Spectacle

13 hours ago, beachmom said:

I've never been hesitant to pee in a pool or hot tub for that matter, buy in a hot tub it's significant enough amounts, along with perspiration that combined with chlorine or bromine you get a choking odor along with the red eyes. My husband and many of the guys would stand up and piss off the deck to reduce the urine in the tub, but the ladies urine was still a problem. The we read about H2O2, (hydrogen peroxide, 35%) a very strong version of the beauty salon product. Used along with an algecide, it cleans and sanitizes the hot tub and when it reacts with urine it breaks down into water and oxygen as opposed to a toxic gas and skin irritant. Much more pleasant to bathe in, no side effects.

I like the implication here that women are just going to continue peeing in the water regardless of circumstances. I feel like that might be a little lopsided, but I can't quite call it unfair, because I'm not sure whom it favors! Men might have an easier time peeing in places of their choosing, both because of their anatomy and because of the expectation that males just do that sort of thing, but then women get to enjoy their pee beneath the surface without feeling like they should be expected to do otherwise. If I weren't into pee stuff, I might prefer the male position on this. (But I am. So there.)

I've never heard of H2O2 being used that way. I'd have to do some homework on the properties of that, and whether it has any safety-related effects of its own. Certainly, I don't hear about people using that in proper swimming pools. On a side note, though -- am I the only one who kinda likes the swimming pool smell? It can be nice, right? Smells like summer.

There are plenty of videos on the internet of people doing destructive things with their pee. On XTube, there's a fairly long video of a couple guys pretty much just trashing a hotel room by repeatedly pissing on (and otherwise vandalizing) the things in it. On EroProfile, there's a whole long series of videos of a lady in Germany who has a habit of stealthily urinating in public, oftentimes in commercial buildings, sometimes on unpurchased merchandise. I think people with pee fetishes are sometimes just inclined to do mean stuff with their bladders, especially if they get to show off in the process.

Obviously, I love it all.

On 11/10/2016 at 7:20 PM, P-Spud said:

We had to close our cottage for the winter last weekend. To bring the dock up on land, it was necessary to work on it while standing waist deep in near-freezing water. I made sure to build up a full bladder beforehand and warmed up my bathing suit nicely while working

Frankly, that sounds like a good idea regardless of what the water belongs to. Brr, near-freezing water! I wouldn't want to have to deal with that for long. But I'm glad you got a pleasurable moment out of it, all the same. I bet that would've come in real handy.

One thing I have noticed in general, with peeing in water, is that it can actually be sort of easier when the water's cold. I think that's part of the phenomenon they call immersion diuresis. You might not think it, but people are more likely to need to pee in colder water than in warmer water. So clearly, when a swimming pool is heated, that's a way of keeping the swimmers from peeing in it quite so much!

Or it just helps disguise the warm spots in the water when people relieve their bladders in it. I think that might be it.

14 hours ago, P-Spud said:

An interesting article:

https://chlorine.americanchemistry.com/Science-Center/Chlorine-Compound-of-the-Month-Library/Chloramines-Understanding-Pool-Smell/

 

This does seem to match up with what I know about pool smell! And as I've noted elsewhere, in swimming pools where the swimmers are required to shower before entering the water, they're not going to produce a lot of chloramines with just sweat and other accumulated things on the skin. More likely, the great majority of pool smell is the result of people urinating in the pool. It's just a fact of life -- swimmers pee, and no one can stop it. (And you know what they say: if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!)

1 hour ago, sara babe said:

I've always loved swimming and I've always loved peeing in the water I'm in. It's rare that I'm ever in water and don't pee in it. I've peed in lakes, rivers, oceans, pools and hot tubs! I love doing it and I love hearing about others doing it. 

The is always arguments about the effects of urine on pool water. My feeling is that the effects are minimal on a properly maintained pool. I've been actually been keeping track of how much I pee in the pool at my condo building where I live. First I measured several of my pees and found that the average is about 470 ml per pee. Than I started keeping track of how many times I pee in the pool.  

