Am I a bad influence?

[Alfresco 11,631]

So, following something that happened a short while ago (details below) I'm wondering whether I'm a bad influence on my wife, or maybe it is a good influence in opening her mind, but for a long time she would never pee outside unless absolutely desperate and there was not other option, nobody anywhere in the vicinity and no chance of being caught.

Over time, she has peed outside a few times, mostly for my benefit, but sometimes because she was really desperate, but her criteria for seclusion, whilst still being there, is getting a little more relaxed.  However, she has never peed outside on her own when I've not been there to (a) appreciate it and (b) keep watch.

Now, the reason that I'm thinking that I may have been an influence is that a short while ago she came home and told me of something that happened whilst she was out.   She had been looking after a friend's baby and they had gone to a park.  The baby was asleep in the pram and Mrs A was sitting on a bench whilst the baby slept.   She really needed to pee and there were toilets in the park, but they were at the opposite side of the park and she was worried that moving the pram would disturb the baby's sleep and wake her up.  She also was concerned that she couldn't take the pram into the cubicle with her because there wasn't room.   So, she started considering other options - which she would never have previously done.   She told me that she was working out how she could sit on the grass and put a blanket over her and then slip down her trousers and pee into the grass.   Now bear in mind that this is an open area of a public park with a good few people around and some quite close, this would have been a step which would never have entered her head previously.   She would never consider peeing in such an open position, or consider her options for being discrete about it.   

Unfortunately the story doesn't have the ending that I would have hoped for it as whilst she was summoning up the courage to follow through with her plan (and she was nearly there), the baby woke up, so the situation changed and she was able to head across to the toilets.

I told her that I was impressed that she was even considering it and that I would definitely recommend her do it again in the future.   I also suggested that she could consider wearing a skirt or dress which would make the whole thing very easy indeed.   

[Burnzie 149]

I would say good influence, no harm done whatsoever in expanding someone's mind and interests. Especially if she got their on her own and you were not forcing her perspective or actions. 👌👍

[glad1 2,832]

Consider yourself an influence for the good. I'm sure those countless times you've offered her encouragement as well led by example have helped change her attitude and behavior.

[tatstatsort 264]

Hi Alfresco

Given what we have written about over the years, you and I have wives with exact feelings about an (pardon me) alfresco wee.

I feel it is a good thing but i understand some feelings of guilt you might have over it. Overall, i think it is good and you and I and our wives mutually benefit.

We have been together for just over 10 years now and got married in 2021. 

It was not until our minimoon right after we got married did she wee outside in front me. A long walk through Elan Valley, it was secluded, she needed wee and knew I wanted her to pee outside as I had encouraged her before. Numerous occasions she would complain of needing a wee, we would be somewhere off the beaten track but she would never do it through fear of being caught. She figured well, I might as well and with some hesitation, stepped off the path behind a small rock and weed very openly and exposed much to my shock and awe (and admiration). It ticked a lot of boxes for us both as she confessed she felt liberated by doing so, it made the rest of the walk comfortable for her and it aroused me immensely!

Later that year on the drive to Scotland for our actual honeymoon, a sudden closure before some motorway services sent us on the country roads through Lowland Scotland towards Edinburgh. That denied her a toilet for a badly needed wee. She joked that a layby might be in order but she was holding out for a petrol station or something. Eventually, she succumbed to her desperation and after I relieved myself at the side of the road, she jumped out and pissed on the grassy kerb... and was caught by a passing car we did not spot. Her greatest fear made manifest yet this car came and went and she was still peeing for all to see, not caring because she was so desperate. I think if she had not broken the seal of the experience before, it may not have happened. 

With these experiences, she is a lot more relaxed about it. She still wants to be discreet and ideally not get caught but will be open for a wee if she really does need it.

The following year (2022) I've seen a significant increase. In Devon, she weed amongst some sand dunes on a bike ride and for my 30th she let me film her having a wee on a secluded part of a beach.

Most recently on a trip to Iceland where we drove around the circumference of Iceland, actual toilets were very scarce and she had a wee in some quite open locations in the middle of the day. In the car park of a scarcely visited tourist site, at the edge of a golf course set within a glacial canyon and in a lay-by of the main ring road. The first of the 3 needed some encouragement but the 3rd one in the lay-by she did all at her own behest. She told me to stop the car in the next lay by because she needed a wee. She got out and instead of climbing over a higher rocky bank overlooking the lay-by and out of view... she turned to face me, dropped her jeans, squatted and had a very long wee next to the car. This would have been visible to any persons driving by and she did not hesitate.

 

In conclusion, our encouragement has opened a previously closed door. We get to witness and benefit from the action but for the sake of comfort and convenience, they are more open to consider other options. My wife will still defer to the option of a toilet if it's within reach but now, instead of complaining of needing to wee and there being no options, she will find somewhere and do it with enthusiasm.

There is guilt in the innocence lost but overall, it benefits us more individually and as a couple that they will.

