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I'm really rather envious of you guys having a dad to show you what's okay. I never knew my dad and I was always rather shy and never would have brought up the subject with my mom. I think that maybe my mom thought I'd be too timid to ever pee outside or anywhere else for that matter, so she never brought up the subject either. Through the covid lock downs there were plenty of times when we were out and I was dying to pee and nothing was open. I many times thought about finding a secluded spot, but I was sure my mom would freak out if I did so. Just only in the last few months did my mom overhear my friend talking and bring up the topic with me and share with me what she'd seen my father and her brothers do over the years as examples of what she thought of as being okay for guys. I was so surprised that she was not only aware of what guys did, but okay with it. I really wish I'd known that years ago.

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