I usually go for a swim before work and release my morning pee into the pool.   Than, when I get home I head back to the pool where I usually pee twice during my swim. Every day I write the number of times I've peed in the pool and at the end of the week I add it up.  Than, at the end of the month I add up all the weeks to give me a monthly total. So far since January I've peed 692 times which is an average of 15.72 times per week.  692 times my average pee size of .470 liters is 325.24 liters.  I can't believe I've added that much of my hot piss to the water for everyone to enjoy!  I'm sure other people have pissed in the water as well.  I know my  some of my friends have, also my sister, niece and nephew all do when they come over.  

The point is with all the piss I've added, plus unknown quantities from other swimmers, the condition of the pool stays the same. It's always crystal clear and doesn't smell like chlorine much. I even got my own testing kit and the the levels of chlorine are always kept low but acceptable and the ph and alkalinity are always very stable and with in acceptable limits. Therefor, the over 300 liters of urine I've added to the water over the last year have had no adverse affects. Pee your hearts out People! The waters great!

You know, when I normally think about people doing their homework about pool peeing, I don't think of it like this. Just... wow. I'm awestruck.

This is maybe the most involved study I've ever seen one person do about their pee habits. Just the sheer fact that you're keeping count of your number of pool pees is incredible. And it's clever of you to measure your average pee outside the pool in order to measure its size within. I think the outcome for the pool water might also be affected by how concentrated the urine is -- no doubt, a morning pee is a lot more so than one from during the day -- but really, the figure of 325 liters speaks for itself. That's a gargantuan amount for any pool.

It's also a good representation of what happens when someone visits the pool regularly! Even if it feels like it's barely even happening, when someone's inside the pool and they relax their bladder, the end result stacks up. And as @Maggie_555 pointed out, when you urinate in the pool, that urine stays there for as long as the pool water does. Eventually, a significant fraction of the water might be made out of people's urine! Just some food for thought.

Therefore, though, if you want as polluted a pool as you can get away with, it's important not just to bring your own bladderful into the pool, but also to invite the same from other people. It's a kind of fun that everyone can (and many likely do) get in on. I know I do.

3 minutes ago, Alfresco said:

I have done a bit of research into this as we have a hot tub.   The thing with a hot tub is you sometimes get several people sitting in it at the same time, often drinking and the temptation to pee in the warm water is very great and preferable to having to get out to pee and getting cold into the bargain.   It is typically recommended that the water in a domestic hot tub is changed around 3 to 4 times a year, so there is potential for pee to accumulate in that time. (As an aside, if you've ever peed in a hot tub, it is an interesting effect if the water is warmer than body temperature as the pee then actually feels cool, which is a bit of a strange concept).  Anyway, it is right that the filters only remove solids and not anything which is dissolved in the water or other liquids.   When you pee in the water you add a mixture of substances, including nitrogen bearing compounds and urea or uric acid.   The balancing of the water using chemicals neutralises the acid - i.e. if lots of people pee in the water then you'll notice the pH of the water reduces as the water becomes more acidic.  It is then necessary to add alkali to neutralise the water and bring pH back to the accepted range.   This doesn't remove anything from the water, but simply adds more alkali so that the overall balance is correct, but there will be more compounds in the water.   The Chlorine or Bromine in the water is there as a sanitiser and this is also added as a compound (i.e. you don't add Chlorine gas, but a compound such as sodium hypochlorite.  The compound reacts with the uric acid and forms compounds called chloromines. It is these compounds which cause stinging eyes and sometimes redness or irritation at swimming pools and hot tubs.  Some of these escape as gases.  Others will stay in the water.  Once in a while, you can add a shock dose, which will burn off the chloromines.  You are not meant to go in the water whilst that reaction is taking place.   Pee will be only one factor of compounds added to the water.  Other additions will be from sweat (which is similar in chemical nature to pee) and a large combination of chemcials from deodrants, make up, body wash, perfume/aftershave and so on.   This is why pool owners always ask you to shower before entering the water - to remove all these chemicals so that you don't add them to the pool and then require the owner to add even more chemicals to counteract their effects.

I'm no expert, but that is what I've found in my basic research.

So what's my own view - I still am a great believer that people pee in pools all the time and I'm always happy to add my own contribution.  I don't pee every time I'm in my own hot tub - in fact I rather enjoy peeing in the garden before or after going in the hot tub.   I do pee in it sometimes and I know my wife does - she actually pees in the tub pretty much every time she gets in.

