Moderator Attack Peeple and Close Thread

[steve25805 126,015]

Actually if the thread is being derailed, the moderator in question can start a new thread, move the discussion and leave a link, rather than demanding that someone else start the thread (and have fewer people see it)

Actually, you are right. I should have done that but never thought of it. I'm not perfect.

[steve25805 126,015]

I come here to have fun. It isn't being fun.

If mods and trolls are going to join forces in attacking me, I find myself spending all my time here responding to that instead of contributing positively.

If it isn't fun it isn't worth it.

One of you only shows up to stir shit.

And the mod is joining forces with him and publicly criticising his colleague

Frankly, I've had enough. Do and say what you like.

I'm taking a break for a few days so I can get back to enjoying life....

[Kimberly X 18]

If I may.

I would like to take a moment to say this.

Reading over some of the comments made by member's here, I can see that several of you were very leery and very worried about the integrity of Myself (the model) as well as the site.

Worried about being ripped off, being overly-charged or screwed over.

Worried that I was just doing this for the money and doing my best to "hassle you" out of your money.

And, I completely understand where you are coming from.

I myself have been camming off and on for only 2 years I have been a fetish model and photographer for the same amount of time.

I am also a buyer of fetish/porn goods as well as client of some cam sites and frequent cam sites fairly often tipping girls for services or just hanging out talking with girls whom are friends.

So yes, I have come across more then my fare share of sites who are in fact only out to make as much money as possible, 2 of which I stopped working for due to there lack of integrity in which I felt was not doing right by the customers or workers.

I can tell you I do this because I enjoy doing this. I enjoy talking with people, I enjoy meeting people and I enjoy creating friendships and can honestly say that some of my closest friendships have been made with some of my customers.

I do not see those coming into my room as "money" I see them as people. I get to know regulars, I ask about on going relationships, how there day at work has gone, if they have seen the latest episode of a certain tv show.

I also take pride in doing what I do and doing it well.

One of my biggest points of pride are the good things my clients have to say about me

and it is not how sexy I am or how great my shows are but how welcoming and kind I am.

My point in writing this is to say

I assure you that I had no intentions of "tricking" any one and I would feel very upset to think that, that was anyone's impression or idea of me.

As a cold cam girl just out to get as much money out of people as possible.

Especially since I try hard to keep my prices low and affordable for people.

Even Saturday night's show someone mentioned they wanted to see me do a certain something and happened to mention they had 35$ and would give it all to me in order to see it.

I could of easily asked him to take me into a private session that charges by the minute and given him 5 minutes worth of a show before he was booted.

I could of asked him for all 35$ knowing he had it and knowing he would of given it all to me.

But I set up a show that I made last about 20 minutes or so and only asked for 20$ because I felt it wasn't worth more then that and he was polite.

So, I sincerely hope that no ones thinks I or the site in anyway was deliberately trying to trick anyone. it was truly and honestly a misunderstanding on every ones part.

[steve25805 126,015]

Thanks for the clarification Kimberley but you really shouldn't have had to have come here justifying yourself. It's a shame that you felt the need.

You yourself have done nothing to warrant crticism. What I saw of your show was awesome. You yourself seem like a real nice person as well as a genuine enthusiast. Your show was the real deal, and any money I paid I did so willingly because I felt it was worth it. And having paid it it truly was.

That there is so much criticism over a simple misunderstanding of something you brought here that was so good, is very disappointing to me. And I wish to apologise to you for that on behalf of the forum. It is really only a tiny number of malcontents making us look bad.

And even if I become very inactive here for a few days after this shit storm - mods undermining me publicly with every arse and his uncle jumping on the bandwagon is not something I should have to deal with, and I need a break from it - I will still message you tomorrow. I hope you are in no way being put off. Everything will come good in the end here, I'm sure.

[goldenpiss 285]

I never said or even insinuated that deliberate deception was involved. I believe that it was an honest error in the way the announcement was phrased, but I do not agree with the responses that blame or attack those who believed that free meant no charge for the show. If I were to make such an error in my business, rather than trying to explain it away as the fault of the potential customer, I would take responsibility and at the very least apologize profusely.

We all make errors. How those errors are corrected and handled can make the difference between a returning customer, and an angry one who not only does not return, but recommends others stay away

It has often been said that a happy customer may tell one person about their experience, an unhappy one will tell anyone who will listen

Agree. MyFetish handle very poor by blaming on customer poor original ad. Explain cost of show have no reason on original advert being deceive. He also call customer cheap and be somewhat rude. Not bad like Steve. Still in way that reflect poor on his business. Even though he not make original advert he respond in way that no encourage patronage by any who see he poor response. Any damage done his enterprise do by himself. I no responsible.

[goldenpiss 285]

If I may.

I would like to take a moment to say this.

