Is this cheating?

[Ponme 202]

Let me explain the situation, where I work, there's a beautiful girl that works in the office, and I work for the maintenance company. The beautiful yound lady always pee's down the hallway bathroom. Once i went in the next bahroom which I was able to listen to her pee. Wow, the sound is quite impressive and when she left the washroom, i entered to go see this single toilet bathroom which, after closer inspection, there was pee all over the seat, so I licked the seat. I have been doing it 5 days a week or almost a month.

A friend found out what I like doing, he never said anything about it except he asked me if I thought it was considered cheating on my girlfriend.

Ahhh  I never really thought about it and its difficult to give an answer. Perhaps this fetish is blind me.

What do you guys think?

[Scot_Lover 1,872]

Grey area, very murky. This is my ladies take on it.

Does your gf share your pee fetish? If she does, how would she feel if you were imbibing from someone else? I knew a girl, a family friend, who was a full on lesbian. For this reason, my ladies let me hang out with her, stayed at her apartment, that kind of thing. I ended it when she got a little too familiar, plopping on potty while I was in the bathroom, walking about naked, very nice, but it didn't feel right. 

Just think on the hurt you could cause if she finds out.

[Sephora 2,372]

Ohhhh noo ponme, don't, this is not good if she finds out.. just like Steve said. Please be careful if you don't want to lose her. You know how hard it is to find someone special you already have to share this with. Also, think if ever you get caught at work, it can change a life. Be careful my friend.

[F.W 5,725]

Totally understand the piss licking.But i think yes its borderline cheating,beacuse youre getting sexual thrill directly from another girl,as opposed to pornography,which is a grey area,but not as bad.

[spywareonya 37,961]

@Ponme

 

Ok Pon, first of all, I need to notify you that since I am a Witch, my conception of cheating si different than usual

That said, I think that according to common sense, it is, since you practiced an act which grants you sexual gratification while you girlfriend was at home suspecting nothing

 

That said, ME MYSELF AND I have a different point of view

In my opinion you di not cheated on her, as it is normal for men to crave every woman, sexually appealing ones even more

I think you should talk to yourself

The only thing you really betrayed is the emotional contract you built with your girlfriend

Theorically this means it IS cheating

But is only because you did not chose which kind of man you wanna be

If you wanna be a man that consider infidelity as cheating, ok, then on the logical deductive stance you cheated on her

If you chose that granted-fidelity means nothing and that you have to earn your girlfriend's fidelity through other means unless she can do what he wants (and you either) then it's not cheating anymore

In my spiritual current, sex is free, both of the couple can have sex with whoever they want, both men and women alike, and indeed they should, the only "fidelity" that can be added is the one that binds the woman to her man, preventing her from having sex with other men, if he rised to a demigod status in her own opinion, through some great deeds (that is what ahappened between me and Alex, that's why we both "hunt" for girls!!! He's straight and I'm bisex)

For you, according to a Mathematical application of your current offical cocnept of relationship, it's cheating

You got sexual satisfaction with a flesh and blood person, this is much different than wanking with porn

But this is only applied to the theory

To me, you did not: but now that you tasted a broader world, you have to understand that a world with less limitations needs more honour from the very individual. It's time to make your couple to grow up.

[Brutus 2,193]

I don't consider this cheating and here's why,

You derived enjoyment of a sexual nature from the fluids of another woman, as opposed to directly interacting with her. You have not had physical or emotional contact with her, plus this woman is not aware or knowingly participating in your sexual enjoyment of her pee, so I consider it no more cheating than admiring a coworker from afar and never acting on it. As a man you are attracted to good looking women, it's natural, it's what nature designed us to do. But remember every time you're out and see a hot random woman that you know you would enjoy having sex with, you keep your admiration of her to yourself, simple as that. Now is licking her pee from the seat taking it a step further? Sure but still, you are not interacting with the woman herself in any way, so in my view, her pee is too far removed from actual contact to call it cheating. Your girlfriend probably would consider it cheating, or at least betrayal to a degree, but this is similar to peaking at another woman in public while you're with her. You know that you're not going to hit on her, and are just admiring a great body, but she will never see it that way, and will think you want that woman instead. There is research about how most people, men and women admit that they would cheat on their partner if they knew they wouldn't get caught. So from that you could conclude that people just decide to hold back in most cases and admire others without acting. And chances are, your girlfriend looks at other men from time to time as well, with no intention of cheating, but just admiring an attractive man, nothing more. Even married women often enjoy some light flirting when their husbands aren't around. 

