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Yes. I've recounted in many of my posts. Is there a particular context or culture you are thinking about?
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I've had the after sex in the shower, car and nature situations.
My most memorable post sex in the car pee was in college. My girlfriend and I both lived in dorms with roommates. Thus one night we decided to take a drive to the beach. She had a car with back seats that folded flat actually made a pretty nice flat space for some love. We went at it and after we came we lay there together for a while. Then she said she had to pee. She got out the door first and by the time I crawled to the door, I was looking at her squatting low and wide watching her stream pour out onto the pavement. I stopped to watch and she noticed me and smiled. When she finished I hoped out of the car and I was already hard again from the show. She smiled and commented about how I liked that. I had not previously shared my interest. She grabbed my balls and gave my cock a stroke. I said, I still needed to pee and she told me to pee and we would have some more fun. I tried hard to pee erect onto the asphalt next to the car and she asked if I was having issues. I said yes and she came over and teased me some more by holding and stroking me. When I got out as much pee as I could with her still holding me, she then pulled me back toward the car door by my cock, bent over and guided me into her from behind. After the next session she squatted down again by the open door to pee but this time could only do a few squirts. She jokingly commented that I had fucked her dry. I waited a few minutes watching the ocean until i went soft and then had a nice pee on the near by wooden railing.
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I rarely ask these days but I did when I was younger.
When I first started to become interested in the idea of peeing in unusual places I would look for opportunities where there were no toilets and ask people where to pee. I was still young enough that peeing in public was often accepted in Europe. This was fun because I would essentially be given permission to pee in public because there was no other option.
I remember going on a camp day trip to see a castle. We were on a bus that was parked near rock walls. I skipped going at the castle and waited for the 15min walk back to the bus to then ask one of the camp leaders where I could pee. I was told to find a place and pointed to the near by rock wall. I happily wet the wall and even inspired some other students to join in. Another time I was on a tour in Spain walking through ruins in a city. I asked the guide where I could pee and was directed to peed on the wall of the ruins.
I’ve also had fun asking girls at big events/parties where there is a lot of public peeing. Its a great way to diffuse a situation if you come upon a group of girls peeing and to see if they are interested in the topic. Its sometimes a great way to instigate them to pee also.
Bay to Breakers used to be a great for this. One time I was part of a big group with a float filled with beer in the parade. There was another group of girls dressed like nurses that had been in a float near us for several blocks. We had been trading drinks and there was a lot of flirting in the group. We both paused, and I said, "do any of you know this area? I really need to pee." The girls shrugged, but one said she also had to go and thought we could cut down that alley. With that she lead the way. I followed with a couple of her friends.
Immediately after entering the alley she stopped at a building alcove. I was so excited to see them pee that I almost forgot I had said I had to pee. She turned to me and said “pipi time” I looked at the alcove thinking about the best way for us all to arrange ourselves and playing it out a bit more “On the door?” I asked. She stepped closer to me so she was talking in my ear. “The door, the wall, the world is your urinal at Bay to Breakers” With that I pulled down my costume and pulled out my semi hard penis in attempt to get things going. Her friends were starting to squat, but she stood right beside me, lifted the front of her skirt, pulled her panties aside and made a V pulling on herself so she could pee forward standing. After I had started to produce a somewhat weak stream due to my semi erection, she blasted the metal door with her pee stream. She finished before me, watched me wet the door and joked that she won. We continued to flirt and pee a few more times together, she ended up giving me a post pee blow job later in the park and we hooked up at a friends apartment that night.
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3 hours ago, DoctorDoctor said:
I was on an out of town trip, enjoying a local park. As it became dusk, I was walking out of the park gates. It was one of those large brick and stone gate structures with a wrought iron gate that could be closed.
As, I neared the gate to leave, I heard the sound of liquid splattering into mud. I looked over to the side and in a break in the hedge along the gate structure a woman was squatting in a deep knee bend squat with her toes nearly against the brick wall. She was Asian, wearing very loose shorts. She had the crotch pulled aside and and starring right down between her feet, presumably at her own stream or puddle, so she didn't even notice me walk by.
I thought it was an odd place to pee with so much free space and more privacy in the park, but we never know the full story behind the sightings.
Could you see her stream? Was it hitting the wall?
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On 9/26/2022 at 12:43 PM, oliver2 said:
It's funny that this whole article talks about the benefits of pee as a fertilizer without addressing the obvious question of why we shouldn't just pee outside on plants.