... I didn't know you were married!

All of the information that you've put up is consistent with what I've read during my own researching. I'd make one more note -- regarding swimming pools and chloramines. Most public swimming pools, certainly all the ones that I've been to anytime recently, do require swimmers to shower before they enter the pool. And that, at least in theory, should render any contamination from sweat, dirt, deodorant, etc., basically negligible. And yet pretty much every single swimming pool to be someplace besides a private residence's backyard has that "swimming pool smell", which of course, is the result of chloramines. Why is that? More likely than not, most of that smell is the result of people peeing in the pool!

It's funny, too. The smell of a swimming pool always brings back a lot of fond childhood memories for me. Now I enjoy it with the added sort of sneaky knowledge that it's proof of swimmers doing their business just like they do. No one swimmer may be able to be caught in the act, but the end result is undeniable.

1 hour ago, Maggie_555 said:

I always hold for as long as I can before taking a swim in a public pool as I enjoy using the pool water as my toilet.  The excitement begins while I'm driving to the pool and can feel my bladder is full, continuing while I'm paying to get in and also in the changing room.  Then comes the moment when I enter the pool and stand hip deep to release....

Ah, that's better!  My pee is flowing into the water for others to swim in.   

Have to agree with Maggie on this. Holding one's bladder may be pleasurable to some all by itself, but at least for my purposes, it's pleasurable as a means to an end. And that generally ends in some variety of naughty peeing. The full-bladder feeling is exciting because it means my body's going to do all the peeing it can manage. And especially for something like a swimming pool, where you can do it all day with no consequences -- the more, the merrier!

21 minutes ago, JesseP said:

Even though I am a guy I found that quite horny.

I rarely go swimming these days but a swinger club I go to occasionally has a small pool and I always pee in that when I go. I used to go with a lady friend who was also into naughty peeing and we would both try and let go in the pool and could feel the flow from each other.

I would love to see more like this, both male and female, and better still both together!

Now, that sounds fun. I'd love to get to go to a pool with someone who was okay with me peeing in it -- and better yet, someone who would do the same nearby me. It'd be a fun thing to enjoy secretly in plain sight, I think! I'm glad you've gotten to try that out, and of course I approve wholeheartedly of any peeing in swimming pools that anyone does. That's the best thing to do in a pool.

It really would be nice if there were more videos of this sort. As a bi guy myself, I'm really not overly picky on who's doing their thing in the pool, but I think it'd be fascinating to see how this looks when it's done the female way. Hopefully, as time passes and videos accumulate on the internet, some of them will include this subject matter!

I think I might've seen the Postal II one online somewhere. YouTube, maybe? I'm remembering an LP video with a first-person view, and one of the things the player could do was pee. Might've been this. Man, now I'm going to have to search for that just to find what it was.

I've seen pee fetish communities (or small groups in the same vein) around on different websites, starting on Mister Poll. But this was the first site I've taken notice of that's actually dedicated to pee.

I'm familiar with PeeSearch, but only through this place -- and going by what I've been hearing about the attitude towards naughty peeing there, I might just be happier here.

6 minutes ago, new2this said:

Wow!  So many people who are older than me here.  I didn't really get online till 2008, and then had serious shame issues about my interests until probably 2011 or 2012.  My first site that i kept going back to was Pissinginaction.com, but they seem to have decreased their quality.  Now I almost exclusively use reddit and VIPissy, but even those seems to have a quality decrease as of late. I'm waiting for the next big site to come along...

 

That said the stories section here is pretty dope.

Yes. Yes it is.

Thank you! A lot of good text went up in smoke when that site went under. You've done a service to us all.

15 minutes ago, Maggie_555 said:

I did tell my brother when I was older, with him then telling me he sometimes peed in the water while mum was washing my hair and face!  I did tell my husband later on and he was OK about it. I'd already asked him to pee in swimming pools so he knew it turned me on.

Must agree there are very few videos of someone peeing in a pool in the way people realistically do. There must be a market for this surely(?)

Well, I imagine that if there were a substantial market for it, there'd already be videos catering to it. I guess it's not much for people to look at, or something of the sort. Makes it all the more valuable to get to talk like this! And by the way, speaking of that -- happy 100th post.

