Sauna / spa

[tom00xxx 68]

Yesterday I went to a sauna / spa and really had to pee. I just walked around naked and let it flow when walking through the complex. Some people were looking but most of them just ignored it.

[Alfresco 11,008]

Sounds like a very relaxed approach.   It would be interesting to hear more about the experience.   Firstly, you say you were walking around the complex naked - was this a complex where nudity is common, prevalent or maybe even standard?  Was it a unisex facility with men and women mingling naked?  This is not something that is common where I am in the UK so is a bit fascinating to understand differing approaches.   Was this somewhere in Europe, Scandinavia maybe?  I know of naked communal saunas and steam rooms in the UK, but they are gender specific.   

Also you say that "Some people were looking but most of them just ignored it".   That implies that of the some people that were looking, a few people did not just ignore it.   In that case, what reactions did you get?    Did they take a long look or did they say anything?

The nearest I have had to this freedom is going to water parks (indoors and outdoors) where I have peed all over the place but that was whilst wearing swim shorts which were already wet and just peeing whilst standing in queue lines, walking around, sitting on loungers and also on the slides and rides.  I have also been in naked steam rooms (men only rooms) and have peed whilst sat on the benches in there.  I have peed in a sauna, but that was a mixed sauna with swimsuits required.

[tom00xxx 68]

It was a complex in Germany where nudity is standard. It's unisex so man and woman all walk around naked (small minority with a towel). Here in Germany we really don't care about nudity and think it's normal to walk around naked in a spa. It's sometimes funny as you may spot a boner now and then but nobody cares.

The ones that looked just looked when walking by but didn't say anything about it. It's a nice feeling to casually walk around naked in the complex while having a pee. 

[Alfresco 11,008]

17 hours ago, tom00xxx said:

It was a complex in Germany where nudity is standard.

I do wish that in the UK people were less reserved and that nudity was more acceptable and normal.

Nudity in the UK is not actually illegal as long as it is not intended to cause offence, but it would be very much considered socially unacceptable.   The only exception seems to be the World Naked Bike Ride and a few nudist beaches.  I have seen a few ladies topless in parks and on beaches that are not designated as nudist beaches, but it is rare.

[tom00xxx 68]

I can't imagine going to a spa with swimwear on hahaha. I like the fact that we're not so reserved in Germany. You can even go naked in a lot of parks where people are enjoying the sun naked.

 

[tom00xxx 68]

Yesterday I went again to the same spa with a friend of mine. I've been to the spa several times in my life as it's very close to my house. We undressed and first went to the jacuzzi. Suddenly my friend asked where the toilets are. I started thinking because I actually never used the toilets in the spa. I said I really don't know because I always just pee whenever wherever I am. He hesitated but then decided to let it flow in the jacuzzi. I could feel the water becoming warmer around me.

[Alfresco 11,008]

Great that you felt able to be honest and tell him that you peed anywhere, even better that he not only took it and accepted it, but followed through and peed in the jacuzzi himself.

Interesting question about the jacuzzi though, was it a cool water jacuzzi?   Most hot tubs that I use are actually warmer than body temperature, which gives a rather strange sensation that when I pee in them, I feel the pee around my crotch as cool!   I have also put my hand between my wife's legs whilst she pees in the jacuzzi and also felt that as cooler than that water.

I often hear people say the comment about making the water warmer when they pee in a pool, hot tub, river, sea etc. or feeling it warm up if someone else does and I often wonder about it, thinking that it is a turn of phrase rather than an actual feeling because I have never noticed other than when peeing myself and feeling it immediately on my legs/crotch area or when putting my hand between my wife's legs.   I would have thought that unless you are within a few inches, it would be very difficult to detect the temperature changed caused by 500ml of pee in thousands of litres of water with only a few degrees difference - even if you were quite close.   Maybe I need to improve the sensitivity of my temperature detection system!

[tom00xxx 68]

It was 1 of the small jacuzzi's which only fit 4 people max. A couple was already in the jacuzzi so we were sitting pretty close to each other. The water wasn't very warm (there are others jacuzzi's in the spa with warmer water) so it definitely became warmer when he started pissing. 

[Alfresco 11,008]

16 hours ago, tom00xxx said:

It was 1 of the small jacuzzi's which only fit 4 people max. A couple was already in the jacuzzi so we were sitting pretty close to each other. The water wasn't very warm (there are others jacuzzi's in the spa with warmer water) so it definitely became warmer when he started pissing. 