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@kitty and mimi These sites discuss peeing topics but they seem more like Yahoo forums or Quora. They don't seem to be enthusiastic about peeing. In fact many of the comments tell people they have mental disorders. I wonder if there are any Chinese language pee enthusiast sites? Perhaps censorship in China prevents that.
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2 hours ago, kitty and mimi said:
not only for little girls, some Chinese younger adult women also feel good to have forward stream. see the Chinese webpage below:
also, google translation of the page:https://zhidao-baidu-com.translate.goog/question/281955295.html?qbpn=2_3&tx&word=女人小便时，尿很有冲力的吗，还是慢慢流出来的？&fr=newsearchlist&_x_tr_sl=zh-CN&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
the page above is a thread posted by a Chinese woman in a Chinese forum. She is a downward pee-er. whenever she go to bathroom with her female coworkers, she was jealous because all of her coworkers she saw have forward stream.
so called "peeing contest" can sometime take place in Chinese ladies room(with open squat toilets) among young women. women compete to see who can shoot the farthest while squatting. downward pee-ers some times will be jealous of forward pee-ers, because they think peeing forward is so hot. It make the people of same sex jealous and attract the opposite sex.
In west, peeing contest almost always take place among men, and it sometime take place inside men's room. it is hard for western women to imagine that peeing contest can take place inside ladies room,since western women don't usually pee together, nor seeing each other peeing.(bathroom have stall and door),and women are usually either sit or semi-squat on western toilet.
That's super interesting that the cultures are so different. In the western societies a forward stream is considered a problem but in Asia, not having a forward stream is considered a problem. I guess its because they pee squatting much more in Asia. I had never heard for the female peeing contests inside ladies rooms. I will have to ask my wife if she every saw that. I guess it makes sense if they grow up with the pee troughs and squatting toilets that is bound to happen. The only female peeing contests I ever saw were my female cousins in Spain/France having pee races down slopes or hills.
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9 hours ago, Malika said:
Yes, of course I do. Unless I pee right close to a trash can; in that case I would put the used tissue in the can. Normally when I pee outdoor I leave the tissue right where I am.
So, it is very likely that you find it right close to my puddle. What else should I do?
That's exactly what you should do. Pee and leave a tissue where you need to. I'm glad you do that. Some women are too concerned about littering the tissue. It's hot when a women marks her territory and does what's convenient for her.
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9 hours ago, Malika said:
Actually I never take pictures of my puddles. This was an exception, more because I was interested in this strange plant (the unique in the whole parking area) than my puddle itself.
I think many of us would love pictures of your puddles and tissues.
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On 9/22/2022 at 11:49 AM, Starks2010 said:
Nice detailed picture. Could see the little bubbles in the pee, and the napkin captured is a very nice touch.
I love that you left the tissue there. Very convenient for you. Do you always do that?
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19 hours ago, kitty and mimi said:
this is a issue only happen in kindergarten, because there are no partition in the bathroom of kindergarten. other than that, long troughs toilet in public bathroom, even in elementary school, have partitions between stalls, even though there is no door. forward stream is no issue even if someone squat in front or behind you, since there is a partition between you and the person in front of you.
Yes, my wife said in the trough with dividers like this, sometime your stream can hit the bottom of the divider and then run into the trough.
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After talking about the theory from my last post with my wife, I think it may be culturally dependent. We discussed the example of the community endorsing a "pee tree" she said that she's only seen that established in a western contexts. For example, she says in China there are no community designated pee trees or bushes at a playground. Children are just allowed/encouraged to pee where ever, not in a specific or repeated area. In general she argues that China and some other asian cultures like Vietnam etc. are very open in pee locations and peeing in general growing up and it societal psychology caries over into adulthood. She mentioned that the same goes for littering, spitting etc. in China.
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Urinal or preferably outside if I won't get in trouble or its socially acceptable.
At home I occasionally sit down, usually in the morning when I am tired or wake up a bit hard.
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7 hours ago, MaxWasTaken said:
Ok im not sure if you want the fetishy what would be cool answer or the realistic answer.
Lets go with realistic:
I think most people would go to the same place because of the smell. I mean look at train stations or other places where people regularly pee in public. There is always the piss corner which you first notice by smelling it.
In a world were pee has no smell it would probably be something else. But in real life i think most people would prefer having one smelly place instead of multiples.This is an interesting observation. I wonder if in the times before toilets people picked places based on smell? Or was it collectively understood that certain places were peeing spots and then smell would just reinforce it to others? Of course in many big cities, many places probably smelled like pee.
