifical about it, indeed guess what? evey year it changes, and misteriously, it changes along the most common cases… strange, isn't it?

True psychiatrists knows better, and they told me what I wrote in the beginning of the post. Humans are inherently stealth creatures: none of us is built to be clumsy, even less psychologically. When a desire misfires, it is not the desire in itself which is the problem, is what we hide behind it. Sometimes is just embarass and repression: sometimes is a more complex disorder, and true psychiatrists explore THIS.

 

[Scot_Lover 1,878]

30 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

Fetish and perversion are two different things

a perversion is when a class of desire becomes the hole through which anguishes and problems found expulsion

is not safe, and can be diminished by eliminating the original problem that chose the fetish as its puppet

a fetish which is not a perversion is a desire that is not used by an uncoscious problem as a puppet, thus is not destructive

this is very important: a powerful twisted desire and a DESTRUCTIVELY powerful twisted desire are NOT one and the same, NOR they aimply are the envenomed form of one another: no family car reaches 300mph no matter how much you push it; if it does, it was NOT a family car in first place

if a fetish is too invasive, then maybe it is used as a puppet by a problem: the enemy is not the fetish, is the problem which is using it

if a fetish is just an enrichment of sex life, trying to eliminate it would be actively WRONG: the original fracture in people's psyche (the one called by scientists "pre/post-genital catastrophe"), which is the source of ALL human problems, racism, sexism, ALL paranoias and phobias, ALL psychosomatic illness, violence, envy, rape, stalking, war, imagine something signaling our difference from a happy child, name it is it DUE to that, was born between 6 months and 2 years of age, because our unconscious absorbed our parent's unconscious embarass toward the totality of carnal experience. We feel unconsciously wrong putting all things in our mouth, our feeling pleasure when we poop, so we add this info to our unconscious and slowly become repressed. We do not feel how much traumas this unleash, but it works this way.

We must, as a race, as Society advances, surpass all of this and return to be, as a race, pan-fetishists.

A fetish must be kept under control only if it turns out to be a puppet of an anguish, like when a lesbian is not really a lesbian (personal experiences, I've fucked many) and indeed is only secretely traumatized by a bad relationship with her abusive father, making her to unconsciously hate men

in this case, the problem is not  the fetish: its invasiveness comes from it being "possessed", and what must be solved is the problem, and the fetish will stop being that invasive

all other thoughts are anti-human at core: we are born, built by Nature, to explore using all five senses at once, to touch and understand existence: all manifestations of physical and psychical activities are safe in themselves, and acting against them, or simply failing to realize their inherent holiness, is against the human race, is against THE HUMAN on an archetypical level; scientists all knoes that. You know I have powerful friends in private circles and they all confirmed me, the DSM (the book of psychological illness list to be clear) is 99% built on Health Insurances and other economical operations and there is little scientifical about it, indeed guess what? evey year it changes, and misteriously, it changes along the most common cases… strange, isn't it?

True psychiatrists knows better, and they told me what I wrote in the beginning of the post. Humans are inherently stealth creatures: none of us is built to be clumsy, even less psychologically. When a desire misfires, it is not the desire in itself which is the problem, is what we hide behind it. Sometimes is just embarass and repression: sometimes is a more complex disorder, and true psychiatrists explore THIS.

 

This is outstanding, love the way you explain everything so clearly, and with feelings from your heart. 

Thank you.

[spywareonya 37,962]

14 hours ago, Scot_Lover said:

This is outstanding, love the way you explain everything so clearly, and with feelings from your heart. 

Thank you.

It is the real reason I am here and the reason I exist

To explain people that 99% of what had been described to us a wrong is indeed right, and we are not bad persons, we are GOOD persons, because we enjoy it!!!

[F.W 5,734]

I would think its a part of you,like why some prefer sugar or not in their tea etc.It would probably require psychiatry to establish WHY you have this liking,and thus maybe it could be winkled out of you...

I certainly would like to be analysed as to why i like to watch girls urinate.Obviously,it must go beyond the purely sexual,or else i would be content with seeing just nakedness.I know ive had it since birth it seems to me,i cant remember a time when i wasnt fascinated by it.The nature of fetishes must be deep in our psyches,why do some people like to pretend to be babies?Or find womens feet alone can cause orgasm?No,i think whatever fetish you have develops for whatever reason early in life.

[Brutus 2,206]

I don't believe you can get rid of a fetish. I do believe that it can be repressed to the point where you almost forget from day to day that it's in you. It also depends on how strong the fetish is to you. I have many fetishes, but a lot of them have faded over the years because I stopped indulging them to a high degree, for whatever reason. They are still there though and every so often I go searching for them online like revisiting an old friend. I would say that my pee fetish has become stronger since being on this forum, simply because prior to finding it, I had no one to discuss it with, so the human interaction has added to it. Also, I didn't write pee fiction prior to being here, and that has fueled it as well. So just like anything else, the more you indulge something, the bigger part of your psyche it occupies.

I know that if I were to leave the forum and stop writing pee stories, and stop viewing pee porn online, that it would become less of a fetish over time, which I have considered doing because frankly, as much as I enjoy pee, I' find myself tiring of how much it's on my mind lately. It seems to be crossing over into obsession territory for me, and I don't like that. So maybe for some people at least, they turn their focus elsewhere out of a perceived need to prioritize their lives, and their fetishes weaken to the point where they feel they can return to it without being controlled by it. But as I said, I believe that once it's in you, it's not leaving. Hearing a woman pee will always get my heart rate up.