All this ranting was to make the point that as long as you are not actually pursuing this other woman, than I argue it's not cheating. Now if you ever take this a step further and make a move on her, that is certainly betrayal to your partner. Even if she rejects you, you intended to cheat. So I would say just keep it under control and don't let it cross that line into pursuit.

And as a side caution, you may want to reconsider licking the seat anyway. Say she farts while peeing, microscopic fecal matter could be on the seat waiting with nasty bacteria. Not to mention the other asses that may touch the seat. This woman may contract an std at some point, or may already have one, and some diseases can spread if you lick the toilet seat after she sprayed all over it. STD's are getting worse these days, many are becoming resistant to antibiotics, and there is a new necrotic flesh eating one emerging that eats your genitals off. The news has been quiet about that one. Imagine that in your mouth. And consider that you may spread anything you catch to your girlfriend. That's a far worse offense.

Careful. 

Edited September 7, 2018 by Brutus

[spywareonya 37,961]

8 minutes ago, Brutus said:

pursuing this other woman

I appreciated all your thread but I have to ask

Isn't it "cheating" infringing the self-accepted limitation never to have pleasure from anything beside your girlfriend and eventually fantasies/porn?

[Scot_Lover 1,872]

Mmmm something in what Brutus said. 

Are you sure it's her pee? What happens if she walks into the bathroom, sees someone else's mess and doesn't touch it. Just does the hovering thing that ladies do so well. My ladies always make comments on the state of toilet seats, things like "not even with someone else's bum" 

As Brutus said, just be careful.

[spywareonya 37,961]

16 minutes ago, Scot_Lover said:

As Brutus said, just be careful

Agree utterly

[Brutus 2,193]

3 hours ago, spywareonya said:

I appreciated all your thread but I have to ask

Isn't it "cheating" infringing the self-accepted limitation never to have pleasure from anything beside your girlfriend and eventually fantasies/porn?

Well yes but that self-accepted limitation is social conditioning. No one person can fully satisfy our desires, but we are taught to entrust one person with such a burden, and most often, the 2 involved are left dissatisfied with each other, at least sometimes. If one cannot even have fantasies, just because they are with someone, that is unreasonable. How far is the other person's loyalty obligation? Say one person constantly refuses intimacy. This abuses the other's sacrifice and is a different form of cheating, although rarely recognized. If you place your fulfillment upon me at the expense of ignoring everyone else and all other forms of pleasure, then you have a right to expect that I meet your desires in return 80 percent of the time because you have no other outlets. Now say I deprive you for months, years even. I've cheated on your loyalty by disrespecting your intimacy needs. Another thing is the word pleasure. Where is the line drawn? Say you are hetero and enjoy talking to a coworker of the opposite sex and become friends. Is this enough pleasure to qualify as cheating? So that's why I say it's not cheating up until the point of emotional or physical connection. Light flirt and fantasy are reasonable to me. I would say that loyalty despite a natural desire for other people is an immense show of inner strength, so long as those lines aren't crossed.

[F.W 5,725]

Good thinking..whos to say its not a guy thats just lazy and not raised the seat?

As i sometimes used to do in my local cafe,to sample any sexy ladies or staff,you have to go in,leave it as clean as you can,so if you follow anyone in,you know its their drops.I once did this,and was indeed rewarded with a little pee splash from a very nice girl behind the counter.I knew it was her because i knew it was 100% clean before she went in.I simply went in after her..

[Ponme 202]

Hi everyone and thank you for all your comments and feedbacks.

First, this young woman I work with has a boyfriend, so I am not hitting on her nor am I interested. I personally agree with Brutus, it's not cheating and I'm not having physical contact with her.