Upon reflection I have a feeling that people would collectively designate places that were societally endorsed for peeing. I have this thesis because we see it happen today in cultural contexts where people gather and lack toilets. Many of us have witnessed concerts or events were a few people start peeing in one location and then everyone else uses the exact same place. Sometimes that's not even the best place but it just happens. At playgrounds a certain tree or bush often becomes the "pee tree" or "pee bush" not because it's any more suitable than other trees or bushes but because the local custom has been established.
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16 hours ago, sd91 said:
I think its the same for me really. When I'm weeing outside I have several places I know I can go which are 'safe to go' but generally speaking there's something to enjoy about them too, so there's usually not a lack of desire to go there. Theres a road I often have to drive down for work, where I know there is a place to pull up, enter a field, and pee under the same tree. I get to see the hills and be fully concealed whilst I wee. I've completely lost count of how many times I've been there but I'm still completely undisturbed.
I town there's also a parking area surrounded by the back end of some shops which has an alleyway as the only way to get there. I love to wee down there one the way home from a night out or if I'm passing by. It's a bit naughtier and riskier but again still quite concealed with the main risk being people might see out of a window. It's nice to have a street pee location. I still remember one time in broad daylight I saw one woman in workout gear come out of that alleyway and adjusting her leggings as she came out. I have no idea if she had peed down there too or just parked up but we can imagine.
In the local park there's also a few places, mostly in the woods that I like to enjoy a wee, especially if I'm out running.
Equally these are all far from the only places I go and whether travelling, running/cycling or drinking I'm up for weeing in a lot of places even if I'm somewhere less familiar.
I guess in the past people had to just pee by the side of the road a lot of the time, as needed. I remember reading a victorian erotic journal which documented a lot of pee experiences, and oftentimes there were regular spots you could find women squatting and weeing in an alleyway, or over drains, or in the churchyard between the mausoleums. So I guess people had to dig out these spots. So a bit of both I guess.
Much of your thinking is concerned with concealing yourself. However, in a world where everyone had to pee outside in big cities before toilets, concealing yourself is less of an issue. So in that case, do you pick the same spots all the time or just spread it around?
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I've been wondering...
In the absence of toilets, would people repeatedly pee in the same place or a variety of places?
Did people pee in a variety of places before toilets or generally make a habit of peeing in the same spot repeatedly (the same tree, wall, bush etc.)?
Did the invention of toilets push people towards the psychology of always peeing in the same place?
Do people without access to toilets now choose the same place or a variety of places?
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3 hours ago, oliver2 said:
I can’t see that spraying it by a random tree is going to help with the fertiliser shortage, though obviously you save on the fresh water you might have needed to flush a toilet if you’d peed in a bathroom, as well as whatever energy would have been needed to purify the water and then pump the sewage away afterwards
Yeah, I did not want to argue with the fertilizer rational. If that idea makes her pee outside more, I'm not arguing.
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Hi everyone,
Have you found pee forums similar to peefans in other languages?
Here's an example from Germany: https://www.klogeschichten.net/
I like to use Google Translate and read pee content from other cultures.
Have you found any others?
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On 8/19/2022 at 12:13 AM, Takashi96 said:
She had a reputation in my high school as a closet weirdo due to her habit of peeing in unusual locations in front of the other girls in her clique. She wasn't ostracized for it though. People just accepted it as her being "outrageous." 10 years after graduation she ended up in a group of like 10 to 12 party hoppers banded together for one night with a common goal. After a solid 45 minutes at the first stop, we set out for the next place about a mile away. A few of us had to pee at the halfway point. We were all scanning the area for dark corners when the girl we'll call "Julie" announced "I'm going here!" And popped a squat in front of a nearby fire hydrant. I'd been waiting over a decade to see her pee, and she did not disappoint. I quickly joined her, but in my obliterated condition decided to do so on my knees, so I wouldn't accidentally pee on her. She had the most focused expression on her face as our streams commingled. Then by the time we reached the party we both had to pee again. It was packed so I told the others I wasn't going inside with them, because I was going to pee in the backyard. Julie said she was going to pee with me. Then when we got to the backyard we weighed our options as to which tree we would defile? Just instinctively aiming for the same spot at the base. After we finished and were heading inside I asked if she wanted me to find her the next time I had to go? And she gave me a very focused nod yes. We ended up peeing together about 4 more times before calling it a night. Something was going on but neither of us would say it out loud.
@Takashi96 what culture / part of the world was this in? I had a Japanese girlfriend who said that she had a group of friends all knew each other's kinks and found it totally normal that everyone has a kink.
I met some of her friends and she did not hesitate to tell them about my interest. I should write that story when I have time.
