Something that's always bothering me

[Athargia 15]

This seems like the appropriate place to discuss this, but a huge problem I have is the shear amount of people that down talk people with pee fetishes.
We all know our fetish isn't exactly the most..clean or common of the bunch, but there are far worse out there and in my opinion pee isn't actually that bad.
I don't know how many of you have ever heard of the Facebook group page called "The Lad Bible" or "Unilad" but they often do pages about the what girls/guys get the kick out of most, and there is a LOT of fucked up fetishes in there, including things like scat, vomit blood play, bestiality and even necrophiliac fetishes included in these stats. And from looking at the comments, I've noticed many people down talking on watersports, and it really pisses me off to no end, we're all entitled to our opinion, sure thing, however, of all the really fucked up things people are into, they choose to shit talk watersports and bully people who are into it.

Same with people I know in my real life. Some of them know what I'm into and they think it's the most disgusting thing to ever happen, even though they are into weirder things like shoe sniffing. why? What's so bad about it. I'm sick of feeling singled out and weird, if you ask me pee play is so mild. Yet people treat it likes it's the most sickening thing to ever do

[new2this 128]

Yeah, well, people suck.  This is the world we live in, where we can't talk about sex and divulging fetishes is weird.  I agree with you, obviously, but I think it's best you stop caring so much about what others think.  In fact I think that's good advice for life. 

[Athargia 15]

I agree, however, it gets to a certain point where so many people shit talk you about it you can't help but feel horrible.

[F.W 5,735]

When you see some fetishes,i reckon peeing is very tame.People who eat other peoples poo,sorry but EWWWWW!Or people who enjoy having needles pushed into their penis,yes,this is a fetish.Peeing is nothing.

[LPee23 35]

I've been posting about pee fetish stuff regularly on two of the largest mainstream porn forms, PornUsers (pornusers.com) and AdultDvdTalk (forum.adultdvdtalk.com). No one ever gave me a hard time on PU, but then again PU is probably the most civilized porn forum out there. I did have to deal with a few trolls when I started posting on ADT, but they are long gone now, and people seem to accept it there. 

That is too bad about "The Lad Bible." You would think people had better things to do with their time. 

[likesToLick 10,235]

I once saw a "serious" interview with Billy Connolly, where he talked about why he had dyed his beard purple.  He called it an "arsehole detector."   His point of view was that if someone would dismiss or nag him because his beard was purple,  then that person was an arsehole, and so Billy would no longer care about his opinion on anything, or waste any more time on him.

This looks like a good way to handle such things to me.  If someone has nothing better to do with their life than to diss your enjoyment of watersports, then BZZZZT! - arsehole detected! Ignore from now on.

 

P.S.  This message is not to be interpreted as down talking anyone with an arsehole fetish .  Rimming a nice lady is delicious

 

 

[new2this 128]

On 1/29/2017 at 2:36 AM, fannywatcher said:

When you see some fetishes,i reckon peeing is very tame.People who eat other peoples poo,sorry but EWWWWW!Or people who enjoy having needles pushed into their penis,yes,this is a fetish.Peeing is nothing.

Yes, let's all talk about how great our fetishes are, but shit on other peoples, because that's totally what this thread is about.

[Scot_Lover 1,881]

On 30 January 2017 at 9:00 PM, new2this said:

Yes, let's all talk about how great our fetishes are, but shit on other peoples, because that's totally what this thread is about.

Lol, keep it cool, we are not bashing how weird other people's things are, everyone gets off on something no matter how awful it comes over to you. This was an attempt to pass on how other people view our fetish, not that I tell other people though. My estranged sister knows, but no one else that I'm close to has any idea. My 2 ladies have kept this completely  seperate from their normal lives, even at home we can be 'normal' for weeks at a time, then something incredible will happen. 

We did did participate in a university study that we were invited to attend, we were approached while attending Sexpo  one year (Google the Aussie version), and told the poor girl everything. She just blinked and wrote it all down, never said a word, lol.