[steve25805 126,156]

I don't think it is possible to get rid of the fetish. It is part of you and you are best off learning to accept it. You can choose not to act upon it but it will always be there.

It is not something that can be switched off. It can only be repressed. But this is not psychologically healthy. Because when someone becomes so averse to any impulse that they repress it to the point where they consciously no longer accept it is part of themselves, what tends to happen is that they react very aggressively and angrily against any manifestation of the fetish from anyone anywhere. They become on the surface highly negative about it to an utterly excessive and potentially dangerous extent, because what they are really reacting against is a repressed - consciously unacceptable - impulse buried deep within themselves.

It is the same mechanism that makes closet homosexuals some of the worst and most overt violent homophobes. Anyone with repressed desires within themselves which they cannot consciously accept, will often react very aggressively and excessively to any manifestation of such desires in others.

So since we cannot simply switch off our fetish, it is far better to learn to accept it than to repress it, because repression is far less healthy.

The extent to which someone experiences our - or any other - fetish does vary though. For some it is just an occasional extra part of their sex life to spice things up a bit and not a central part of it. There may well be other sexual activities they enjoy more most of the time. For others it is the main thing and a favourite activity, but still perhaps not essential. And for still others it is so central to their sexual psyche that they find sex without the fetish dull. They need the fetish to get off.

The latter are to a large extent slaves of the fetish, they need it for sexual pleasure. And cards on the table, I myself fall into that category. Sex  itself without pee does not interest me that much. Yet I can get off with pee even without sex.

People like me for whom the fetish has become central and necessary to get off - more erotically important than sex itself - are often referred to by psychologists as paraphiliacs. We need the fetish to function sexually.

I know I cannot possibly get rid of it. I could learn to keep it hidden, and not act upon it with others if I chose, though in that case I would probably choose a celibate existence because sex would be dull without it. But I cannot make it not be a part of me.

[Brutus 2,206]

7 hours ago, steve25805 said:

I know I cannot possibly get rid of it. I could learn to keep it hidden, and not act upon it with others if I chose, though in that case I would probably choose a celibate existence because sex would be dull without it. But I cannot make it not be a part of me.

I'm wondering, do you wish that this fetish didn't have such a hold of you? I myself wouldn't want to be that dependent upon any fetish, to the point of not being able to enjoy sex without it. You could try abstinence from sex for a few months to see if it makes you able to enjoy the good old feeling of a woman's body against yours. Maybe after some time away, it might be fresh enough and reignite your ability to enjoy sex with no need for pee play to get you in the mood.

Of course, this is assuming you would want this to change.

[steve25805 126,156]

15 hours ago, Brutus said:

I'm wondering, do you wish that this fetish didn't have such a hold of you?

There was a time I might in part have  wished that. Or to be more accurate, just wished I could have switched it off and on at will so it was still there when I wanted to enjoy it but could otherwise be absent from myself.

But to be honest now I have gotten used to the way things are and like it this way. I no longer yearn for love and am a committed singleton and loner. I tend to befriend female companions rather than fucking them, and don't want the whole relationship thing.

A friends with benefits type scenario with a lady who shares some measure of interest in pee is all I really aspire to. And until or unless that happens I am happy to make do with porn, my imagination, and Little Miss Lefthand.

[Scot_Lover 1,878]

I don't think we ever wanted not having it, like we didn't want to do it at all.

There have been some instances where the planning has fell to bits, everyone was peeing battery acid and no matter how good you felt at the time, there are limits to what you can stand. After a couple of 'this is so bad' comments, you just give up, get in the shower and clean up. Last weekend was the last time we fooled about, started as a random wetting thing and quickly escalated to a mutually agreeable ending. I've asked when we are going to do it again (based on this thread, to see what happens) and all I get is 'meh' or 'whenever'. The three of us being happy together seems more solid than trying to fix something that isn't broken. 

Can you get to a point where the once intense fetish takes a back seat in your life? We know we can do it anytime, and we also know that we will enjoy the moment, but we don't need pee to make some magic happen. Someone walking about the house wearing tiny knickers and a midi tee shirt is enough for 2 of us, lol.

[Brutus 2,206]

On 8/2/2018 at 7:05 AM, steve25805 said:

There was a time I might in part have  wished that. Or to be more accurate, just wished I could have switched it off and on at will so it was still there when I wanted to enjoy it but could otherwise be absent from myself.

But to be honest now I have gotten used to the way things are and like it this way. I no longer yearn for love and am a committed singleton and loner. I tend to befriend female companions rather than fucking them, and don't want the whole relationship thing.

A friends with benefits type scenario with a lady who shares some measure of interest in pee is all I really aspire to. And until or unless that happens I am happy to make do with porn, my imagination, and Little Miss Lefthand.

Much respect. It takes immense inner strength and self actualization to willingly remain alone, and forego sexual intimacy. A path few men choose to walk.

Edited August 3, 2018 by Brutus

[PissDude 479]

I'm not sure how or why I'd want to get rid of it, even if I have to keep it to myself. Having to piss is part of being human, and somehow I came to associate that with pleasure, at least, when I'm alone and on the Intenet. I tried to communicate that to my ex-wife, but she used that against me. I haven't tried to talk to my second wife about it. But when I'm alone and have to take a leak, and looking at pictures and videos of girls relieving themselves, it's awesome to me.

[spywareonya 37,962]

None of us should

Pissing is one of the holiest thing ever stumbled across by humans

We should empower our fetish, not relinquish it!