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I'm not really obsessed with mouth's and I'm more turned on by seeing them covered in cum vs. pee. But I think part of my attraction is how public a mouth is and how it transcends contexts. It's a part of the body everyone looks at and interacts with in the most public and social aspects in life. It's thus very exciting for that same part of the body to wear the fluids of sex in another context. For its similar to the attraction I see to someone creating a pee puddle in a public or very clean space. Its irreverent and unconventional. The body parts transcend contexts.
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I wonder what impact climate change will have on peeing? I was at a gathering the other day with some parents who tend to be concerned about the environment and climate issues. They are all very well off and posh but also a bit hippy in mentality. We were in the backyard of one of the families lounging on the deck having some Rosé while the kids ran around the yard. A boy of one of the guests ran up to his mom and said “mom, I have to pee.” His mom said, "ok, come" and started to get up to head to the house. The host mother jumped in and said "oh, go pee by a tree, it saves water and there’s a fertilizer shortage because of the war.” The other mom looked at her questioningly and said “are you sure?” She replied “yes, we all need to pee outside more. Just don’t always go in the same place or the nitrogen will burn the plants.”
I tried to act uninterested but my mind was immediately racing. Was this very attractive woman taking her own advice? Is she trying to pee outside as much as possible?
Is climate change going to drive more environmentally minded people to pee outside?
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I thought of another party girl incident. I was with a friend at a rooftop club in West Hollywood many years ago. We were looking down on the street below and across the street was one of the hottest clubs at the time. Next to it was a large concrete driveway to a parking lot. 4 girls came out of he club and went to the valet to get their car. While they were waiting 3 of the girls ran around the corner of the building wall onto the concrete drive next door. They immediately lined up with their backs to the club wall and I think they thought no one could see them because no one was on their level within view. They were not thinking about us on the roof above. Immediately they hiked up their short dresses, pulled down their panties and dropped into squats. All 3 began to produce forward streams and puddles on the parched dry, and well lit concrete. As they were going their friend got her BMW and pulled it into the driveway. The 3 girls finished up while their friend jumped out of the car, ran over to the wall and produced a 4th puddle. They then all jumped into the car and drove away leaving the puddles as a mark on the otherwise very clean, dry and well lit concrete. There was a slight incline to the ramp. The pee trajectory had taken the puddles away from the wall but then they merged as the slope made the pee run parallel to the wall towards the street. We had quite a nice show from above.
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On 8/26/2022 at 8:49 PM, Ms. Tito said:
I peed in an alleyway two weeks ago tonight before entering a club!
@Ms. Tito Tell us more. Who were you with? Were you pre-partying and thus needed to pee? What was the alley way like? How did you go?
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I remembered another party girl story. In my 20s I had a big group of friends that used to go out to partying in LA. There was a whole group of girls related to my friend M who were very attractive, fun and worked in entertainment or nightlife. For New Years one year, we were invited to a party a a very large, old mansion high in the Hollywood Hills. They had multiple DJs and a live performance by a then hot local indie group. There were about 12-15 of us with more girls in the group than guys. When we got there it turned out to be a much larger party than any of us had anticipated. There were probably 500+ people there and the host had wisely decided to keep most of the party outside the house and on the grounds and in the back yard which was massive and had a beautiful view of the city below. Only the guest house bathroom was open and they had put some port-a-potties in the driveway but definitely not enough for a party that scale. It goes without saying that there was a lot of public peeing that night but the more interesting part was my interactions with some of our party girl friends.
At that time marijuana was still illegal in California. At one point some of the group decided they would find a spot on the property to partake in some. Going next to the guest house we found a nice patio with a view and some seating. It was a perfect location for our group to hang out more privately. Part way through a round of “puff, puff, pass” one of the girls said, “I really have to pee.” To which the others commented they also had to go and talked about how the lines were ridiculous and the port-a-potties were gross. My male friend A said, “I think we’ve found the bathroom right here.” The girls looked a little puzzled an he gestured down the side of the guest how to a couple of guys that had literally just then come around the corner and were peeing by the wall. One the girls C then said “good enough for me" and walked about 15 feet from where we were standing by the patio railing to the wall of the guest house. The other girls looked at each other and followed. In the next 30 seconds the were all hiking up their short dresses, squatting and pissing streams onto the patio. My male friends seemed uninterested and gazed out at the view. I casually turned around leaning on the railing but facing the guest house so I could see the action while still talking with those not peeing. None of the girls noticed except one girl, Q who saw I was watching. She opened her mouth, spread her legs a little wider so I could get a better view of her pussy and stream and licked her finger. I had a good view, shot her a look but then turned away because I was specifically trying to avoid Q. She was hot but crazy and my good friend's cousin. Going there was bad news.