Do we really need to care what other people think?

[lugia 228]

Hi Athargia,

I think it's good that you're railing against the people who would look down upon you for y(our) particular fetish, in this thread.  If I were to divulge something of that nature, even anonymously, I'd care what other people think because of how personal it is.  At the same time, however, I'd keep this truth at the forefront of my mind: fetishes are weird by definition. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones- any dickweed who presumes to look down on the pee fetish can just as easily be ridiculed for his own weird obsession (and if he doesn't have one, he's in the minority- guaranteed). The fact of the matter is, there's no moral high ground here. The penis likes what it likes. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional, and is probably also the type of person to sit at Dairy Queen ripping on everyone who buys unusual ice cream flavors.

If you consider it in that light, suddenly the insults lose their sting.

[new2this 128]

On 1/31/2017 at 4:33 PM, Scot_Lover said:

we are not bashing how weird other people's things are

Hmmm...

On 1/29/2017 at 2:36 AM, fannywatcher said:

people who eat other peoples poo,sorry but EWWWWW!

Looks like we are, actually.

[Scot_Lover 1,881]

Lol, just trying to get the thread back on topic, things can go "off" so quickly.

[Brutus 2,212]

Some things to consider are: 1) the majority of the population is stupid beyond repair. These same people that talk down to us are the same ones who can't even name the mayor of their city or what rights they are entitled to by law. Yet they know everything about the most popular celebrities and the latest memes on Facebook or Twitter. A similar situation is the whole dogs vs cats debate. I like both but have a cat and it's pleasant to be around, she just chills out and minds her business. Yet I have friends that are normal people but would burn kittens alive if given the chance, having this visceral murderous hate of cats for no other reason than "I don't know, I just hate cats." As soon as I point out that owners and kids are often killed by dogs and not cats, their brain damn near explodes with anger and defending dogs' often lethal attacks, even when they're trained. People are fucking stupid. Even on this forum, I've seen members acting almighty on fellow members for being into a different form of the fetish, like seriously, are you kidding me? Shut the hell up, and find a different thread.

2) The media teaches us what to like to a large degree, and most people never even think about this or why they like certain things. In the 50's, curvy women were desired. Marilyn Monroe. Then the media started promoting Twiggy and suddenly, bone thin, starving looking women were desired. Now it's back to curvy again, with women seeking butt implants to be curvy. Then the porn industry said pubes are nasty, now pubes are suddenly akin to the plague and women actually are self conscious about the shape of their labia and will actually get surgery to have them chopped off. Total fucking nonsense and I am waiting for the world to snap out of this insanity that the media creates. My point here is that pee fetishes have never been promoted by the media, so people are programmed to think it's weird. Ass and tits, however, are promoted and are the biggest fetishes ever, accepted as commonplace without ridicule and openly celebrated.

3) People like to feel accepted by the dominant group. As a result, a lot of people just jump on bandwagons and accept the general popular perspective as their own. Like "oh, bottled water is better? Yeah I agree, it's totally awesome and I'll pay again for something that I already pay for, because it's just better, that's a fact."

People are fucking stupid. So let them talk shit all they want to. Their narrow minded outlooks will not stop death from claiming them one day, so just don't be affected by these wastes of skin. 

[Sephora 2,372]

On March 2, 2017 at 8:28 PM, Brutus said:

Some things to consider are: 1) the majority of the population is stupid beyond repair. These same people that talk down to us are the same ones who can't even name the mayor of their city or what rights they are entitled to by law. Yet they know everything about the most popular celebrities and the latest memes on Facebook or Twitter. A similar situation is the whole dogs vs cats debate. I like both but have a cat and it's pleasant to be around, she just chills out and minds her business. Yet I have friends that are normal people but would burn kittens alive if given the chance, having this visceral murderous hate of cats for no other reason than "I don't know, I just hate cats." As soon as I point out that owners and kids are often killed by dogs and not cats, their brain damn near explodes with anger and defending dogs' often lethal attacks, even when they're trained. People are fucking stupid. Even on this forum, I've seen members acting almighty on fellow members for being into a different form of the fetish, like seriously, are you kidding me? Shut the hell up, and find a different thread.