Reading over some of the comments made by member's here, I can see that several of you were very leery and very worried about the integrity of Myself (the model) as well as the site.

Worried about being ripped off, being overly-charged or screwed over.

Worried that I was just doing this for the money and doing my best to "hassle you" out of your money.

And, I completely understand where you are coming from.

I myself have been camming off and on for only 2 years I have been a fetish model and photographer for the same amount of time.

I am also a buyer of fetish/porn goods as well as client of some cam sites and frequent cam sites fairly often tipping girls for services or just hanging out talking with girls whom are friends.

So yes, I have come across more then my fare share of sites who are in fact only out to make as much money as possible, 2 of which I stopped working for due to there lack of integrity in which I felt was not doing right by the customers or workers.

I can tell you I do this because I enjoy doing this. I enjoy talking with people, I enjoy meeting people and I enjoy creating friendships and can honestly say that some of my closest friendships have been made with some of my customers.

I do not see those coming into my room as "money" I see them as people. I get to know regulars, I ask about on going relationships, how there day at work has gone, if they have seen the latest episode of a certain tv show.

I also take pride in doing what I do and doing it well.

One of my biggest points of pride are the good things my clients have to say about me

and it is not how sexy I am or how great my shows are but how welcoming and kind I am.

My point in writing this is to say

I assure you that I had no intentions of "tricking" any one and I would feel very upset to think that, that was anyone's impression or idea of me.

As a cold cam girl just out to get as much money out of people as possible.

Especially since I try hard to keep my prices low and affordable for people.

Even Saturday night's show someone mentioned they wanted to see me do a certain something and happened to mention they had 35$ and would give it all to me in order to see it.

I could of easily asked him to take me into a private session that charges by the minute and given him 5 minutes worth of a show before he was booted.

I could of asked him for all 35$ knowing he had it and knowing he would of given it all to me.

But I set up a show that I made last about 20 minutes or so and only asked for 20$ because I felt it wasn't worth more then that and he was polite.

So, I sincerely hope that no ones thinks I or the site in anyway was deliberately trying to trick anyone. it was truly and honestly a misunderstanding on every ones part.

You no need apologize. I start this thread not because of you. I start because Steve attack me in other thread. He have no right insult me because disagree and handle very poor. No member rightfully deserve be subject to his attack. I disagree and he attack then censor. You play no part in this. Problem here him and no you. You do nothing wrong. Please take no offense. Original wording by site owner not clear and he explain that and accept responsible for confuse. Steve cross line that no shall cross in good behave. He problem. You not.

[goldenpiss 285]

And even if I become very inactive here for a few days after this shit storm - mods undermining me publicly with every arse and his uncle jumping on the bandwagon is not something I should have to deal with, and I need a break from it - I will still message you tomorrow. I hope you are in no way being put off. Everything will come good in the end here, I'm sure.

Good. Without you here to attack lowly member without cause maybe I enjoy site for few days in you absence. Hopefully you vacate long and it peaceful to all member. Look forward to absence and plan enjoy during. Post more picture for those who like such.

[Admin 14,788]

There is no point in fighting about this any longer. Somethings were said in the wrong way, and other things could have been handled better. The point of adding the cam site was to add a fun new feature that some had expressed interest in, it's not some big scheme to trick you into spending money. No one is being forced to visit the cam site, or to spend money on it. It was supposed to be a positive thing, and I don't really get all the anger and criticism. If nothing else last Saturday was a trial run, not everyone (including me) knew exactly what was going to happen. We've learned from it, you now know what to expect, and I know to chose my words a bit more carefully next time. This is supposed to be a friendly and welcoming place, but this constant bickering is making it seem anything but that. I have been nothing but positive, open, and non-critical, and I don't get why the default assumption seems to be that this was some sort of nefarious venture. In any case, I apologize for the confusion and some of the reactionary measures taken in the aftermath, it's time we put this to rest.

- Admin

[MyFetishLIVE 1]

The bottom line here comes down a few simple facts that I hope will put this in a bit of perspective..

1. Cams.peefans.com is MyFetishLive's first White Label site. We're very proud to have you guys on board as our affiliate.
   
2. We launched the site and wanted to hit the ground running to promote it; to let all of you know of the new feature on your site. Perhaps we were a little hasty in doing so, but we got a little overexcited, so to speak.
   
3. As such, your admin and I decided to put together a trial run "featured show" for you guys. If it did well, we'd do more of them.
   
4. Your admin and I did not discuss at great length how the show was going to go. I got the confirmation that Kimmie was down, and I figured it was "business as usual" for us, but your admin had to make some assumptions to write the promo post.
   
5. The promo post was quickly done and tossed up onto the site, and even though both of us read it over, neither of us saw anything wrong with it. This is just how most cam sites work- free chat up front, and you pay the admission fee to see the dirty show around the back of the house. Technically speaking it was accurate. Free to watch the cams, girls work on tips. Based on how I run my site, that sounded solid to me.
   