Regarding the toilet, I work as a cleaner in a sport center. She always uses the same washroom with a single toilet bowl. I actually know around what time she uses the washroom, so I clean the seat before. The walls are thin and when I enter the singles men wasroom at the end of a corner hallway, (more for the office staff) which its, her, boss of the aquatic, my female head boss and the receptionist that uses it. I actually listen in with my ear against the wall and she sounds like a massive torrent to a point that I don't even need to lean in to hear. What suprised me, she told me that she dislikes sitting on public toilets, so she hovers. That being said, she doesn't seem to wipe the seat even knowing the my head boss uses it.

I can say for a fact that the pee on the seat is still warm after she left and I go in. To be honest, i have been tasting her pee for about 2 years now. It excites me because not long after, I go and chat with her asking if there's anything that needs to be done on the pool deck. Call it a crush, a turn on, an obsession, it does stop there and I would not be drawn to date or try to pursue a sexual encounter.

 

[Sephora 2,372]

Oh my, the details here lololol

I personally feel that if I was to find out that my husband was licking the pee from a toilet seat from a work college, I don't think it would turn out well. Not only that I would be angry, I would start questioning and worry if this will go any further. Then try to imagine if I happen to see this person at a Christmas party, knowing she had nothing to do with it, her presents would bother me. There's a difference between looking someone peeing and getting horny in the moment. To me, thats getting horny in the moment. Yes I do stare at guys asses at the gym, however I don't get horny about it.

It is what it is, I just hope for your sakes you don't get caught or your girlfriend finds out. Be careful please.

 

 

 

[Brutus 2,193]

16 hours ago, Sephora said:

Oh my, the details here lololol

I personally feel that if I was to find out that my husband was licking the pee from a toilet seat from a work college, I don't think it would turn out well. Not only that I would be angry, I would start questioning and worry if this will go any further. Then try to imagine if I happen to see this person at a Christmas party, knowing she had nothing to do with it, her presents would bother me. There's a difference between looking someone peeing and getting horny in the moment. To me, thats getting horny in the moment. Yes I do stare at guys asses at the gym, however I don't get horny about it.

It is what it is, I just hope for your sakes you don't get caught or your girlfriend finds out. Be careful please.

 

 

 

This is one of those moments where the differences between men and women shows itself. I won't speak for all men, but usually, seeing a woman peeing (for those of us with a pee fetish) equals being horny in that moment. Watching a pee video, or hearing a woman peeing through a restroom door is a definite arousal. Women can very easily admire physical aspects of a man without being aroused, as you mentioned you do at the gym. This isn't the case for most men. For us, seeing a woman's ass is something that will often cause arousal. However at the same time, you have to understand that as men, we are used to managing this sensitivity and keep random sources of arousal from causing pursuit and separate from love toward the woman we are with. Those random sources of arousal are literally everywhere, all day long for us because the female form is all that is required to turn us on. Heels, tight shorts, leggings, short skirts, visible cleavage don't make it any easier. Constant sources of arousal for men. It can be torture, especially during puberty, but it's a burden that we are well used to managing by the time we reach adulthood, and gets easier with age.

[Brutus 2,193]

19 hours ago, Ponme said:

Hi everyone and thank you for all your comments and feedbacks.

First, this young woman I work with has a boyfriend, so I am not hitting on her nor am I interested. I personally agree with Brutus, it's not cheating and I'm not having physical contact with her.

Regarding the toilet, I work as a cleaner in a sport center. She always uses the same washroom with a single toilet bowl. I actually know around what time she uses the washroom, so I clean the seat before. The walls are thin and when I enter the singles men wasroom at the end of a corner hallway, (more for the office staff) which its, her, boss of the aquatic, my female head boss and the receptionist that uses it. I actually listen in with my ear against the wall and she sounds like a massive torrent to a point that I don't even need to lean in to hear. What suprised me, she told me that she dislikes sitting on public toilets, so she hovers. That being said, she doesn't seem to wipe the seat even knowing the my head boss uses it.

I can say for a fact that the pee on the seat is still warm after she left and I go in. To be honest, i have been tasting her pee for about 2 years now. It excites me because not long after, I go and chat with her asking if there's anything that needs to be done on the pool deck. Call it a crush, a turn on, an obsession, it does stop there and I would not be drawn to date or try to pursue a sexual encounter.