17 minutes ago, steve25805 said:

In our case, it was just something we did that no one ever told us off about, so it always seemed normal. The fact that this meant we were bathing in diluted pee never really crossed our minds in any kind of bothersome way. We really didn't think too deeply about it, no more than we would have if we were peeing in the sea.

It's funny you say that, because one time I tried peeing in the ocean while I was swimming with a friend of mine, and when I told her afterward, she was mortified. Some people are just raised to think differently about this stuff, I guess. I probably would've preferred your environment, myself.

Oh, that's nice, Steve. I don't think I quiiiite like it the same as my usual (I'm generally a much stealthier type), but you're right! It does break taboos all over the place. And I appreciate you showing it to me.

Now, unfortunately, when I was young enough to be taking a bath with siblings, I was in that really well-trained phase where I never peed anywhere out of the ordinary. But I wonder what it would've been like if I did! Are siblings usually comfortable with bathing in each other's pee, however diluted? ... Does anyone feel clean afterward? It sounds exciting, but it makes me curious.

1 minute ago, steve25805 said:

I think it is the taboo naughtiness of it - the complete disregard of all the rules of toilet training just for fun - that in many ways does it for naughty peeing enthusiasts. The more wrong and naughty it is, the greater the attraction. Yet most of us are not entirely immoral either and often strive in real life to be good people. So a kind of moral compartmentalising occurs, with moral compromises manifesting themselves in all sorts of ways.

For example, whilst I'd gleefully piss on my own carpet in front of a lady if she wanted to watch me do it, the pleasure would be so much greater if I were doing it on her carpet in front of her instead, because then it is not my property and hence even naughtier. Yet I'd only be happy doing that for real if she were a fellow enthusiast who wanted me to do it, her consent thus absolving me of all moral qualms.

And that is an example of moral compromise in action.

When it comes to peeing in hotels and stuff I tend to compartmentalise by disassociating morality from the sheer pleasure of ladies doing this. Morality gets shut away in a box in the corner of my brain, as I tell myself that it's only pee, and if it gets noticed it will be dealt with, and I shut in that box all potential moral qualms. It is hard to explain it any better than that. A kind of "mental dissonance" as you put it, if you like. A separation of morality from pleasure, justified to ourselves  by underplaying it as hardly the crime of the century and believing that there are far worse things to be into doing.

We also tend to intellectualise our way out of potential moral questionability that might make us feel bad, by for example dismissing peeing in hotel rooms as a collateral business cost and no more, and not equating it with doing it in someone else's house without their consent. We also tend to tell ourselves that we are far from the only people doing - or encouraging the ladies in our life to do - questionable things in hotel rooms. The fact that we are not alone in this also helps us to dismiss it as a legitimate business risk made when anyone lets out temporary living space to anyone.

In fact, you can see my attempts to downplay the moral questionability of such pleasures to myself in this very post, lol.

Again with that cosmic level of understanding. Have you just been looking over my shoulder my entire life?

I've spent a long time agonizing over this whole thing. In general, my conscience is very difficult for me to ignore -- which, incidentally, sometimes leads to me being perhaps a little more generous and yielding than would be healthy. That's its own work in progress. But I have these really deep-seated turn-ons regarding peeing, and pretty much all of them involve some degree of moral infraction. If someone's peeing in a place that's pretty much okay to pee in or on -- anything with a drain, anything outdoors -- that's not very meaningfully attractive. It only counts if it incurs an expense for someone somewhere.

And that's not a very nice thing to be thinking at all. It's led to me wanting to reject those desires, to just... attend to them whenever the urge arises, and then wash my hands of it the next minute, and try and move on with my life. In fact, I think that's a big reason why I've only lurked around on sites like these, rather than contributing actively. I haven't wanted to validate my desires by giving them that much attention. I'd rather satisfy them and then put them right back away.

And peeing in hotel rooms is super hot. I love when someone just pees on a spot like it's a regular urinal, a whole bladderful in one place, and you get a big dark puddle that soaks in and stays there. Not very innocuous at all! And that's what makes it great.

