What does this site need most?

[Admin 14,788]

27 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I'll probably make a longer post this evening which might be a bit of a word vomit, but there are two things that spring to mind. Not essential but they would be nice.

 

• Being able to search through Private Messages 

II don't believe you can search through a conversation for a specific message or phrase. One of my conversations has 10,500 posts between us and it would be amazing if I cocould search for specific content inside that instead of going through 100s of pages to find what I'm looking for .

• Linking the bottom popup notification with the bell at the top 

(Yeah I know that didn't make sense) When I get a notification I get a little popup bar at the bottom of my screen saying something like "X liked a post in the topic Y" and if I click it, it takes me to the thread. Fantastic. 

However, the notification still appears at the notification bell at the top of the page. They're not linked together so clicking the popup doesn't set the notification as read. I hope that makes sense 

Great, the more ideas the better.

Nope, currently you can search private messages to find a specific conversation (e.g. typing in a phrase will show you all conversations with that phrase), but other than the search included in your browser, there isn't currently a way of locating individual messages. For some reason this isn't part of the software, but I'll see if I can find some sort of workaround. 

Yes, I completely get what you mean and agree that's not ideal. I'll investigate.

 

@fannywatcherdo you have an example? The problem is likely that the term is too broad or you're not using criteria in the advanced search. There are millions of words on this site, and the search sometimes just needs more info to go on. It's not perfect, but for a site of this size usually you can find what you want with enough specificity. 

[hentaixt 1,581]

I miss the video section, but totally understand why it went away.

Otherwise, most of the other suggestions are good as well... Gender was handy, orientations too. I don't care for the emotes, just not my thing. Searches are always good as long as they're done well.

[steve25805 126,018]

7 hours ago, hentaixt said:

I miss the video section, but totally understand why it went away.

Otherwise, most of the other suggestions are good as well... Gender was handy, orientations too. I don't care for the emotes, just not my thing. Searches are always good as long as they're done well.

The lack of a video gallery is obviously the main deficiency here, though the additional costs involved in running that is the problem as you know. This forum is currently financed entirely out of voluntary donations, and we'd need quite a bit more for that. I personally contribute what I can, but am not exactly loaded. What we could really do with is a wealthy benefactor, lol.

Any billionaires out there - we'd settle for mere millionaires, lol - with an intense love of ladies peeing everywhere? Please come on board!

[Admin 14,788]

Very true - there seems to be a major lack of millionaires with pee fetishes unfortunately!

When we decided to stop the video gallery, I don't think to many it was a huge concern, because a) we were at least getting everything else back, and b) there are plenty of other options for videos. The bigger selling point here was more the community aspect.

However, our video gallery was the best I'd used in terms of being able to find videos (due to the way they were all labelled and described). Plus, as more and more sites seem to close down, it becomes clearer that we really did have a relatively large gallery compared to some of what's left. Obviously there are still a few big sites remaining with pee categories (eroprofile is still great etc), but our own video gallery would be great.

Sadly the reality is that even aside from the additional costs (which could potentially be doable), there are a lot of other logistical and legal problems too. I am looking into some sort of alternative, though. 

[steve25805 126,018]

Yeah the legal aspects are potentially problematic...all the free to view stuff is already out there, whilst the pay site stuff runs the risk of all sorts of complications. Those selling vids for cash don't want people like us making them readily available for all to see, and will often threaten legal action to have them removed. We don't tend to get these problems with pics, which are often viewed as free advertising.

Furthermore, we are living in an ever more censorious climate, with blurred edges separating legal from illegal, with very random and patchy enforcement. But for sure, hosting actual moving pictures - eg vids - would tend to more readily attract the morality police than mere pics,  so without our own video gallery we have a much better chance of staying off their radar..

And in any case Admin, you are right. Videos can be found all over the internet, and for modest sums there is also original content. Where we are so much better than any other forum I have ever found is in the prolific number of pics posted by many people in threads. And we have only one really serious rival when it comes to having a sense of community, and discussion of various topics, and whatever. And I think we are just a friendlier place.

[Scot_Lover 1,876]

Do you have the videos archived somewhere? They were saved with the site, right?

The lack of the video library, while it was nice to have, didn't concern us very much, distance made it slow to up and download. We have lots stored here on a big old dinosaur of a server in the garage. If we ever get off this pitiful ADSL service, it will be connected to the Internet once again.

I can't think of anything else to add to the site, recent changes made it more readable, with a more friendlier look.

[GottaGoPee 124]

A way to make money is what this site needs. 

[Admin 14,788]

4 hours ago, GottaGoPee said:

A way to make money is what this site needs. 

Any suggestions?

Advertising would not cover the costs. The more obtrusive and spammy (e.g. popunders that you can't easily close and that play noise) would generate more than a simple banner ad, but would surely not be welcomed.

