Out with friends, using pub toilets and urinal

[vanessa9 1,064]

So here is a quick report of a night out with friends last week, two guys and three women including me.

After eating at a Chinese restaurant, we visited several pubs before settling in a nice and cosy place, good music with a great DJ, dancing floor for those who weren't too sober nor too drunk for that, and some alcoves with couches and cushions, where the music was not too loud. Perfect place... except for the toilets. When I first had to pee, I entered the ladies at the moment another woman left the room with a disgusted face. There were two stalls, and the toilets of both stalls were completely blocked, full of a mix of water, pee, and whatever else, with toilet paper and towels floating in the water. Trying to flush only made the toilets overflow to the toilet floor. It was obvious that women were now peeing on the floor. I entered the first stall, closed and locked the door behind me and squat near the toilet to pee. I tried to aim my stream towards the back wall, where there was a drain. After that, I went to the sink to wash my hands and left the place. I intended to tell the staff about it, but I saw that a guy from the bar was already heading to the ladies, probably he had been informed by other patrons.

I informed my friends about the toilet situation and what I had just done, the two other women who were with us made a disgusted face but didn't ask us to leave. I have the impression that one of them stopped refilled her drinks as frequently as before, probably in anticipation. The other one had to go to the toilet half an hour later, and when she came back, she explained that the ladies room were now locked with an "out of order" sign, and the gents rooms were used by everybody. As you can guess, it was not easy to not just jump from my seat, pretending I had to pee again, just for the pleasure of visiting the now unisex room.

Before leaving, all of us went to the toilet another time. We discovered that a long line of maybe 10-12 women had formed in front of the door to the gents. Guys were overtaking the women queue, to go straight to the urinals, but the women line was hardly moving. After two minutes of waiting in line and chatting with the two guys, who were gallantly waiting with us, my two female friends decided that they would not wait, and instead pee in some hidden corner near the bus station. This is something that happens frequently after dark in the pub and entertainment area. They left and told us to join them outside of the pub. I suggested that the three remaining of us skip the line and that all of us could probably use urinals. So we went into the gents room. There was only a single stall, with an additional 2-3 women waiting inside the room. On the opposite wall, there were a row of 6 urinals, bowl type, without dividers, two of them in use. One of my friends has already seen me using urinals, and he knew I would just sit on one, next to him or any other man, as I often do. My other friend was not aware of my urinal habits and asked if I wanted him to block entrance for other men while I use the urinal. I told him I didn't care at all, and that the three of us would better pee together, to save time. So I picked up some paper from the dispenser and went to a free urinal. I used a sheet of paper to clean the bowl, and I sat on it, next to another guy peeing, after lifting my dress and lowering my thong. Just the right height and shape, all urinals should be designed the same, to be usable for both genders, by the way. I peed for a long time, while my friends were using other urinals. Before I finished, another man entered the room. He looked a bit surprised for a while, but after I offered him a nice smile, he made a thumbs up sign, congratulated me and started to use the urinal just next to me. After I finished peeing, I used another paper to wipe myself, a little too carefully maybe, got dressed and left with my two friends.

The face of the other women waiting for the stall was ranging from "how disgusting" to "why the fuck didn't I do the same, instead of waiting for hours in the line".

Edited April 14 by vanessa9

[Kupar 13,307]

Wonderful!

[harry_jones_1975 603]

Thank you for thus glorious account.

[vanessa9 1,064]

On 4/14/2024 at 11:22 AM, Jar351 said:

It's a shame your friends don't understand what an accomplishment that is for you.  I bet that felt great though did you have any last few second drip?  

I have used so many urinals in my life that it is not really an accomplishment any more.

My two female friends went to pee behind the bus stop shelter. One had a strange look when hearing that I had actually peed in the urinal. Something that looked like envy. Maybe next time she joins me.

I peed for a long time, and made sure to push a little bit at the end, to ensure I was fully empty. So a last second squirt, actually.

[Greenmillers 16]

How does it feel to sit on a urinal compared to a toilet? Is it super uncomfortable? And is it hard to adjust yourself so the stream actually goes in?

I have so many questions lol. How do you deal with automatic sensors? Do you sit all the way back, touching the back wall for the wall mounted ones? Are you getting splashback with the bowl being so shallow?

It's interesting to hear from a woman who doesn't mind directly sitting on one.

[vanessa9 1,064]

On 4/18/2024 at 1:50 AM, Greenmillers said:

How does it feel to sit on a urinal compared to a toilet? Is it super uncomfortable? And is it hard to adjust yourself so the stream actually goes in?