Just now, Maggie_555 said:

Got to agree it's a lot more satisfying to think of my urine remaining in the pool!  Either way it's pretty safe of course, as chlorine (or another chemical) takes care of most potential risks related to urine in the pool water.  Like you I'm happy with anyone peeing in the pool, male or female, young or old.  A few months back I saw an elderly man being helped into the pool by his family, and then helped back out again a couple of minutes later.  From the expression on his face I think he enjoyed a pee in the water and good luck to him.  I've also seen two elderly women sitting in the pool in water just deep enough to cover their crotches. They were sat there for at least half-an-hour so it's likely they peed through their swimsuits twice at least.   

It seems normal enough for people to relax in pools partway in the water. Swim-up bars are a perfect example of why people like to do that. But even without something as obvious as people being served drinks while in the pool, if you're going to sit in the water for an extended period of time, is there anyone who doesn't expect you to pee at least once? You're not even swimming, at that point.

I wonder what the family of that elderly fellow thought about what he was doing. Surely, they must've all been in on it. Maybe they just wanted him to get to enjoy his pee! That'd be nice of them -- to their relative, if not to anyone else they're affecting. But that's usual for this.

1 hour ago, Maggie_555 said:

Yeah I agree and that's why I thought it was weird.  Every other teacher or instructor I came across encouraged use of toilets before entering the pool.  Not that I actually did though!  I'd go in there, flush the toilet, and come out again - then enjoying a pee while I was in the pool.

All right, now, that's a new level of sneaky. Flushing the toilet without doing anything in it first. I suppose I should expect that, though. Maybe I'd do the same, if someone demanded that I used the toilet but I had other plans.

Thankfully, at least, I've never ended up puking in a pool. I've done a number of things with my body in a pool, but that's not on the list. I say thankfully partly because I wouldn't like to be that embarrassed afterward, and partly because it'd be physically unpleasant. Maybe if I were the only person nearby at the time. Hm.

Oh, now, this is amusing. There are all those convenience devices to let women pee while standing, with no mess -- essentially, to let them pee like men. Now here's this to let men do it the other way around. (So what if you used both at the same time?)

Yes, well, we know what you did.

Maggie, I'm glad you and your husband made the choice not to buy that place before deciding to relieve yourself in the water tank. I've never seen a tank set up like that before, but then, I haven't been in a lot of attics. It sounds incredibly daring to empty your bladder within possible earshot of someone who wouldn't approve -- but especially someone who's in the middle of trying to sell the house to you! I wouldn't want to try that often.

1 minute ago, Maggie_555 said:

Must try to find where I read this. From what I remember urine is taken out during a back-flush of the filtration system when 'old' pool water goes to the drains and is replaced by fresh water.  The article said something like "Filters have no effect on urine and it is the chlorine which deals with this to keep a pool safe and hygienic."  I'll try to find the article.

Well, no rush. It'll be a while before I next go to the pool either way. If it's true, it makes the whole thing a lot more satisfying! Personally, I'm happy with people peeing in the pool whether they're guys or girls, but... well, I am what I am, and my bladder is what it is. If people don't like being exposed to its contents -- just as well, they don't have to know.

6 minutes ago, Maggie_555 said:

Hey I know I shouldn't have Spectacle, but I felt able to and couldn't resist the temptation.  I pushed and was successful before I had time to change my mind.  This is something I genuinely regret doing, even though it seemed a great idea at that moment.  Now I'm older I have mixed feelings about urinating into the domestic water supply of that house too. However it wasn't drinking water (although of course it would be used for showering and possibly tooth-brushing too) and I did get an intense thrill from contaminating it then. 

 

Yeah, if you're worried about contamination, it doesn't matter too much if people use it for drinking or not. In parts of the world where the water supply is entirely unsafe for non-locals to drink, bottled water gets used for practically everything. Even for something as innocuous as showering, if even a drop of contaminated water gets in the wrong place, that's that, you're sick. Obviously, this holds true for tooth-brushing as well. But that's pretty straightforward.

Urinating into the water tank might foster bacteria growth, but probably wouldn't render it septic instantly. As for your other business... yeah, that's another matter. I can't blame you for enjoying it, at least. I'd probably have regretted that a lot myself, but if I'm being honest, I might've gotten a massive thrill in the moment too. That's contamination at its finest.

