Why?

[steve25805 126,190]

A brief question.

Why is there so much more porn featuring men pissing on women or in women's mouths when the likes I get for my pics consistently demonstrate that most of us seem to prefer it the other way around, with women pissing on men or in men's mouths? Or on each other?

Another sign that the porn world do not fully understand us.

[Hornypeefan 40]

I’m guessing it’s the male dominance thing and maybe even non pee fans enjoy that scene. I agree with you though, I’d rather see women peeing on men or peeing during sex, basically seeing the things I want to do!

[GenericUsername 1,110]

I more prefer watching men pissing on women and in women’s mouths than vice versa. Better yet if the women visibly enjoy it.

[avatar 382]

I'd say it's meant to target the dominance/degradation kinksters as well as general pee kinksters, so men pissing on women is the overlap area of the Venn diagram here.

[PissDude 479]

I don’t see much of it, but I don’t seek “porn” far outside of this site. I know what I’m into and what doesn’t interest me, and this site is a “safe space” for what I need.  

[gldenwetgoose 21,503]

Like others have said, I tend to only watch female based clips because that's what floats my boat.   And mostly I'll search from that perspective, so the related clips are similar.

So I don't really have a comparison view of how much pee porn features ladies being degraded, versus those where a lady is in a 'power' position.

Most of us here all have a huge respect for our fellow human beings, and many of us here have an 'appreciation' or more of ladies who are prepared to pee for us.   When we see a lady peeing freely we (or I at least) enjoy that they're empowered to do that.   When I see a staged clip of desperation, I rationalise that they are entering that studio or setting through their own free choice.  A lot of the female pee we see is self-produced by the actresses we adore, and we hear female voices interacting behind the camera. We respect the ladies for willingly taking part.

Sorry to be non-inclusive here, but statistically the majority of site users identify as male and identify as heterosexual or bi-sexual.   No dismissal at all of those that prefer a penis pissing,  I'm just talking about majority trends and a large volume of people here respecting ladies and pee.

 

But in world population terms, we are in a tiny minority -  and the majority of porn is produced for the 'average viewer' who watches porn to enhance and encourage a 'normal' maybe vanilla sex life.  So fairly clean and respectable, at least as far as porn goes.

But the original question is about a narrow niche where the majority of pee porn is about ladies being degraded, humiliated, treated with zero respect.   I suspect those producing that hard core content have no preference for pee.  They have no respect for ladies, and they are (generalising largely) men who create content all about control, degradation and humiliation.  Violence, and power play.  Men who consider themselves superior.  Hence their content always has the man as the aggressor. Their content plays out their degraded fantasies of controlling and humiliation, featuring hardcore content including violence, BDSM, rape, violence, piss degredation and much more.   Piss to them is an insult - smelly, dirty and degrading. 

Then I guess there's a bit of a 'chicken & egg' question.  They produce it and people pay to watch it.   Do those people choose it because it's exactly what they're into?   Is it produced because there's a huge market for it?   Or is it the case that it's produced and as soon as someone looks beyond vanilla soft porn, that's what they're going to see?

 

[on the porch 724]

There are sites that have female in power peeing on guys and women too , I prefer the ladies pissing , see it come out is over powering to me .

I do love to drink a woman's pee , it's like a drug to me , the site ,,,, X Videos,,,, has many categories dedicated to peeing  , any type of woman ,any size , any shape,, old. Mature , young , try it 

[steve25805 126,190]

On 11/28/2023 at 8:06 AM, gldenwetgoose said:

Like others have said, I tend to only watch female based clips because that's what floats my boat.   And mostly I'll search from that perspective, so the related clips are similar.

So I don't really have a comparison view of how much pee porn features ladies being degraded, versus those where a lady is in a 'power' position.

Most of us here all have a huge respect for our fellow human beings, and many of us here have an 'appreciation' or more of ladies who are prepared to pee for us.   When we see a lady peeing freely we (or I at least) enjoy that they're empowered to do that.   When I see a staged clip of desperation, I rationalise that they are entering that studio or setting through their own free choice.  A lot of the female pee we see is self-produced by the actresses we adore, and we hear female voices interacting behind the camera. We respect the ladies for willingly taking part.