2) The media teaches us what to like to a large degree, and most people never even think about this or why they like certain things. In the 50's, curvy women were desired. Marilyn Monroe. Then the media started promoting Twiggy and suddenly, bone thin, starving looking women were desired. Now it's back to curvy again, with women seeking butt implants to be curvy. Then the porn industry said pubes are nasty, now pubes are suddenly akin to the plague and women actually are self conscious about the shape of their labia and will actually get surgery to have them chopped off. Total fucking nonsense and I am waiting for the world to snap out of this insanity that the media creates. My point here is that pee fetishes have never been promoted by the media, so people are programmed to think it's weird. Ass and tits, however, are promoted and are the biggest fetishes ever, accepted as commonplace without ridicule and openly celebrated.

3) People like to feel accepted by the dominant group. As a result, a lot of people just jump on bandwagons and accept the general popular perspective as their own. Like "oh, bottled water is better? Yeah I agree, it's totally awesome and I'll pay again for something that I already pay for, because it's just better, that's a fact."

People are fucking stupid. So let them talk shit all they want to. Their narrow minded outlooks will not stop death from claiming them one day, so just don't be affected by these wastes of skin. 

I must agree with you at 100% on this, about people being stupid. Everyone is getting judged for whatever they like. Don't say that you smoke pot, media says its a bad thing ect..  Smoking pot is common. Same thing goes for peeing, golden showers, there is nothing bad about urine. People talk bad about it because they are affraid of getting judged. In my surrounding, there was a girl that brought up that subject, saying that urine is bad for you and will give you health problems. Some people are so ignorant as the claim they know everything. So told her that urine doesn't cause health problems at all and 95% is based on water and its steril. Trust me, at the quantity of pee my BF drank, i think we would of seen side effects already.

As for poo, that is just not for me and its full of germs and can cause health problems. For me it's out of a question, and for other weird sex such as with animals and dead people, there must be something really wrong with the person to do that. There is a doctor/psychotherapist on a daily radio talk show who talked about peeing and said to the people to wake up and do their researches and for the one's that are too lazy, urine is pefectly safe unless there is infection. The number of callers that afterwards was facinating as most who called shared their experiences or had questions about it. There was only 1 that called and there was something wrong with people. When the doctor said that he once tried it, does that make him strange?  She never replied and avoided the question.

It goes to show that some people are misinformed.

[Brutus 2,212]

42 minutes ago, Sephora said:

I must agree with you at 100% on this, about people being stupid. Everyone is getting judged for whatever they like. Don't say that you smoke pot, media says its a bad thing ect..  Smoking pot is common. Same thing goes for peeing, golden showers, there is nothing bad about urine. People talk bad about it because they are affraid of getting judged. In my surrounding, there was a girl that brought up that subject, saying that urine is bad for you and will give you health problems. Some people are so ignorant as the claim they know everything. So told her that urine doesn't cause health problems at all and 95% is based on water and its steril. Trust me, at the quantity of pee my BF drank, i think we would of seen side effects already.

As for poo, that is just not for me and its full of germs and can cause health problems. For me it's out of a question, and for other weird sex such as with animals and dead people, there must be something really wrong with the person to do that. There is a doctor/psychotherapist on a daily radio talk show who talked about peeing and said to the people to wake up and do their researches and for the one's that are too lazy, urine is pefectly safe unless there is infection. The number of callers that afterwards was facinating as most who called shared their experiences or had questions about it. There was only 1 that called and there was something wrong with people. When the doctor said that he once tried it, does that make him strange?  She never replied and avoided the question.

It goes to show that some people are misinformed.

