Pete2304

Being a less successful terrorist doesn't make you any less of one. You can't have this argument both ways. I've given you an example of a group who are nothing but a racist, terrorist organisation that claim to follow Christianity. Do they represent your views on Christianity?

They are both religions. They both have a fundamentalist element who act in a disgraceful way in the name of religion without any rational logic behind their actions.

Seriously, which bit of that last, very short post do you dislike? Ultimately you know, we are all singing from the same hymn sheet, we all want rid of terrorists, it's just the way of going about it we disagree on but I don't know how you can dislike that last post.

The KKK associate themselves with Christainity. Wrongly yes, but they do.

The KKK, I'm sure you would agree don't represent Chritianity and are basically a bunch of radical idiots?

I would suggest if I was a black man walking down the street on my own and I bumped into a group of them I wouldn't be so sure about them not being a threat. They claim their actions are acceptable in the name of Christianity so they are no better than the ISIS lot.

They aren't any more Christian than the terrorists are Muslim. You could find a Muslim arguing that he wouldn't trust a Christian because of the KKK and he'd be basically making the same point you are but in reverse. Most people are decent you know, or at least that's what I've found and that's all I can judge from.

What would you propose to do about the KKK then?

The fact that such animosity exists toward normal, hard working, peace loving Muslims from so many in society is exactly what the terrorists want. They are trying their level best to create a "them and us" scenario. This very debate is the kind of thing they want.

You know what would piss off someone who is intending on blowing himself up so he can toddle off to heaven and get his seven wives more than anything? Seeing someone like me going for a game of pool or going to watch a game of football with one of my Muslim friends. Seeing us laughing and joking and not giving a care as to our background, religion or anything else. We all keep on like this, they win. They create the culture of fear that they want. If everyone just turned round and said go screw yourselves, they would soon dissapear.

Besides, anyone with any sense wouldn't want the seven wives. One is enough and half the time that isn't worth the ear ache!

Ah, come on Egwalrus....which bit of that last post are you disagreeing with? Mate, all I'm saying is let's concentrate in getting rid of the people who want to do harm rather than trying to initiate an unworkable policy of discriminating against anyone who believes in a certain religion. Resources aren't infinite when it comes to fighting terrorism and they could be much better used when backed up by intelligence and looking at targeting known or potential terrorists rather than blowing the budget on employing 10,000 more immigration officers to start stopping and searching anyone with the wrong surname.

I want an end to this disgusting bunch of murdering scum as much as anyone else does but mass discrimination isn't the way it's going to happen.

I am one of the quietest, least violent people you could ever meet. Probably too much for my own good in fact. Still, give me ten seconds in a room with a terrorist and I'd happily shoot the sod right between the eyes. But the thing is, many, many Muslims would happily do the same and that's all I've been trying to say all along here.

"These people" don't think it's normal. A small section of brainwashed, (I would even say Stone Age in terms of mentality) Muslims think and practice their religion this way. Them again, there is a small section of so called Christians (the Stone Age ones with the white hoods) who would gladly rid the world of anyone born with the "wrong" skin colour.

Neither of these groups are right, and neother of them have any place in society.

It's not Muslims that we need to get rid of, or Christians for that matter. It's arse holes. Arse holes who haven't got the brains to realise that what they are doing is wrong. Any person, be they white, female, Muslim, gay, black etc etc must have the right to make their own choices. When any group of people start committing crimes in the name of religion or any other reason, then why must be dealt with.

I have no sympathy at all for any terrorist who winds up dead or spending their life in prison because they have chosen to follow a BS version of Islam and for what it's worth I hope anyone who is ever proved to be guilty rots in prison for the resto of their life or better still, is killed whilst fighting for their unjust cause.

But no two people are alike, you can't judge a book by its cover.

Yeah I noticed that when I had a look to see how many people were guests.

Well he wasn't being funny or clever I agree there. If you have something to say discuss it like an adult rather than being a child about it.

I think that part of the problem is that the chat is on the main forum page, and is not visible when people are visiting other parts of the site. I have seen other chat rooms that can be open in a different window, and many that have a sound effect when there is a new post

You're probably right there with most of that. Think large number of lurkers who don't actually contribute might be a factor as well. Right now 96 people on and only 8 of them registered

So he's going out of his way to change it? Sorry, despite the fact that I'm only 31, I'm about as useful with technology as my grandmother who is 91!