I have so many questions lol. How do you deal with automatic sensors? Do you sit all the way back, touching the back wall for the wall mounted ones? Are you getting splashback with the bowl being so shallow?

It's interesting to hear from a woman who doesn't mind directly sitting on one.

So many questions !

How does it feel ? Urinals come in various shapes, and are installed at various heights. Some of them, like the ones I wrote about in this report, are super comfortable to sit on, at least if you are beyond modesty... Just sit, spread legs, let go. No need to adjust anything. Really, this is the type of urinals I would like to see in ladies toilets, or unisex toilets... But in some cases, it can become more uncomfortable, or even really acrobatic if urinals are too high and/or or too narrow for example.

Finding the right position to actually pee in the urinal, and not in front of me or on my clothes, can also be easy or more challenging depending on the height of the urinal rim, the width of the bowl, and what I am wearing.

Automatic sensors are fine, as long as the nozzles are correctly adjusted and do not spray water on my ass. That happened to me a couple of times, a bit surprising but it's clean water after all.

I avoid touching the back wall, for obvious hygiene reasons. Guys are usually not so dirty as to pee on the rim, and cleaning is easy with toilet paper or a tissue. I don't need it disinfected, you can't really catch anything nasty just because your skin briefly touches a toilet or urinal bowl.

Splash back happens, yes, and it's annoying. I sometimes hover over the urinal to minimize splash back.

And of course, no matter the size and shape of the fixture, it is always easier wearing a dress or a skirt that I can just lift. Add extra comfort and efficiency points for going commando :)

[Moore007 438]

Urinals are usually pretty fun, especially at clubs, festivals and parties when people are drunk and desperate at the same time. I’ve seen girls pissing in urinals in various conditions. Some sitting on the urinal. Some bending over and some making a big mess on the floor. In Germany I’ve seen most of it, especially on October fest and at clubs in Berlin and Frankfurt. The problem for me is that I get so turned on when I see a woman pee that I get hard and then the pissing is over for me and I usually leave the urinal with a full bladder 😂

[Carb0nBased 639]

15 hours ago, vanessa9 said:

So many questions !

How does it feel ? Urinals come in various shapes, and are installed at various heights. Some of them, like the ones I wrote about in this report, are super comfortable to sit on, at least if you are beyond modesty... Just sit, spread legs, let go. No need to adjust anything. Really, this is the type of urinals I would like to see in ladies toilets, or unisex toilets... But in some cases, it can become more uncomfortable, or even really acrobatic if urinals are too high and/or or too narrow for example.

Finding the right position to actually pee in the urinal, and not in front of me or on my clothes, can also be easy or more challenging depending on the height of the urinal rim, the width of the bowl, and what I am wearing.

Automatic sensors are fine, as long as the nozzles are correctly adjusted and do not spray water on my ass. That happened to me a couple of times, a bit surprising but it's clean water after all.

I avoid touching the back wall, for obvious hygiene reasons. Guys are usually not so dirty as to pee on the rim, and cleaning is easy with toilet paper or a tissue. I don't need it disinfected, you can't really catch anything nasty just because your skin briefly touches a toilet or urinal bowl.

Splash back happens, yes, and it's annoying. I sometimes hover over the urinal to minimize splash back.

And of course, no matter the size and shape of the fixture, it is always easier wearing a dress or a skirt that I can just lift. Add extra comfort and efficiency points for going commando 🙂

It sounds like the type of urinal would make a huge difference how possible (or not) this is.

Most urinals in the US (and it seems in Canada as well) are the "vertical box" type, as this picture from the wonderful urinal.net shows: https://urinal.net/clarkson_community_centre/

To me it seems that a woman could not hope to use these with her back to the wall unless she does a high squat sitting against the back AND has a straight downward stream. The same goes for "down to the floor" urinals like these, which used to be common in old buildings but have mostly been replaced: https://urinal.net/north_peace_arena/

 

These look like kinds that would be possible to use how you're describing, although some women with really forward streams might still miss:

https://urinal.net/karavan/

https://urinal.net/berlin_tegel_airpt/


The best type for that kind of use would be these pedestal type--in fact the female urinals that used to be manufactured were quite like this: https://urinal.net/inn_at_furnace_creek/

What are the most common urinal types in the Netherlands?

[vanessa9 1,064]

On 4/30/2024 at 8:04 AM, Carb0nBased said:

To me it seems that a woman could not hope to use these with her back to the wall unless she does a high squat sitting against the back AND has a straight downward stream. The same goes for "down to the floor" urinals like these, which used to be common in old buildings but have mostly been replaced: https://urinal.net/north_peace_arena/

I have used a few of this kind, low squatting position facing the urinal. My stream goes forward when I squat, so it is clean and easy.