 

Well at least you can ensure it's clean before she uses it. How much does she leave on the seat, a few sprinkles or a big mess? I'm curios as to how much of a "drink" you're getting here!

[Ponme 202]

On 10/27/2018 at 3:19 AM, Brutus said:

Well at least you can ensure it's clean before she uses it. How much does she leave on the seat, a few sprinkles or a big mess? I'm curios as to how much of a "drink" you're getting here!

Brutus, sorry for the late reply as I don't come here daily. I can always try to take a picture, the lighting is dim so it might not be great.

That seat is clean when I am done with it, just the seat, the rest I wipe off with a cloth. We are not talking sprinkles.. it is covered with drops and splashes. I actually paid attention how many times it is getting used. My head boss shows up at 8h30am and uses it before she goes to yoga and she is quite fit as a boss and she's 42. Then she doesn't go back to that washroom until the end of the day. Which she has told me that the seat was in bad condition which she had to use the mens washroom on several occasions.

The lifeguard head boss in question, she's 24 and is so sexy and beautiful. When she wears leggings or in her swimsuit, I try to stick around because it is a turn on just looking at her. She comes in at around 10am and seems to always go to the washroom at the same times. I actually wash well the seat before she walks in and before 2pm which is the time she goes back. I can tell you, the seat is a complete mess so i don't mind liking all of it. Been doing it for a while.

 

 

[Brutus 2,193]

20 hours ago, Ponme said:

Brutus, sorry for the late reply as I don't come here daily. I can always try to take a picture, the lighting is dim so it might not be great.

That seat is clean when I am done with it, just the seat, the rest I wipe off with a cloth. We are not talking sprinkles.. it is covered with drops and splashes. I actually paid attention how many times it is getting used. My head boss shows up at 8h30am and uses it before she goes to yoga and she is quite fit as a boss and she's 42. Then she doesn't go back to that washroom until the end of the day. Which she has told me that the seat was in bad condition which she had to use the mens washroom on several occasions.

The lifeguard head boss in question, she's 24 and is so sexy and beautiful. When she wears leggings or in her swimsuit, I try to stick around because it is a turn on just looking at her. She comes in at around 10am and seems to always go to the washroom at the same times. I actually wash well the seat before she walks in and before 2pm which is the time she goes back. I can tell you, the seat is a complete mess so i don't mind liking all of it. Been doing it for a while.

 

 

Man that sounds awesome, she destroys it every damn time and leaves it for someone else. She knows her piss is spraying everywhere. You said the rest you wipe with a cloth, is she pissing on the floor as well?? It must be quite a mess if the other woman wont even use it.

 

Yes if you could snap a few pictures of her damage before you lick it up, that would be beautiful.

Edited November 2, 2018 by Brutus

[Ponme 202]

6 hours ago, Brutus said:

Man that sounds awesome, she destroys it every damn time and leaves it for someone else. She knows her piss is spraying everywhere. You said the rest you wipe with a cloth, is she pissing on the floor as well?? It must be quite a mess if the other woman wont even use it.

 

Yes if you could snap a few pictures of her damage before you lick it up, that would be beautiful.

Haha.. i guess we can call it destroyed. There is a bit of pee on the floor but from what I observed, it seems like it dripped from the side of the bowl. Like even the under seat is wet, which i will not lick. I heard her a few time pee from the other wall which was quite obvious and I noticed she doesn't even was her hands. I don't if she's a germ freak or just plain doesn't care.

Once I spoke to the evening guy and he told me once he arrived to unlock the front doors to the building and she with 2 others but only her peeing down a set of 3 stair on the side exit because it had some cover. He told her that it was going to stink, and she responded something like it will give the blue colors something to do.

 

 

[2prnot2p 1,071]

No offense intended, but it's so gross that you'd do that!  Forget the whole issue of cheating.  Sorry, but that's my opinion.  I doubt that I'm alone on this.  Yuk!  Actually, it's downright disgusting.  Plus, we don't even know if it's true.  The whole scenario could be fictional.  How would we know?  I urge readers to be skeptical on this one, for sure.