On 10/13/2016 at 8:02 PM, Maggie_555 said:

Thanks Steve, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Let me first say that my daughter was actually aged 21 that year!  (Must admit I've posted things in the past about her activities, saying '18' to keep things nice and legal when she was close to it, and I just did it again.)

Yes, she does accept such behaviour as I quietly gave all 3 of my kids permission to pee in naughty places, if they wanted to, while they were growing-up.  First I encouraged them to pee in swimming pools, as my mother did for me, and as they got older (when there was more CCTV) I showed them places in our home town where they could pee without being seen if they were careful.  I said "If you are desperate to pee..." but they've since told me they guessed it was permission to naughty pee.

There is more to my confession, as after I'd finished my pee in the stockroom my daughter went in to use it as a toilet while I kept a look-out for her.  She told me she'd stood over a smaller box and peed all over it, and even though she's an adult now I said "good girl" which I made her grin!       

Well, here's to you being a good long-time role model for your daughter. Who knows, if she starts a family one day, maybe she'll keep up the trend too, and it'll just go on and on from there. Everyone should enjoy this beautiful kind of behavior, right?

Besides whoever had to deal with the soaked cardboard boxes. But we're not really worried about that. Breakage happens, right?

Seeing as the holiday season is coming around the corner, I suppose you may have the opportunity to revisit some outings like this again. If you do, and you happen to make use of anyplace fun for your toilet, be sure to let us know!

I wish I could say that I have some similar family experiences as these, but alas, I don't. I've only had the internet to help me with this part of my upbringing. (Maggie, looking at you. )

Growing up with parents who all but openly have a pee fetish, I imagine it might be hard not to end up with some latent (or active) interest in it as well. But on the flip side, here I am, from a household where no one ever even talked about these things. The notion of peeing outside a toilet was practically inconceivable. The worst I ever did, with my parents knowing, was to do my thing in a corner of the backyard when I didn't feel like running inside for a pee break. And now, I have pretty much no issue with peeing nearly anywhere that I won't get caught doing it. Even if I'm in public, yeah, I don't care. I'll just find somewhere out of the way, and pee.

Maybe if my parents had been more open about peeing, I might've turned out differently. Maybe I'd be milder-mannered about it all. Or maybe I'd be even more shameless than I am now! No way of knowing.

On 10/14/2016 at 10:39 AM, Maggie_555 said:

Got to say I feel pretty much the same on this.  Pee is still being added to the pool water, whether or not a swimmer has done it on purpose, and I guess the only difference will be in the amount. A swimmer who uses a toilet before getting-in will probably pee less often than others while in the pool, but I feel that's the only difference.

By the way I only recently discovered that when you pee in a pool the filtration system has no effect on it.  Solids are removed by the filters but any urine is pumped right back into the pool.  I like the thought of that!     

 

Despite all my efforts to research about pool peeing, I honestly did not know this. The bit about urine in pools staying entirely in the pool, and not getting filtered out. I guess it doesn't make any difference after all, whether you visit the pool in the morning or evening -- before or after the daily crowds make their way through. Because we all know there'll be a lot more urine sitting in the pool water when the day's over, but for it to be there the next morning, too? Man, public pools are never safe.

On 10/15/2016 at 3:01 AM, uniloo said:

Or in  the case of a swimup bar, you could expand the idea of a 'pee corner' by putting some chairs with a toilet seat (the kind as in some domination/humiliation videos) beneath the water for the women to sit on when they pee. 

You know, they might as well do this. Everyone pees at swim-up bars anyway. That's pretty much the entire point of them. They're bars where you don't have to get up to pee. You just sit and relax and do your thing in the water, and everyone knows it, even if they're not going to say it out loud.

Except for those few people who have just never thought of it, and who get revolted at the idea once they hear of it. Half the time I read discussions about swim-up bars online, even if they're in message boards that have nothing to do with pee, someone will bring up this reality of their use, and someone else will be disgusted and declare that they'll never go swimming in a pool with a bar again! Their loss.

Sounds like fun! I wonder if anyone stumbled upon that wet chair in the library later. They must've had some really odd questions about it.