(Some of these incidents are documented in more detail in former posts of mine. Feel free to visit my profile and have a read)

 

 

[tatstatsort 264]

One of the stories above elaborated upon

[Overlord 451]

In my opinion it's only positive to encourage our beloved Ladies to pee more loose outside. What's the harm? Men do it all the time, so why shouldn't women do it as well?

We need to lift this dome of public shame and accusation of being immoral and dirty when women pee outside.

Edited July 5, 2023 by Overlord

[Overlord 451]

2 minutes ago, MonsterKane46 said:

agreed.... the topic has come up a few times in conversation with female workmates... reaction is always the same ... ewww gross.... unless alcohol is involved 

This I've never quite understood. Why is it ok for men to whip out their dicks wherever they want and piss up a rainbow and everyone seems to be more or less fine with it, but if a girl pulls down her pants and pees in public its gross and indecent?

[D-K 154]

6 hours ago, Overlord said:

In my opinion it's only positive to encourage our beloved Ladies to pee more loose outside. What's the harm? Men do it all the time, so why shouldn't women do it as well?

We need to lift this dome of public shame and accusation of being immoral and dirty when women pee outside.

I agree. The world would be a much better place if as many girls peed outside as guys do. 😋

[Alfresco 11,631]

@tatstatsort, Yes we both have very similar situations.   As for feeling guilty, I actually don't feel guilty at all.   I may have given that impression in my first post on the thread, but I was just saying that some people might think that it was a bad influence to encourage my wife to pee outside.   Personally I think it is totally natural and if my wife (or any other lady for that matter) gets past the stigma about peeing outside, they can make their life a lot easier and more comfortable.  

17 hours ago, tatstatsort said:

Her greatest fear made manifest yet this car came and went and she was still peeing for all to see, not caring because she was so desperate.

This was a positive experience for your wife.   Before having this experience, her worst fear was being spotted.  However, having been spotted by a passing car she has now probably realised that someone seeing her doesn't impact on her at all and they have passed by and she will never see them again so there is no big deal.   I can fully understand that people are worried about being caught and it is a bigger fear that someone walking past might see as they would have the potential for interacting and possibly chastising the person peeing.   My argument to that as long as you pick a suitable place then you can have enough advance warning of someone walking towards you and that even if someone complains at you (and I have experienced that), then you still don't know them and once they have passed by, they are gone.

In lots of cases, particularly where you are not near open toilets, peeing outside makes life a lot better. 

 - You save time by not deviating from your route to find a toilet,
- Once stopped, you save time again because it is literally the time it takes to pee, instead of the much longer time it takes to leave the car, walk across to the toilets and go through the rigmarole of dealing with cubicles and flushing and so on.   
- It is cleaner because you don't have to touch cubicle doors, deal with dirty toilet seats etc.
- It is convenient because once you are used to it, you really don't have to think too much about it and just can pee pretty much anywhere.
- You are more comfortable.   You don't need to hold for ages with a painful bladder whilst searching for a toilet.

So all in all, it makes sense to encourage people to pee outside.

[Starks2010 2,197]

I would not say you were a bad influence. You just opened her eyes that it is okay to handle her business and it’s better than being uncomfortable, whether it’s so desperate to pee that you are miserable or because you wet your clothes and now have to wear them. 

[gldenwetgoose 21,487]

9 hours ago, MonsterKane46 said:

agreed.... the topic has come up a few times in conversation with female workmates... reaction is always the same ... ewww gross.... unless alcohol is involved 

 

9 hours ago, Overlord said:

This I've never quite understood. Why is it ok for men to whip out their dicks wherever they want and piss up a rainbow and everyone seems to be more or less fine with it, but if a girl pulls down her pants and pees in public its gross and indecent?

I'm actually going to suggest maybe there's a completely different interpretation from the one you're considering there.

I know there may be some knuckle dragging guys who think it's perfectly alright for them to get drunk and piss proudly wherever they want whilst hypocritically judging anyone non-male who may need to pee.  But they don't count, at least not in my argument here.

You're talking about conversations with female workmates - and personally I don't know any ladies who would consider male peeing acceptable whilst female peeing gross.   Sure there may be ladies who don't mind a sneaky peek at a guy's cock, but that doesn't mean they would encourage guys to do it at the same as hating and being abusive to the girls.

Actually, I tend to think that the 'ewww gross' reaction from the ladies isn't a personal judgement on the people who pee at all but is a personal view about what they think when they put themselves in the situation of peeing in a cold draughty alleyway, splashing their feet and legs with pee, not having toilet paper to dry off and not having soap to wash their hands.  Then the thought of pulling up underwear which will inevitably get damp from the dribbles and splashes, and then will feel cold and wet.   A million miles from the mental image we have or the picture painted by the amazing small subset of ladies celebrated on this site.

So I really don't imagine female colleagues having the double standards as suggested - but just that their first hand experience and judgement is around their own views if they were in the position of peeing outdoors.