The night progressed and things got really crazy. We all got split up and then I ran into Q shortly as the party was ending. It was really hard to find a cab way up in the hills (pre-Uber days) and we were trying to find a ride out in front of the house. I had to pee and told Q as I walked towards some box vans that were loading up catering etc.. Q grabbed my arm and scurried ahead of me dragging me to the gutter between the vans and the side of the canyon wall. She positioned herself uphill from me so I was looking right at her. With a sexy smile looking into my eyes, she pulled up her white party dress, dropped into a very wide leg squat and pulled her lacy thong aside. I looked at her and she said “I saw what you like.” I had been trying to avoid Q but I could not resist this. I crouched down to get a better look. She was slightly up hill from me and I could see her shaved pussy. After a few moments she started to gush pee. I was close enough and she was peeing hard enough that I could feel the splash back. She grabbed my hand and put my fingers in her stream just as it was dwindling. Then she pushed my hand towards her pussy and at the same time started kissing me. She was guiding my hand to finger her and she was very wet. This went on for a bit and she stopped and said “I thought we were here because you had to pee.” I took this opportunity to stand up. She stayed squatting and helped me unzip. I took out my penis, she grabbed it and encouraged me to go. I managed to pee a stream onto rock wall beside us as she played with my penis a bit guiding it around. I was hard as I finished and she started to give me a few strokes. She stood up, turned around, hiked up the back of her dress and showing me her incredibly hot ass, leaned over and again pulled her panties aside so I could see her wet pussy lips. I put my fingers back in her slit which was still really wet. I then just started to let my penis feel that wetness and was about to go in when I heard someone behind me exclaim my name. It was another one of my male friends. Coming into the shadows. He said, “wow-ah, what’s going with you two?” Q acted quickly and dropped the back of her dress. I said, "we were just peeing.” He said “me too” and then explained that he had found one of the caterers who would drive us home. After he peed we got a ride home. Q made a b-line straight for my bedroom and things continued from there although pretty conventional.
That was really my only hook up with Q. Well, we did end up making out in a closet while hiding from Hotel security at another party, but that’s not really a wet story. She wanted something more but she was crazy and my good friends cousin so that was not happening.
Fast forward a year and I was dating another one of the girls in the group. We were at another big crazy house party at Pauly Shore’s house behind the Comedy Store on Sunset. My then girlfriend was upset about something and had dragged me to a corner of the yard behind the house to tell me about it. In the middle of this Q comes out the back door sees us, walks up and asks if we have seen another bathroom because the line inside is crazy. My girlfriend had her back to Q but turns around to say no and gives her a look like that says you’re interrupting. My girlfriend goes back to bitching me out and Q lightly steps away to a spot under a light by the side of the house. I can clearly see her but my girlfriend still had her back to Q. Q smiles at me, wiggles her hips as she pulls up her dress and squats down in the landscaping. She spreads her legs wide and begins peeing. I must have looked distracted because my girlfriend got angrier, grabbed my arm and said "are you listening?" then turned around to see what I was looking at. She then exclaimed “Q, what are you doing?” To which Q smiled and said, "I’m just peeing.” My girlfriend then dragged me by the arm back to the house, a path which required us to get even closer to Q who was still peeing and smiled at me as we went by. My girlfriend was super angry for a while. Later I ran into Q at the bar who came up and said, “when you’re done with her, I know what you like."
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What are your pee-related turn offs.
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Obviously posed videos or videos where the subject is being coached into doing it.
Videos where you sense the person peeing is uncomfortable with the situation.
Videos where girls are over-sexualizing it by moaning, playing with themselves, playing their breasts of having long lead-ups. This can be fine its in person in a real relationship but its cheesy when played to a photographer.
When a woman squats but then unnaturally leans back and supports herself with a hand in order to orient her crotch to the camera. I've never seen a woman do this voluntarily in real life.
Videos that are posed outdoor squat situations where the woman carefully lines up over a ground view camera. This blows any realism.
Videos where the subject is unnaturally silent or unrealistically ignores the camera and camera man. These are somewhere between a voyeur video and produced content and they just don't work.
In contrast to the contrived situations above, I've really grown to love videos where you can tell the person filming and the subject have a relationship. In this case, the subject is doing it for the other person just as much or more than for the camera. You can often see it in their faces and interactions. Close to this is when you find those rare models or cam girls who actually just like to pee and enjoy the performance. You can tell they would choose to do this even if it did not drive views.