Woman to woman piss standing tips?

[ukpeegirl86 3,031]

I've been trying to teach myself to piss standing and I've reached a wall, so to speak. Sadly my stream is running down one leg and not jet washing the wall as I'd like it to. 

Earlier on I pissed on my hallway carpet with no clothing on my bottom half. I leaned my back on the wall and dropped only slightly to a high squat with my legs wide open. This was successful with my stream going a good 4 feet in front of me, watering the wall and the carpet. I used my fingers to guide my stream. 

I tried later on the kitchen floor with my knickers and leggings down to my knees, in a standing position with my legs apart, again using my fingers to part my lips and guide my stream. It didn't work though and having really needed to go I ended up peeing a torrent all over my knickers, leggings and feet. I couldn't even stop peeing. I just helplessly let it run down my legs and flood my clothes and the floor.

Where am I going wrong? Is my anatomy just not cut out for weeing standing up?

 

 

[Eliminature 5,209]

First of all, "is my anatomy just not cut out for weeing standing up?" is not a mentality that will help at all. You need to completely disregard that notion and tell yourself that it is possible - you've managed it at least once after all.

From what I read, it sounds like you have only tried it a few times. In which case you need a LOT more practice. This needs fine tuning and requires a lot of patience. It can't be rushed. Think of it like learning to play an instrument. It won't happen overnight and there are no easy shortcuts. You have to put the practice in.

Ditch the leggings for now and just work on familiarising yourself with your angle of stream and how you need to place your fingers in order to make the stream go forward neatly. This will take time. What is the angle your stream produces? Do two hands work best, or just one? You'll notice that I use two - I can't make it work with just one. Can you use your hands to make the stream go higher or lower? Does it splatter (if it does, you are pointing your urethra too high)? When you have familiarised yourself with the stream and how you need to hold yourself (as always, don't rush), then try introducing a pair of knickers and pulling them aside to go through the leg hole. This was how I managed to pee standing again after a long hiatus after being bullied into sitting. Spend plenty of time familiarising yourself with each stage. Accept that you might get the odd spot on your clothes, remember that it's no big deal. Even guys drip when they pee standing.

When you are well practised with peeing standing wearing underwear, then try it with clothes. In my personal opinion, a skirt or a dress is a good idea if you want to pee standing up outside of the home. If you do drip or make a mistake, it will go directly between your legs, not in your clothes. Accept that peeing directly through the fly zipper of jeans probably won't happen - in 19 years of peeing standing, I've never been able to do it.

When I get paid, I will be purchasing some more leggings and adapting them to have a fly that is easier for female anatomy to use. That may help you.

One last thing - do those pelvic floor exercises. You need a pelvic floor of steel for this!

Keep trying. Don't get discouraged.

[Bacardi 10,133]

It took me a loooooooooong time to learn how to pee standing up effortlessly. I started off in the shower and had some added practice at the dumpster outside of my old job. It takes a combination of aim, stance, and, most importantly, strength of your stream. I can really only do it completely bottomless, with my legs spread wide and my knees slightly bent. Idk. Practice makes perfect! Once you learn there's really no going back lol. I really only can do it in the shower now though. All that training wasted lol. Good luck! I believe in you.

[Eliminature 5,209]

11 hours ago, Girllikespee said:

You really need to spread your lips and pull up to make your pee stream out! Watch some videos and practice.

Precisely this. Pull your vulva forward and upward and spread your labia. 

[yellowii 238]

  

16 hours ago, Girllikespee said:

Watch some videos and practice.

Not a woman, but here's a half hour long documentary/instructional of advice from women:

https://www.erome.com/a/b4jZf0cS

Edited October 21, 2020 by yellowii

[brucejedi 76]

On 10/20/2020 at 7:43 PM, Eliminature said:

First of all, "is my anatomy just not cut out for weeing standing up?" is not a mentality that will help at all. You need to completely disregard that notion and tell yourself that it is possible - you've managed it at least once after all.[...]

I wonder if in fact many, perhaps most, women will not master the art of peeing standing up, even with training. While there are plenty of videos illustrating success, perhaps they represent a skewed sample? People might be more apt to post their successful attempts over their unsuccessful ones, and folks that try and repeatedly fail might never post. Even some women quite devoted to this--Nerdy_Faery, for instance--seem to wet their clothes, their legs, or the floor more often than not (although in her case, doing so might be part of the fun, leading to less-than-whole-hearted attempts). Elsewhere I've read that variation in women's natural stream affects the difficulty level quite a bit, with a naturally forward-facing stream being easier to direct into a receptacle than a naturally downward-facing one (and the latter being much more common).

It also seems that nearly all women who do master it indicate they first need to shed all their clothes from the waist down, I assume because of stray drips. You can see such drips in the vast majority of clips posted (when the camera zooms in close enough to see). And in every clip I've seen where the woman attempts it in pulled-down jeans or through the fly of men's underwear, her clothes end up splattered, often soaked. All this leads me to wonder if the norm of women sitting down (or squatting) is not a cultural artifact, but derives rather from the extreme difficulty most women would experience in attempting to pee neatly while standing. In other words, I wonder if ukpeegirl86's situation is more the norm, even after training: a successful attempt only now and again. Consider an analogy: I cannot currently dunk a basketball--I'm too short. If I trained really hard, I might possibly manage to get the ball over the rim, sometimes, but I doubt I could do this consistently or gracefully.