What's happened to make someone so pissed off in the first place?

Can admin not just block his IP?

Not a problem. It seemed pretty obvious from the first post that whoever that is, was on a wind up mission as with the last account they created. Just don't bother replying if he starts again. At least you know I will be polite while I'm annoying you by arguing :-)

I'm not so sure about that Egwalrus having read the post a couple of times but will leave it alone. Guess whichever idiot logged in with that account has caused problems before, you shouldn't bother replying to them, just let them get bored and go away.

To strike a conciliatory note,everyone should have the right to their own faith and beliefs.But also other people have the right to mock or question those beliefs.Its called "GET A LIFE,LOSER".When Islamic murderers are willing to shoot a whole office full of artists,simply because they drew a funny picture of their Fuhrer or somebody,then there is a clash of cultures indeed.In the UK we had a programme called "Spitting Image",in which politicians,and even H.M the Queen herself were pilloried,by being represented by a rubber dummy.I dont remember any Royalist supporters storming the TV studios and AK 47ing the production team...No,believe what you will,but be prepared for much piss taking..

I do hope this isn't aimed in my direction....?

Either way, this is clearly a wind up so don't be silly and bite chaps.

and as far as burning alleged witches is concerned.....you're having a go at Islam on that front? Really?

Its complicated i guess.I dont really like to down anyones beliefs or morals,as long as those beliefs dont affect too many other people.The trouble with Islam,is that it has too many non Muslims willing to defend it,when as we have seen,its adherents can misinterpret the teachings.If Muslims want to follow their religion to the letter,then we in the civilsed west ought to be encouraging them to perhaps go live in a slightly less enlightened country,where maybe they still burn witches at the stake for instance.But you have to be a real left wing student to think that our western civilisation and Islam can co-exist peacefully for long.

What you have just said is bigoted to the extent of probably being illegal should you post that on a social media account etc. Maybe people aren't rushing to defend Islam, more a case of defending anybody's right to be treated in an equal way, regardless of their beliefs.

Like no doubt plenty of others, this isn't the first site or forum I've stumbled across and I've been a member of pool chat for a few years now and whilst it used to be a good place to go and have a chat and a laugh of an evening it seems that the last year or so it's declined. Whilst there are still plenty of people logged in a lot of the time, getting to know people and having a sensible discussion is nigh on impossible most of the time.

There seems to be plenty of active people on here posting regularly in all different parts of the forum both fetish stuff and just chatting every day things (I've certainly got probably far too involved politically!) but I have noticed that for a pretty active forum the chat room seems pretty unused. Just wondering if that's something that people would want to get more involved in or if it's just a dip that happens now and again?

I think certainly in terms of prosecution, you are right in the police having more important things to be concerned about. I saw a Panorama ( I think it was that) report showing a CID officer bring up a live map of how many people in the were looking at child pornography right at that minute and he said we don't have resources to even arrest 10% of these people. I think consenting adults having a bit of watersports fun and posting it online will be so far down their list of priorities it will never be an issue for anybody. It's been illegal to smoke in a car if you have children with you for a few months but read only a couple of weeks ago nobody so far has been fined for that yet. Not that I'm condoning it, I smoke but wouldn't do in front of my little man but it's hardly crime of the century, police have more pressing things to deal with

That being said, you could be right about the sites, certainly not a business you would rush into at the minute, given the legislations you've mentioned. It is ridiculous though.

Still it's one bit of legislation they wouldn't have faced much argument on, can't see any MP standing up in Parliament arguing that if he wants to watch two people piss on each other then he bloody well should be allowed to!!!

Apologies for bumping this one but what sanctions Steve? I didn't know there were any although I do remember seeing something a few months about an Internet block on pornography in the UK. Which I found patronising to say the least, if not a bit worrying really. Peodaphilia is disgraceful, along with a few other things that have surfaced on the internet over the years but I'm a big boy, if I want to watch a video of a consenting adult who has decided to take her clothes off then that should be up to me.