That sounds pretty cosy.  Most of the ones I use have probably 8 seats and upwards and maybe about 3m diameter.  They are usually about 39 degrees C or thereabouts, so hotter than body temperature.   Our own hot tub at home holds 1400 litres of water and is normally 39 degrees, so pee feels cold, but when the whether is hot we turn it down to about 28 degrees and use it to cool off, then pee does feel warm but only noticed in close proximity.

In my tub, a calculation of adding 500ml of pee at 36.5 degrees to 1400 litres of water at 28 degrees means that the final temperature of the fully mixed water would be 28.003 degrees, so a miniscule increase in temperature. Adding the same pee to water at 39 degrees would have an even lesser effect as the differential is less and would only make a 0.001 degree difference.   That's why it can only be detected in close proximity for a short time as the pee enters the tub before it mixes.  Obviously the smaller the tub the greater the effect and the closer you are to the person the more noticeable it would be.

[Kupar 12,487]

41 minutes ago, Alfresco said:

That sounds pretty cosy.  Most of the ones I use have probably 8 seats and upwards and maybe about 3m diameter.  They are usually about 39 degrees C or thereabouts, so hotter than body temperature.   Our own hot tub at home holds 1400 litres of water and is normally 39 degrees, so pee feels cold, but when the whether is hot we turn it down to about 28 degrees and use it to cool off, then pee does feel warm but only noticed in close proximity.

In my tub, a calculation of adding 500ml of pee at 36.5 degrees to 1400 litres of water at 28 degrees means that the final temperature of the fully mixed water would be 28.003 degrees, so a miniscule increase in temperature. Adding the same pee to water at 39 degrees would have an even lesser effect as the differential is less and would only make a 0.001 degree difference.   That's why it can only be detected in close proximity for a short time as the pee enters the tub before it mixes.  Obviously the smaller the tub the greater the effect and the closer you are to the person the more noticeable it would be.

Somewhat disappointed you haven't done calculations of the temperature gradients and speed of mixing @Alfresco 😉 

[gldenwetgoose 20,270]

Remember ‘the butterfly effect’ - the Chaos Theory, of sensitive dependence on initial conditions in which a small change in one state of a deterministic non linear system can result in large differences in a later state.

A rise of a fraction of a degree in a hot-tub which raises the surrounding air temperature by a tiny fraction of that amount - and somewhere on the other side of the world I get a warm feeling. 

Not sure why it works when I watch a video clip or see pictures though. 

[Alfresco 11,008]

3 minutes ago, Kupar said:

Somewhat disappointed you haven't done calculations of the temperature gradients and speed of mixing @Alfresco 😉 

Ah I missed a trick there.   I could have set up some nice pretty graphs which change over time with variable inputs and an animation showing how the pee spreads with time throughout the pool with dependency on which jets are enabled and number of people in the tub........ maybe one for a fluid dynamics specialist rather than an electrical engineer though!    My calculation was from straightforward physics.

[JesseP 1,265]

I visit a swinger club occasionally. The usual dres for guys is a towel but nearly everyone of both sexes goes naked in the sauna. I usually pee onto the floor between the slats in the sauna. Ihave never done it with anyone else there as I don't wanttooffend anyone but would love to watch and be watched.

[tom00xxx 68]

On 7/27/2022 at 8:20 AM, tom00xxx said:

Yesterday I went again to the same spa with a friend of mine. I've been to the spa several times in my life as it's very close to my house. We undressed and first went to the jacuzzi. Suddenly my friend asked where the toilets are. I started thinking because I actually never used the toilets in the spa. I said I really don't know because I always just pee whenever wherever I am. He hesitated but then decided to let it flow in the jacuzzi. I could feel the water becoming warmer around me.

Yesterday I went again to the spa with the same friend. It was funny because this time he just started pissing in the jacuzzi and didn't ask where the toilets are :)

[tom00xxx 68]

Another saturday evening at the spa. I drank a lot of water the hours before going to the spa. Pissed a lot in the jacuzzi and even in the sauna, but it was not yellow :)

[tom00xxx 68]

I prefer a yellow stream though which makes it a bit more naughty. People might then actually notice I'm pissing and it might stink a bit.

[tom00xxx 68]

I was there again last night and was surprised how many people actually pee in the jacuzzi. When the bubbles are on it's not really noticeable, but as soon as the bubbles turn off you can actually see a lot of yellow streams appearing in the water. I also had to pee several times as I drank a big bottle of water before going to the spa.

[tom00xxx 68]

Going again this afternoon with a full bladder :)