Sorry to be non-inclusive here, but statistically the majority of site users identify as male and identify as heterosexual or bi-sexual.   No dismissal at all of those that prefer a penis pissing,  I'm just talking about majority trends and a large volume of people here respecting ladies and pee.

 

But in world population terms, we are in a tiny minority -  and the majority of porn is produced for the 'average viewer' who watches porn to enhance and encourage a 'normal' maybe vanilla sex life.  So fairly clean and respectable, at least as far as porn goes.

But the original question is about a narrow niche where the majority of pee porn is about ladies being degraded, humiliated, treated with zero respect.   I suspect those producing that hard core content have no preference for pee.  They have no respect for ladies, and they are (generalising largely) men who create content all about control, degradation and humiliation.  Violence, and power play.  Men who consider themselves superior.  Hence their content always has the man as the aggressor. Their content plays out their degraded fantasies of controlling and humiliation, featuring hardcore content including violence, BDSM, rape, violence, piss degredation and much more.   Piss to them is an insult - smelly, dirty and degrading. 

Then I guess there's a bit of a 'chicken & egg' question.  They produce it and people pay to watch it.   Do those people choose it because it's exactly what they're into?   Is it produced because there's a huge market for it?   Or is it the case that it's produced and as soon as someone looks beyond vanilla soft porn, that's what they're going to see?

 

I get what you are saying. A lot of pee porn where men pissing on women is about degradation, stuff like piss mops. And I am not into that either. But I don't fully agree that men pissing on women need automatically be about degradation. Just as most men on this site like the idea of being peed on by a woman, so there will be women out there who like being peed on by men.

Porn showing that which is portrayed as mutually pleasurable and not as an act of degradation still floats my boat. Any sign that the woman being peed on hates it is an instant turn off. Not into that at all. But many of the pics I post of men pissing on women often feature the women laughing or grinning or smiling or with an expression of pleasure. Even if this is only an act, what is being depicted is mutual pleasure, not degradation or humiliation. When you find such pics or videos they often include other scenes where the same women are pissing on the men, and on each other.

None of the pics I post in the men pissing on women or even men pissing in womens mouths  threads depict any displeasure in the women. It only works for me as something consensual and pleasurable. 

The non-fetish community at large out there will automatically assume this to be obvious degradation in intent because they cannot conceive of it as being mutually pleasurable. And a lot of pee porn does play up to that. 

But men peeing on women for the pleasure of both man and woman, is as legitimate a consensual act as a woman pissing on a man.

I would love to piss on a woman as well as have her piss on me. I would happily piss in her mouth. But - and this is a massive but - only if she wanted me to and was enjoying it. Because it is only that latter fact that makes it a mutually erotic consensual pleasure. Without that it becomes something ugly and abusive,, it becomes degradation which is not my thing at all.

With porn actresses it is a little bit more complicated, because love and eroticism is highly unlikely to be their main motivation, with the possible exception of a few amateur clips. They are usually doing it primarily for the money, however much we like to pretend they are enjoying it. But if they are freely consenting to whatever they are doing, thats fine. Even if they are happy to let some guy piss on them or in their mouth only on that basis, I have no problem with it if it is their choice and what is being depicted is mutually pleasurable. Many of the men being peed on in porn after all are only likely to be allowing it for the money too.

Having said that, there are female porn performers out there who often make their own stuff featuring themselves and sometimes including their boyfriend who do seem to genuinely enjoy pissing and being pissed on. Nerdy Faery is one example, some of whose clips even feature her boyfriend pissing in her mouth, which she appears to be enjoying along with all her other pissing performances. One particular favourite of hers is to lick the end of her partner's dick whilst he is pissing, usually with a big grin on her face.

In those circumstances there is no act of degradation at all.

So when it comes to men pissing on women, it is the intent behind it rather than the act itself  which determines whether it is an imposed act of degradation or something mutually enjoyable.