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The best type for that kind of use would be these pedestal type--in fact the female urinals that used to be manufactured were quite like this: https://urinal.net/inn_at_furnace_creek/

Whoa, so nice :) I am sure this one was designed as a unisex urinal. For sure, this is really the best possible shape, and it seems to be just at the right height. A woman can decide to hover if she doesn't want to touch the rim, or simply sit on it.

Edited May 1 by vanessa9

[Moore007 438]

That’s a cool urinal. Must be perfect to cross the streams. Either the guy sits on it and the woman howers so both streams cross each other or the woman sits on the urinal, spread the legs and the gay pees in between her legs. 

[Mary Moon 1,877]

I would never have the courage to do something like that, because of my shyness. Even though I am prone to accidents, I would accept the inevitable rather than remain so exposed under the eyes of men 😄

[vanessa9 1,064]

6 hours ago, Mary Moon said:

I would never have the courage to do something like that, because of my shyness. Even though I am prone to accidents, I would accept the inevitable rather than remain so exposed under the eyes of men 😄

Yeah, 95% of women probably think the same. Make it 99% when sober. I was once like you.

Maybe you could try it just once, with somebody you really trust, and see if you can accommodate. Maybe you will even enjoy it. I converted a few other women in my life, and before trying many thought they would never be able to do that. More than one told me later that it changed their life.

[Carb0nBased 639]

12 hours ago, vanessa9 said:

I have used a few of this kind, low squatting position facing the urinal. My stream goes forward when I squat, so it is clean and easy.

Ah, so you DO use those too, just not the way you were describing by sitting on it.

Maybe you didn't see my question, what is the most common type of urinal to see in Amsterdam (or in the Netherlands more generally)?

 

[vanessa9 1,064]

4 hours ago, Carb0nBased said:

Maybe you didn't see my question, what is the most common type of urinal to see in Amsterdam (or in the Netherlands more generally)?

In Amsterdam, definitely the "krul" urinal, or "pee curl". Look for it on the internet.

In Netherlands in general, I have no idea. I traveled to Amsterdam a few times for short stays, and apart from a couple of one-day trips into the countryside, I don't know a lot of Netherlands, so can't tell you much...

[Mary Moon 1,877]

in Italy there are those on the wall, unusable for a woman. However it would be too embarrassing everyone would see my vagina and my butt. But it could also be a little exciting 😅

Edited May 2 by Mary Moon

[Carb0nBased 639]

21 hours ago, vanessa9 said:

In Amsterdam, definitely the "krul" urinal, or "pee curl". Look for it on the internet.

I have in fact seen pictures of those before but didn't know that's what they were called.

21 hours ago, vanessa9 said:

In Netherlands in general, I have no idea. I traveled to Amsterdam a few times for short stays, and apart from a couple of one-day trips into the countryside, I don't know a lot of Netherlands, so can't tell you much...

Oh, I guess I had a mistaken impression--I read one of your pee adventures where you mentioned it was at a festival in Amsterdam and just assumed that ALL your peeing exploits took place there. My bad.

So I guess the right question is, which type of urinals are common in the cities you typically pee in?

 

17 hours ago, Mary Moon said:

in Italy there are those on the wall, unusable for a woman. However it would be too embarrassing everyone would see my vagina and my butt. But it could also be a little exciting 😅

Maybe you need to find a single occupant ("one room", without stalls) unisex restroom and try it in there.

Edited May 3 by Carb0nBased

[Ms. Tito 2,327]

On 4/30/2024 at 4:04 AM, Carb0nBased said:

It sounds like the type of urinal would make a huge difference how possible (or not) this is.

Most urinals in the US (and it seems in Canada as well) are the "vertical box" type, as this picture from the wonderful urinal.net shows: https://urinal.net/clarkson_community_centre/

To me it seems that a woman could not hope to use these with her back to the wall unless she does a high squat sitting against the back AND has a straight downward stream. The same goes for "down to the floor" urinals like these, which used to be common in old buildings but have mostly been replaced: https://urinal.net/north_peace_arena/

 

These look like kinds that would be possible to use how you're describing, although some women with really forward streams might still miss:

https://urinal.net/karavan/

https://urinal.net/berlin_tegel_airpt/


The best type for that kind of use would be these pedestal type--in fact the female urinals that used to be manufactured were quite like this: https://urinal.net/inn_at_furnace_creek/

What are the most common urinal types in the Netherlands?

I mean you can just squat and face the down-to-the-floor types.

[Carb0nBased 639]

1 hour ago, Ms. Tito said:

I mean you can just squat and face the down-to-the-floor types.