Kissing is probably more unhygienic than pee. The human mouth has worse bacteria than urine. Yet everyone loves kissing. Not saying pee is wonderful. I doubt anyone could lick some piss from a toilet without getting sick, as it does collect nasty bacteria after leaving the body. It is still bodily waste so I can understand it being gross to people but it seems like everyone assumes that pee fetishists drink piss like its coffee. Having the fetish doesnt always mean you want to drink it. I like watching and hearing women pee and would like to be peed on but i dont want to drink it. Same with poo, I like watching but would not eat it, ever. Non fetishists never make this distinction.

[Sephora 2,372]

15 minutes ago, Brutus said:

Kissing is probably more unhygienic than pee. The human mouth has worse bacteria than urine. Yet everyone loves kissing. Not saying pee is wonderful. I doubt anyone could lick some piss from a toilet without getting sick, as it does collect nasty bacteria after leaving the body. It is still bodily waste so I can understand it being gross to people but it seems like everyone assumes that pee fetishists drink piss like its coffee. Having the fetish doesnt always mean you want to drink it. I like watching and hearing women pee and would like to be peed on but i dont want to drink it. Same with poo, I like watching but would not eat it, ever. Non fetishists never make this distinction.

My bf is in the same boat, he likes to watch and drink from time to time. Seeing him going about it makes it sexy and a turn on. I don't think he would drink it like coffee, you need to be in a mood for golden showers or watching someone pee.

[steve25805 126,992]

I once knew a twisted bitch (because she lived in the same building) who got off on watching not only extreme S&M but vids showing the simulated rape and strangulation-murder of women, and who fantasised about torturing to death people she didn't like in brutal ways. She hung out with violent criminal types and thugs, to whom she was invariably attracted, and also made money by working as a prostitute selling sex. I ended up having to report her to the police.......but I digress.

Point is, she knew a guy who wanted her to piss on him and said she told him to fuck off. Stupid thing is that whilst she admitted herself that she was into some weird stuff, she described him as being into something "a LOT worse", just because he asked her to give him a golden shower.

How anyone can possibly think that peeing on someone who wants to be peed on is a lot worse than the sort of shit she was into, fuck knows! But a vocal few people do think like that about pee fetishism sadly. They think we are right up there with necrophiliacs, paedophiles, bestiality freaks, and torture/murderers. It is why the vast majority of us are in the closet about our fetish with most people in real life.

Only a few of course think of us in such extreme ways. But they are out there. To anyone with an understanding of psychology, it is actually pretty obvious that someone with such an extreme dislike of us is probably a pee fetishist in denial themselves, and "projecting" their own unacceptable (to them) desires onto us in order to attack them. On some level subconsciously, they are really attacking something they cannot accept about themselves. Extreme over the top hatred of this kind often masks that sort of thing. Probably made to feel highly guilty and the dirtiest piece of shit ever, by their mum, when they wet the bed too often as a kid, or something like that, lol.

[likesToLick 10,235]

5 hours ago, steve25805 said:

Probably made to feel highly guilty and the dirtiest piece of shit ever, by their mum, when they wet the bed too often as a kid, or something like that, lol.

It's surprising how many people are suffering permanent damage from their life experiences.  Even someone who outwardly looks privileged and successful in life can be carrying heavy mental scars.

 

[Brutus 2,212]

9 hours ago, steve25805 said:

I once knew a twisted bitch (because she lived in the same building) who got off on watching not only extreme S&M but vids showing the simulated rape and strangulation-murder of women, and who fantasised about torturing to death people she didn't like in brutal ways. She hung out with violent criminal types and thugs, to whom she was invariably attracted, and also made money by working as a prostitute selling sex. I ended up having to report her to the police.......but I digress.

Point is, she knew a guy who wanted her to piss on him and said she told him to fuck off. Stupid thing is that whilst she admitted herself that she was into some weird stuff, she described him as being into something "a LOT worse", just because he asked her to give him a golden shower.

