Moral dilemma

[gldenwetgoose 21,487]

Just now, glad1 said:

Just be careful with whom you let embrace your kink. 🤣

It is a good point that the more we speak and share with like minded people here, the more normal our 'interest' is - because everyone thinks the same as us.

But in the 'other' world, taking the hikers as an example, pee is a necessary bodily function.  They understand the need to be hydrated when exercising, they understand that fluid in means fluid out. They know what the opposite gender's tackle looks like and in all probability they're just conducting a bodily function, just like eating a sandwich or drinking a coffee.  They're close enough friends and respectful enough to not be shy of pulling pants down and squatting discretely, but also respectful to each other to not make a thing of it.

To suddenly express how arousing it is to us - and by implication to announce that the action of them expelling a waste product is turning you on - may not be well received....

All hypothetical of course and by no means suggesting any particular people would do so.

[Guest ShyPeeMan]

3 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

It is a good point that the more we speak and share with like minded people here, the more normal our 'interest' is - because everyone thinks the same as us.

But in the 'other' world, taking the hikers as an example, pee is a necessary bodily function.  They understand the need to be hydrated when exercising, they understand that fluid in means fluid out. They know what the opposite gender's tackle looks like and in all probability they're just conducting a bodily function, just like eating a sandwich or drinking a coffee.  They're close enough friends and respectful enough to not be shy of pulling pants down and squatting discretely, but also respectful to each other to not make a thing of it.

To suddenly express how arousing it is to us - and by implication to announce that the action of them expelling a waste product is turning you on - may not be well received....

All hypothetical of course and by no means suggesting any particular people would do so.

I couldn't do that purely for feeling to embarrassed face to face. It fine here as you said, we're all like minded. 

[glad1 2,832]

22 minutes ago, gldenwetgoose said:

It is a good point that the more we speak and share with like minded people here, the more normal our 'interest' is - because everyone thinks the same as us.

But in the 'other' world, taking the hikers as an example, pee is a necessary bodily function.  They understand the need to be hydrated when exercising, they understand that fluid in means fluid out. They know what the opposite gender's tackle looks like and in all probability they're just conducting a bodily function, just like eating a sandwich or drinking a coffee.  They're close enough friends and respectful enough to not be shy of pulling pants down and squatting discretely, but also respectful to each other to not make a thing of it.

To suddenly express how arousing it is to us - and by implication to announce that the action of them expelling a waste product is turning you on - may not be well received....

All hypothetical of course and by no means suggesting any particular people would do so.

Wise words.

I'd like to think I've always been discrete and respectful. I don't believe I've ever shown any sign of interest without first receiving confirmation that my actions were well-received. I will, though, let others know that I consider pee to be a normal function and there shouldn't be any reason to be embarrassed by a very basic need. In fact, I see my role as being one that make others more comfortable with what is so often an awkward situation. It's only when others express that they see this as fun that I am willing to join in. 

 

Edited January 20, 2022 by glad1

[Alfresco 11,630]

@glad1 and @gldenwetgoose have some good points regarding outdoor groups and the relaxed peeing that can occur within them.    Maybe joining some kind of outdoor activity group could give you at lease some degree of ability to see ladies peeing.   However, the comments above about a lot of people just seeing peeing as a natural process that they know they will need to do are very valid.   Some groups might be more open about it than others as well, so joining a group doesn't guarantee you the sort of freedom in group peeing that @glad1 has been lucky to see.

As a for example, I used to be an active member of a kayaking club.   We used to go out in groups of up to 30 people often for full days and often away from toilets.  Most people, male or female would have no hesitation in peeing outside.  However, it was customary for the men to pee separately from the women.   Generally the women would go in one direction into the bushes and men would go the other way.  They weren't embarrassed about what they were doing and would quite happily announce they were going for a pee, but they didn't want to drop their kit in front of the men.  

Having said that, I did see girls peeing on multiple occasions through that club.   e.g. I once saw a lady peeing in some trees by a river.   I went over there to pee myself and she was squatted leaning against a tree and washing down the embankment.   When she saw me approaching she called out "woman peeing here" which was meant to mean "give me privacy".   I just apologised and said I'd find a different space and she was fine with that.  She didn't try to hide or anything and she didn't get upset, but it was obvious that she would prefer privacy.   

I have helped several women get over their embarrassment about peeing outdoors when they have been kayaking, which has paid dividends, but it has always been on the basis of playing it down as a natural thing to do and telling them not to worry about it.

 

[glad1 2,832]

On 1/20/2022 at 7:39 AM, Alfresco said:

I have helped several women get over their embarrassment about peeing outdoors when they have been kayaking, which has paid dividends, but it has always been on the basis of playing it down as a natural thing to do and telling them not to worry about it.

An excellent point, one that can't be overstressed.

Nearly all the dividends I received were the result of my playing it down, as well. Perhaps, too, I was the beneficiary of being in one-on-one situations where there were no established rules.

 

 

[WetNightmare 40]

On 1/15/2022 at 4:10 PM, Adyguy6970 said:

I would like to say there was an easy solution to this one but I can't - because there isn't.  Kinks wax and wane over time, and I think it's to do with the levels of hormones in our bodies at any one point of time, as well as external pressures and factors.  One of the difficulties around porn, whether it's online or in magazine form, is that by degrees things which should shock us, and probably did when we first saw them, cease to have a shock value.  You are in a difficult place right now, especially with your marriage being not at its best, however you're also in a good place in the sense that you recognise there's a problem and could see it.  As a pee lover myself, it's only with the gravest reluctance that I would encourage someone to take a break from watching pee related material or any other kind of adult material, as I believe it fulfils an important function.  However, if exposure to it is leading you into a place where the distinction between fantasy and reality is becoming blurred, or your relationship is at risk because of it, perhaps it may be time to take a break and concentrate on your marital relationship for a while.  All relationships have their stresses and strains from time to time.  This is why it's important to take some quality time out and create memories/experiences which you can share and enjoy together.  

That sounds like a common sense practical answer but on a fetish website I'm not sure we need to have that as we don't want to lose a fiend.

[Guest ShyPeeMan]

14 minutes ago, WetNightmare said:

That sounds like a common sense practical answer but on a fetish website I'm not sure we need to have that as we don't want to lose a fiend.

All things usually have a common sense solution, but we're all human and don't always think straight.

[WetNightmare 40]

On 1/19/2022 at 9:45 PM, glad1 said:

Not at all!

These women have been either friends or those I ran across in hiking/outdoor clubs. Given that their chosen activities would take them away from toilet facilities, most all had no problem with peeing outside. The more time we spent on the trail, the more comfortable we became with one another. I found that most women I hiked with were at least pee-curious. A good number seemed to find pleasure in the act of urination, sometimes their own, but usually those of the male gender. After a few hikes, I learned which ones liked to watch, those who enjoyed a tease by showing off and the ones who always had to pee when I did.

Did anyone women expose their insides while pissing? Did you make a thread about it?