Yeah Vanessa already said that. All urinals can be used by some women using some stance or another. My point was that there seem to be relatively few urinals that can be used the way that Vanessa said she used the one in the pub (back to the wall, sitting on the rim). For that, the bottom has to stick quite a ways out from the wall, unless you're a super skinny girl and even then you probably need a downward or even backward stream.

[Mary Moon 1,877]

in my opinion it is really unhygienic as well as being terribly exposed. Among other things, how do you direct the flow? I would have to undress completely from the waist down, as i have no penis. It would be a disaster and I would end up peeing on the floor. The only way to use them that i can think of is if you have that plastic thing to make you pee standing up

[Moore007 438]

3 hours ago, Mary Moon said:

in my opinion it is really unhygienic as well as being terribly exposed. Among other things, how do you direct the flow? I would have to undress completely from the waist down, as i have no penis. It would be a disaster and I would end up peeing on the floor. The only way to use them that i can think of is if you have that plastic thing to make you pee standing up

I’ve seen women pee with “go-girl” funnels at festivals and clubs and next time I’m ending up peeing next to a woman peeing like that I’ll ask her to aim on me 😋

[vanessa9 1,064]

On 5/3/2024 at 4:54 AM, Carb0nBased said:

So I guess the right question is, which type of urinals are common in the cities you typically pee in?

I travel quite a lot, so I have really seen all types, shapes, room layouts etc. The most frequent are probably the bowl urinals inside buildings, and the trough, wall or floor types in outdoor toilets. I never did any statistics on that...

[Mary Moon 1,877]

10 minutes ago, vanessa9 said:

I travel quite a lot, so I have really seen all types, shapes, room layouts etc. The most frequent are probably the bowl urinals inside buildings, and the trough, wall or floor types in outdoor toilets. I never did any statistics on that...

Have you ever made a man or boy you didn't know feel embarrassed by peeing in a urinal? Maybe someone who was about to pee but saw you and didn't have the courage to take his penis out and pee because you were there. Awkward guys turn me on quite a bit 😄

Edited May 6 by Mary Moon

[Carb0nBased 639]

3 hours ago, vanessa9 said:

I travel quite a lot, so I have really seen all types, shapes, room layouts etc. The most frequent are probably the bowl urinals inside buildings, and the trough, wall or floor types in outdoor toilets. I never did any statistics on that...

What do you mean by "bowl type"? Do you mean like the ones I linked from Karavan and Tegel Airport?

[Carb0nBased 639]

18 hours ago, Mary Moon said:

in my opinion it is really unhygienic as well as being terribly exposed. Among other things, how do you direct the flow? I would have to undress completely from the waist down, as i have no penis. It would be a disaster and I would end up peeing on the floor. The only way to use them that i can think of is if you have that plastic thing to make you pee standing up

If you stand to use them, It's probably more hygienic than sitting on a toilet seat, particularly in a messy restroom. For that you could use one of those urination devices ("pee funnels"), or you can spread your labia and aim with your hands. There are guides online for women to learn to pee standing. Our member "Eliminature" has very much perfected this technique.

If you squat in front of the ones that go down to the floor, it's the same as squatting to pee outside. And it sounds like the position Vanessa was describing is like the high hover some women do when they don't want to sit on a toilet (I actually know a girl who does that in toilets other than at home). Possibly your stream is too unpredictable when squatting or hovering though, only you know that.

[vanessa9 1,064]

On 5/6/2024 at 11:39 PM, Mary Moon said:

Have you ever made a man or boy you didn't know feel embarrassed by peeing in a urinal? Maybe someone who was about to pee but saw you and didn't have the courage to take his penis out and pee because you were there. Awkward guys turn me on quite a bit 😄

Yes, and more than once. Often, it was friends or people that I know, who were embarrassed to see me using a urinal and didn't dare peeing beside me. Usually, on the second or third time, after getting used to seeing me, they start to enjoy joining.

It also happened with perfect strangers. Sometimes men pretend to back off in order to be polite to me and give me some modesty, but I suspect it is because they don't have the courage to join me.

On 5/7/2024 at 2:33 AM, Carb0nBased said:

What do you mean by "bowl type"? Do you mean like the ones I linked from Karavan and Tegel Airport?

Yes, those types.

It doesn't make any kind of difference for people who pee standing, but as you can guess, it is much easier to sit on those where the front of the rim is more horizontal. "Sitting" on something that tilts forward requires more effort for me, and there is also a greater chance that my stream partly lands on the floor in front of the urinal. It happened to me a couple of times, I was not proud of it.