I do post a lot of pics in a variety of categories though and tend to notice trends in what people like judging by the number of icons that get applied. Ladies peeing in naughty places tend to be popular, and ladies pissing on men or each other. I get many fewer likes for men pissing on women, and very few likes for men pissing in womens mouths, though women pissing in each others or in mens mouths can sometimes be popular. It is possible that many people are seeing the men pissing on women as acts of degradation rather than as acts of mutual pleasure. I enjoy them as the latter which is why I post them, and I avoid posting - and actively dislike - anything depicting displeasure or disgust or abuse.

There is nothing more ugly to me than some woman with "bitch" or "piss whore" written on her forehead, looking utterly disgusted as some dick pisses in her face. The only desire I feel if I see something like that is a desire to make it stop and give the guy a slap. 

[steve25805 126,190]

On 11/26/2023 at 8:28 PM, avatar said:

I'd say it's meant to target the dominance/degradation kinksters as well as general pee kinksters, so men pissing on women is the overlap area of the Venn diagram here.

There is probably some truth in that. But alas for many pee kinksters, mutual pleasure and consent by the woman is important to us. 

For me, pissing on a woman would only be fun if she was enjoying. If she wasnt I would never be doing it and couldnt possibly be turned on by it

There are essentially two strands to any pissing on each other pleasures. One which motivates most of us on this forum is finding mutual pleasure in doing something so intimate to each other, The golden shower itself is the primary interest.

But there are many others whose main kink is degradation and dominance, and for them the pissing itself isnt the main deal. The main deal is their desire to degrade and humiliate another person, and pissing on them is just a means of achieving that.

To sum up the difference succinctly, if most of us on this forum were pissing on a woman, the more she was enjoying it the more turned on we would be.

But for someone whose main kink is degradation, her enjoying it would spoil the fun. The more she was hating it the more turned on they would be.

I think we should understand the difference and not automatically assume that pissing on a woman is automatically degrading to her. Because it wouldn't be if she likes being pissed on..

[avatar 382]

37 minutes ago, steve25805 said:

There is probably some truth in that. But alas for many pee kinksters, mutual pleasure and consent by the woman is important to us. 

For me, pissing on a woman would only be fun if she was enjoying. If she wasnt I would never be doing it and couldnt possibly be turned on by it

There are essentially two strands to any pissing on each other pleasures. One which motivates most of us on this forum is finding mutual pleasure in doing something so intimate to each other, The golden shower itself is the primary interest.

But there are many others whose main kink is degradation and dominance, and for them the pissing itself isnt the main deal. The main deal is their desire to degrade and humiliate another person, and pissing on them is just a means of achieving that.

To sum up the difference succinctly, if most of us on this forum were pissing on a woman, the more she was enjoying it the more turned on we would be.

But for someone whose main kink is degradation, her enjoying it would spoil the fun. The more she was hating it the more turned on they would be.

I think we should understand the difference and not automatically assume that pissing on a woman is automatically degrading to her. Because it wouldn't be if she likes being pissed on..

Yeah, that's basically what I was meant to get at. The piss degradation content is targeted more to the types of people who get off on degrading others and pee is just a means of degradation, as well as the people that are into the pee itself more broadly. But as I said, there is certainly some sort of an overlap, with people who are into degradation as well as other pee stuff in general.

But yeah, I'm personally more into peeing on people motivated by the receiver being really into it too. Guess if someone was into being peed on because they saw it as a sub/degradation thing that really turns them on I'd find that hot too. But the enjoyment of the receiving person (whatever gender they may be lol) is the main thing that floats my boat and is required to be present in any pee content I consume/fantasize about.

[on the porch 724]

You can see all this as a degrading part ,which I do not subscribe to , Or a very personal close affection with a partner . I have never peed on a woman , I have peed with them ,feeling her warm fluid on me is magic , tasting it is even better , I don't even watch a video with someone one degrading another , there is something about drinking HER pee , I can't put a finger on WHY , but , to me its one of the most personal loving acts two people can give each other