6. I understand how some of you made the assumption of it being a free show, and were disappointed.
   
7. One technical hurdle that we are dealing with is the fact that you can't have someone urinating on live camera and in public on a site that accepts credit cards. The credit cards can slap me with major fines of up to $30,000 per incident of something they arbitrarily deem to be "obscene."
   
8. We're working on putting something together to make it up to all of you. Please be patient. The wait will be worth it.
   

[goldenpiss 285]

You forget

9. Attack member and call cheap wrong. We make excuse for something no excuse for.

[MyFetishLIVE 1]

You forget

9. Attack member and call cheap wrong. We make excuse for something no excuse for.

Are you seriously going out of your way to pick a fight with me here? Drop it. Seriously. I'd like to reiterate point 8. We're working on putting something together to make it up to all of you. Please be patient. The wait will be worth it.

The issue is resolved. The post was ambiguously worded. We get it. You're upset. We're fixing it. All you're accomplishing here is beating a dead horse.

[goldenpiss 285]

Are you seriously going out of your way to pick a fight with me here? Drop it. Seriously. I'd like to reiterate point 8. We're working on putting something together to make it up to all of you. Please be patient. The wait will be worth it.

The issue is resolved. The post was ambiguously worded. We get it. You're upset. We're fixing it. All you're accomplishing here is beating a dead horse.

Have moderator remove response just show I right about how you treat member. Very badly.

[wetmanjf 2,787]

Goldenpiss you have been told by the site Admin that enough is enough. You have made your point and your continued arguing is doing nothing but causing problems. Drop it. People come here to enjoy the site and not to listen to you rant and rave about the same issue.

In any case, I apologize for the confusion and some of the reactionary measures taken in the aftermath, it's time we put this to rest.

- Admin

[goldenpiss 285]

Goldenpiss you have been told by the site Admin that enough is enough. You have made your point and your continued arguing is doing nothing but causing problems. Drop it. People come here to enjoy the site and not to listen to you rant and rave about the same issue.

Why do MyFetish get keep making comment? You friend? I make thread for my problem as instruct by moderate. You plan on call cheap and stupid to?

[wetmanjf 2,787]

I haven't called you anything. And if you stop making comments so will everyone else. It takes 2 to argue.

[goldenpiss 285]

Why you choose argue? Like Steve you use mod power silence.

[wetmanjf 2,787]

I'm not arguing. I haven't said anything bad about you yet you want to say negative things about me.

[goldenpiss 285]

Why you delete post and attempt silence. That negative. No?

[goldenpiss 285]

Actually there was a huge dispute between two moderators, with me defending your original post. It is now time to put the issue behind us and move on. Things were, in my opinion, handled poorly, but your continuing to complain is making you look like the problem. You had a complaint and it was addressed. I was on your side, but your continued complaints are starting to change that.

None of us have a time machine to go back and change what happened. What do you want to happen now? Your point was made.

For one mod can quit remove my post and leave rude post by MyFetish. If my post remove he should be to. Fair?

[goldenpiss 285]

Ok. I leave site. As you state earlier in you post about business. I be sure to tell as many as possible about MyFetish be rude to customer and mod here abuse power.

[jodi69 19]

It is not going to happen. You may not like it, and think it is unfair, but that changes nothing. If you continue to push this, you will find that not one post has been removed, but many will be.

I hope this is not the normal response here.

[jodi69 19]

Ok. I leave site. As you state earlier in you post about business. I be sure to tell as many as possible about MyFetish be rude to customer and mod here abuse power.

Don't leave!!!

[jodi69 19]

I was attack by moderator and then not allow to respond. This wrong treatment of site member. Other moderator disagree too but not attack by Steve. I attack because I helpless lowly member and not moderator.

You out of line. Call peeple cheap for expecting not to pay for Admin call free show. How much you paid for vigorous defense hoodwink? Why you no attack other mod? Only me be attack by you.

That is awful. Someone should be ashamed of themself!

[jodi69 19]

The fact is that the original complaint was addressed and even after Goldenpiss had basically had his point vindicated he continued to complain and demand more. The response was not to his complaint, but rather to his continuing to press the issue after it was rather clear that he was correct. He was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and that is why he was told to quit beating a dead horse

As a side note, there has been a major disagreement between the moderators about this entire issue.

Thanks for explaining. It looks like the horrible actions of the other two got him so bent out of shape that nothing could fix it. Too bad because he seemed pretty active.

[MissPiss 1,027]

Maybe the

Goldenpiss you have been told by the site Admin that enough is enough. You have made your point and your continued arguing is doing nothing but causing problems. Drop it. People come here to enjoy the site and not to listen to you rant and rave about the same issue.

Maybe the forum should ad a special place for bullshit, flames and rants. How about the "toilet" hehehe