How anyone can possibly think that peeing on someone who wants to be peed on is a lot worse than the sort of shit she was into, fuck knows! But a vocal few people do think like that about pee fetishism sadly. They think we are right up there with necrophiliacs, paedophiles, bestiality freaks, and torture/murderers. It is why the vast majority of us are in the closet about our fetish with most people in real life.

Only a few of course think of us in such extreme ways. But they are out there. To anyone with an understanding of psychology, it is actually pretty obvious that someone with such an extreme dislike of us is probably a pee fetishist in denial themselves, and "projecting" their own unacceptable (to them) desires onto us in order to attack them. On some level subconsciously, they are really attacking something they cannot accept about themselves. Extreme over the top hatred of this kind often masks that sort of thing. Probably made to feel highly guilty and the dirtiest piece of shit ever, by their mum, when they wet the bed too often as a kid, or something like that, lol.

Quite possible. Either she was masking her own interest in it by attacking it or wasn't necessarily into it but needed something to attack to make herself feel some level of normalcy amid all of her twisted fantasies. Projecting her own self hate on whoever she can. The things she was into were probably already making her feel like an outcast, especially combined with being a prostitute. Or, maybe she was drugged out of her mind and just has random drug fueled outbursts too.

[steve25805 126,992]

57 minutes ago, Brutus said:

Quite possible. Either she was masking her own interest in it by attacking it or wasn't necessarily into it but needed something to attack to make herself feel some level of normalcy amid all of her twisted fantasies. Projecting her own self hate on whoever she can. The things she was into were probably already making her feel like an outcast, especially combined with being a prostitute. Or, maybe she was drugged out of her mind and just has random drug fueled outbursts too.

Oh, you've hit the nail on the head with that one. She WAS a serious druggie and was often hyped up on amphetamines, aka speed.

It is because of the tendency of this drug to - amongst other things - induce a great desire to talk incessantly about anything, that she gave away so much about her darker nature. That, in combination with the fact that she built what little self esteem she had on a self image of being a mean bitch capable of anything, whom no one messed with.

Though in reality she was a bit of a sad case, albeit probably potentially dangerous.

Actually....this is going wildly off topic but perhaps worth mentioning - the fictional character in my Wild Girl Diaries thread - whom I've always said is loosely based upon someone I used to know - is based upon her. The same wild, couldn't-give-a-shit attitude about anything or anyone, the same anything goes attitude, the same penchant for getting a kick out of totally outrageous behaviour without giving a fuck, the same offering of sexual services for cash, the same starring in amateur porn videos for private collections.

But with my fictional character, I have almost totally shifted the main sexual interest away from all the darker shit and onto pissing, downplayed the drug abuse and put more emphasis on alcohol consumption, and in terms of friends and acquaintances, moved away from violent criminal thug types onto people involved in the sex industry.

Works much better that way as naughty peeing erotica.

But the character in those stories is otherwise similar to that disturbing female I once knew.

[Scot_Lover 1,881]

The thing is, when we do this in the privacy of our house (even the backyard is private) it is a good thing. We have fun with it, never used to show dominance, or to put anyone down, just a loving experience we all enjoy. The change that happens in a normally quiet and shy girl has to be seen to be believed, she tells us that she loves doing this because of this change. It releases something inside her (her words, best she can explain it). The day after one of our sodden sessions, Mary even told us the she embarrasses herself, lol. We just gave her a hug and told her we love it.

In our situation, how can something so good be made out to be so bad? 

[Brutus 2,212]

Quiet reserved women with wild sexual urges that only come out when she's with a man she loves is my dream woman. It makes it so much more special to be the one that cracked her open and found this goldmine of love and passion that no one else knew about. I worked with girl like this a while ago. She was a loner and only spoke when necessary and was starting to get a little flirtatious with me. We both have different jobs now and lost contact but dammit I knew she had something special for someone to find. I even told her that and she just smiled and looked at me. I wanted her bad and wonder maybe, just maybe she had a pee fetish.

But I guess it's all relative. What seems so good to one is awful to another. Like music. Very subjective.