Selling any sort of pee content that is not our own has all kinds of legal issues, not to mention the fact payment processors increasingly turn away sites like this one. Making our own content would need a lot of upfront capital. 

Donations in theory should be ideal - people who enjoy using the site contributing what they can, when they can. In practice, it's proving it may not be totally sustainable, but we are just about managing. However, if anyone can help out (even if just a small amount), or if anyone has any other money making ideas, please do let me know.

[Admin 14,788]

On the subject of adverts, since it has been suggested several times, how would everyone feel about them being re-introduced? Of course, I'm not suggesting anyone will be thrilled, but would a banner in the header be a minor inconvenience, or something that would actively put you off the site? We need funding somehow, but if it would drive members away then that is not the answer (considering it is not a particularly large revenue source).

On a separate note, please keep the ideas coming. What would improve PeeFans?

[bpb 788]

I have a subscription to a porn site, Yanks.com.  There is a yearly subscription of about $150.  That works out to approximately 50 cents a day.  So, do I get 50 cents of enjoyment out of it each day.   Well, that is debatable, but on the average I think so.

I usually get more enjoyment out of PeeFans, so perhaps I should consider contributing something like that amount to this forum.  I have by far gotten my most enjoyment out of conversations that I have had on this forum thru Personal Messenger.

[Admin 14,788]

15 minutes ago, bpb said:

I have a subscription to a porn site, Yanks.com.  There is a yearly subscription of about $150.  That works out to approximately 50 cents a day.  So, do I get 50 cents of enjoyment out of it each day.   Well, that is debatable, but on the average I think so.

I usually get more enjoyment out of PeeFans, so perhaps I should consider contributing something like that amount to this forum.  I have by far gotten my most enjoyment out of conversations that I have had on this forum thru Personal Messenger.

I'm glad to hear that. :) What do you get for your Yanks.com subscription, is it just videos? Do you think being able to access more videos on PeeFans would perhaps make you more inclined to donate to this site instead?

[bpb 788]

BTW I have sent PeeFans £20 after my speech above.

When I first joined WGP I desperately wanted to be able to see the videos.  I finally got my 3 points.  Over time I have gotten so that I am not into watching the videos that much.  They seem to take too much time to get their action across.  I will still start to watch a video, but if it doesn't get into action fairly soon I cut it off.  I enjoy the pictures much more.  I will sometime read the fiction stories and the real life stories.

Yanks.com is primarily composed of amateur women masturbating on camera.  Each woman (model) will have their own section.  They will have a Masturbation Bio in which they answer a standard set of questions.  At this point in time the entire production is done %100 by females. The model with have a video in which the camera lady interviews the model.  The camera lady will draw from the Bio for interesting questions to ask.  The question will start with what the model does in life and then get into items of her sex life.  There is nothing very standard about the interview.  It will walk all over the map as the camera lady feels is best.  I have only heard two camera ladies, one in Australia and the other in USA.  I am really impressed with the camera lady here in USA, she is so skilled in drawing out the model. I have only heard her on camera, but have never had the pleasure of seeing her in action.  The model will do at least one scene of masturbation if not more on video.  There are many instances in which the model will do a scene of something different in her life.  There is a picture selection in which there are multiple picture in sequence almost like a video.  Quite often they will have two models on together in girl-girl videos.  They almost always know each other and one who has already modeled will talk their friend into joining with them. 

If you wish to check this out go to:

http://www.yanks.com/

This is their demo page.  If you go down a couple of pages there is a selection of some of the most recent videos of new models.  You can get a clue has to how it goes.

There are close to 600 models spread over time from 2006 to current times.

BTW I talked Kevin into subscribing.

Edited July 22, 2017 by bpb

[Admin 14,788]

Thank you for contributing - much appreciated! 

On a different forum note, what are everyone's thoughts on the re-arrangement of the homepage? Now the speed issue is resolved I thought we should trial bringing back the chatbox, but putting it into the sidebar with a few other things. Let me know which layout you prefer.

[Sophie 24,410]

1 hour ago, Admin said:

Thank you for contributing - much appreciated! 

On a different forum note, what are everyone's thoughts on the re-arrangement of the homepage? Now the speed issue is resolved I thought we should trial bringing back the chatbox, but putting it into the sidebar with a few other things. Let me know which layout you prefer.

I'd like to see the chatbox back on the homepage, on the side could be nice. I'm just concerned about the speed of the site. I think the biggest issue was my slow internet, and the gifs that were added. Often posted into chat. It would take a while for me to load those. But speed might not be a problem anymore, I don't know.

[Admin 14,788]

6 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I'd like to see the chatbox back on the homepage, on the side could be nice. I'm just concerned about the speed of the site. I think the biggest issue was my slow internet, and the gifs that were added. Often posted into chat. It would take a while for me to load those. But speed might not be a problem anymore, I don't know.