This is not to discourage anyone from trying to master the art (or to imply any inherent inferiority). Perhaps Eliminature's advice is right on target: don't assume you're not cut out for peeing while standing until you've given it your all. But isn't it possible that for many, perhaps most women, it's not in the cards?

[Eliminature 5,209]

7 hours ago, brucejedi said:

I wonder if in fact many, perhaps most, women will not master the art of peeing standing up, even with training.

Not so. I can do it perfectly well and there is nothing particularly special about me or my female anatomy. Moreover, I do this every day of my life. This is not a one off just for likes on the internet.

 

Edited October 22, 2020 by Eliminature
Adding the photograph

[Eliminature 5,209]

7 hours ago, brucejedi said:

It also seems that nearly all women who do master it indicate they first need to shed all their clothes from the waist down, I assume because of stray drips. You can see such drips in the vast majority of clips posted (when the camera zooms in close enough to see). And in every clip I've seen where the woman attempts it in pulled-down jeans or through the fly of men's underwear, her clothes end up splattered, often soaked. All this leads me to wonder if the norm of women sitting down (or squatting) is not a cultural artifact, but derives rather from the extreme difficulty most women would experience in attempting to pee neatly while standing. 

Nope. This is due to to women's trousers generally being modelled on men's. Women's jeans have a tiny fly which is quite clearly an imitation of the much longer fly on men's jeans. Therefore, manufacturers don't expect women to be standing up to pee and they don't cater for it. In other words, women are taught to pee sitting as children and society gives them no other choice. Women must pee sitting because society demands it. 

I say eff that!

[oliver2 4,418]

33 minutes ago, Eliminature said:

Women's jeans have a tiny fly which is quite clearly an imitation of the much longer fly on men's jeans.

“Design is how it works” - Steve Jobs

[Eliminature 5,209]

Also, don't very young males need to pull down their lower clothing and underwear before they graduate to keeping them up? It seems like a logical step for the sex that thry call fairer, too. Even more so since trousers aren't generally designed with women peeing standing in mind. 

Note, I don't have children. I'm only going on memories of what my male friends did when I was a kid, but that was more years ago than I care to remember. I could be wrong about that.

[Ms. Tito 2,396]

12 hours ago, Eliminature said:

Nope. This is due to to women's trousers generally being modelled on men's. Women's jeans have a tiny fly which is quite clearly an imitation of the much longer fly on men's jeans. Therefore, manufacturers don't expect women to be standing up to pee and they don't cater for it. In other words, women are taught to pee sitting as children and society gives them no other choice. Women must pee sitting because society demands it. 

I say eff that!

Yeah! Time to tear down the system!

[yellowii 238]

5 hours ago, Ms. Tito said:

Yeah! Time to tear down the system!

What should we do?  Are existing women's zipper flies but longer the best option, or should we have those like the one Eliminature seamstressed together?  Or another option? 

[RitaPinturas 11]

On 10/22/2020 at 11:02 AM, Eliminature said:

Nope. This is due to to women's trousers generally being modelled on men's. Women's jeans have a tiny fly which is quite clearly an imitation of the much longer fly on men's jeans. Therefore, manufacturers don't expect women to be standing up to pee and they don't cater for it. In other words, women are taught to pee sitting as children and society gives them no other choice. Women must pee sitting because society demands it. 

I say eff that!

What do people think of this more female-friendly fly? https://eliraapparel.com/

[RitaPinturas 11]

On 10/21/2020 at 1:57 PM, yellowii said:

  

Not a woman, but here's a half hour long documentary/instructional of advice from women:

https://www.erome.com/a/b4jZf0cS

That seems legit - thanks for sharing!

[Kupar 13,339]

16 hours ago, RitaPinturas said:

What do people think of this more female-friendly fly? https://eliraapparel.com/

Well - those clothes seem interesting (if not designed for standing-up wees), and I would have thought would appeal to some of the ladies on here, but expensive!

Edited March 30, 2021 by Kupar
clarity

[yellowii 238]

22 hours ago, Kupar said:

Well - those clothes seem interesting (if not designed for standing-up wees), and I would have thought would appeal to some of the ladies on here, but expensive!

https://www.amazon.com/FlyEscapades-Crotchelss-Zipper-Crotch-Leggings

These were cheaper but it looks like they're out. 

[Ftmsoftboi 1]

Not a super cheap option, but super quality and not obvious they are bought for the use of standing to pee with a vagina:

Male Prana Zion fitted climbing pants

They look like light-weight feminine cargo pants, are insanely stretchy like leggings, and durable. The crotch zipper is low enough I just lower the waist to mid butt and then have more than adequate room.

[yellowii 238]

6 hours ago, Ftmsoftboi said:

Not a super cheap option, but super quality and not obvious they are bought for the use of standing to pee with a vagina:

Male Prana Zion fitted climbing pants

They look like light-weight feminine cargo pants, are insanely stretchy like leggings, and durable. The crotch zipper is low enough I just lower the waist to mid butt and then have more than adequate room.

It's great that there's an option for the ftm out there!  Have you had the chance to pee into a urinal with them? 

[Paulypeeps 5,287]

I recall in the '70s there was a fashion for the zips on women's shorts to start right around the back. Was there some practical design in this rather than just fashion? Only ever saw them in magazines though.