Edited November 3, 2018 by 2prnot2p

[Brutus 2,193]

On 11/2/2018 at 11:02 PM, 2prnot2p said:

No offense intended, but it's so gross that you'd do that!  Forget the whole issue of cheating.  Sorry, but that's my opinion.  I doubt that I'm alone on this.  Yuk!  Actually, it's downright disgusting.  Plus, we don't even know if it's true.  The whole scenario could be fictional.  How would we know?  I urge readers to be skeptical on this one, for sure.

Haha!!

Well I would bet that you aren't alone in your opinion! Many members probably read this story and thought "Okay fuck this guy, I'm outta here" but never forget that your harsh judgement here is the same thing society would say about all of us for having any variant of a pee fetish, including yours. They would say "Yuk and disgusting" at you for simply being here. His enjoyment of pee doesn't have to match yours. Seat licking is a popular niche of the fetish.

As far as knowing if it's true, how would we know that anything posted here by anyone is true? It's easy to make up a fake true story if someone felt like it. I know for a fact that another member here posted something fake as if it was a true experience but only because they got a bit careless. It's not worth considering. It's almost impossible to prove anything as true or false here. Anything could be fictional.

Now I'm not here to silence you. You certainly are free to express your opinion of being disgusted at others' contributions if that's what you desire, but it only serves to damage the forum's spirit of live and let live. I happen to enjoy this story and want to hear more of it. I would hope that you can see how such negativity was simply unnecessary.

Edited November 4, 2018 by Brutus

[greedyneedygirl 4,153]

[2prnot2p 1,071]

• @Brutus...You're right.  I was wrong to be so harsh.  Sorry. 😞

[Ponme 202]

I have to agree with Brutus and i can personally say, i like coming here and share my stories and experiences so that it might be helpful ideas or different ways of expressing and communicating.

 

 

[Brutus 2,193]

On 11/5/2018 at 9:47 PM, Ponme said:

I have to agree with Brutus and i can personally say, i like coming here and share my stories and experiences so that it might be helpful ideas or different ways of expressing and communicating.

 

 

And they are appreciated. This is a unique and ongoing real-time occurrence that I want to hear more about, for as long as you wish to update it. To bring this back to your story, I wanted to ask does her pee sound like a heavy deep pitched rumble in the water, or more of a loud spraying sound and/or hiss?

Based on what she said about giving the blue colors something to do, it seems that she either messes the seat on purpose and gets a thrill, or at the least, is aware of her daily transgressions needing cleaned and truly does not care, like she believes that being concerned about it is beneath her. Seems she has a highly elitist attitude, to think that her piss serves as something for them to make themselves useful. You think she does it on purpose,  maybe as a "fuck you"?

 

[Ponme 202]

On 11/11/2018 at 2:01 AM, Brutus said:

And they are appreciated. This is a unique and ongoing real-time occurrence that I want to hear more about, for as long as you wish to update it. To bring this back to your story, I wanted to ask does her pee sound like a heavy deep pitched rumble in the water, or more of a loud spraying sound and/or hiss?

Based on what she said about giving the blue colors something to do, it seems that she either messes the seat on purpose and gets a thrill, or at the least, is aware of her daily transgressions needing cleaned and truly does not care, like she believes that being concerned about it is beneath her. Seems she has a highly elitist attitude, to think that her piss serves as something for them to make themselves useful. You think she does it on purpose,  maybe as a "fuck you"?

 

Hey bud thank you for the interest in my experience.

I wish I had more details, unfortunately, threw a freakin wall...    It sounds like a deep hissing sound but with wisper because of the wall I presume. It is loud when splashing in the toilet everytime I can hear.

I would like to get a device to record the audio, except i would be worried that she finds it.. i don't want trouble.

About the blue colors, she does not like them because they are a bunch of slackers, and never get work done right and she is stuck deal with them. So maybe she has hate issues.

To answer your question about if she does it on purpose, I don't have an answer for that. If I can can describe her personality in general, she loves her job and is very pro active and has energy. Lets say we talk about the main boss giving her more work or other things to do. She replies such as: its not my job. Find someone else to do it. Like her and another department boss don't get along. I hear things such as: oh he wants to play that game, and she will purposely mess with his schedule to piss him off.

I don't have any problems at all with her, I believe she see's me as, i get shit done and when she needs something, she can rely on me.