I've already changed this, could you try doing a hard refresh on the homepage and confirming if the chatbox is showing there for you (and your thoughts on it in that position?). I think the sidebar could work, and the speed doesn't seem to have dropped for me.

Let me know about any speed issues though. Part of the previous problem was definitely with the site/server itself, and not just people's connections. However these should have all been resolved now. 

[Sophie 24,410]

Yeah I like where it is, page loaded nice and quickly. An option to collapse the chat would be nice, but otherwise no complaints or comments :)

[Sophie 24,410]

Just an FYI... On my tablet the layout is slightly different and the chatbox is at the bottom of the page. This doesn't appear in the premium bonus (red) theme but it does in the other two.

Edit - The forum statistics,people online etc don't show either. It only shows the categories.

[Admin 14,788]

2 minutes ago, Sophie said:

Just an FYI... On my tablet the layout is slightly different and the chatbox is at the bottom of the page. This doesn't appear in the premium bonus (red) theme but it does in the other two.

Out of curiosity, which theme do you usually use?

As for tablet/mobile situation, I thought it may be better to have the chatbox at the bottom. I do like having the chatbox at the top of the site (as it now is on desktop/laptop), but that's because it's alongside the forum. On smaller screens where there's no space for a sidebar, and thus only the option for one or the other, I think having the forums at the top is probably a priority. Would be interested to hear everyone's thoughts on that, though.  

[Sophie 24,410]

I think you missed my point. On this theme the chatbox, statistics etc don't show at all, but they do on the others.

I use the red theme by default, I find it more visually appealing. 

[Sophie 24,410]

[Admin 14,788]

3 minutes ago, Sophie said:

I think you missed my point. On this theme the chatbox, statistics etc don't show at all, but they do on the others.

I use the red theme by default, I find it more visually appealing. 

Ah yes, I thought you meant it was at the top, but if it's not showing at all I'll take a look.

Do you prefer the red because of the different layout of the forums, or just because of the colour scheme?

[Sophie 24,410]

Just because of the colour scheme. The yellow fits the topic much better but I find red easier on the eyes. As far as I'm aware the layout is the same for all themes. I see it like the screenshot above when using my tablet, but when I use my laptop it's the "normal " layout.

[Admin 14,788]

That's interesting. On desktop I see them like this: 

In terms of layout I prefer the traditional (yellow) one, but the red was just added for variety. I guess the differences could be put down to screen width, as the layouts adapt to the screen size. That, or the standard layout is cached on your computer possibly? I don't know, that's an odd one. As long as you like the way the theme is that's all that matters really.

As for the colours, I've grown to like the yellow quite a lot, and as you said it's more fitting. I wonder if there's a different shade of colour that's a little easier on the eyes though. 

[steve25805 126,018]

I am troubled to hear that voluntary donations might not be sustainable in the long run.

You and I have a funding agreement in place, Admin, and as agreed I will be giving you another tranche at the end of this month, so within the week now. Some of my porn subscriptions appear to have expired, so I will see if I can add any extra over and above what I've agreed in the coming months.

As for ads. you say they won't generate enough to cover costs but - as a certain supermarket chain likes to say - every little helps. If ad revenue can only cover a part of the cost, it can be additional to donations and not instead of them. I think they'd have to be relatively unobtrusive rather than pop ups randomly filling the screen whenever you click something and definitely no redirects. But if an ad at the top of a thread or on the homepage helps keep us viable I am sure it ought to be something most of us can easily live with.

But I have been thinking. The obvious drawback in the idea I am about to put forward would be upfront costs, involving a need for girls willing to perform, venues for it to take place, and someone willing to film it. And someone with some know how in the area would have to organise it all.

But here is the basic idea. We open a clips4sale site entitled something like "Peefans Vids." We still currently have as members here Sinna and Autumn Peach who have clips4sale sites of their own and who could be approached for advice. Clips4sale does not allow watersports or golden shower material, which is why their peeing content tends to focus more upon naughty peeing. This does avoid them running foul of payment processor restrictions, though, which is a major advantage. If we could associate ourselves with top quality naughty peeing vids, selling them on a clips4sale site, well we could potentially be number 1 in the genre. We have excellent scripts in the form of naughty peeing stories which quite a large number of us have posted. And they have the advantage of being written by genuine naughty peeing enthusiasts. We'd just need some girls willing to act them out, pissing on camera . and suitable venues, with someone who knows their way around this sort of stuff organising it all, with someone filming it. But if we could negotiate some sort of deal whereby  our forum gets a third of the income from every sale, whilst the girls get the rest - or something along those lines........

Is this at all potentially viable?

[P-Spud 1,352]

I would like to go back and edit posts in which I made mistakes. It seems that you can edit, but only for a short time after the original post. Is it like this for a reason?