littlebladder

I think children should be allowed to pee outside as long as it's approprate for that situation. If they're hiking in the countryside or on a road trip with facilities far away then I think they should be taught that it is OK to pee outside as long as they find somewhere private where other people are unlikely to see them.

It's important to learn that it's acceptable in these circumstances or they might struggle with it if they need to pee outside when they are older. While it's no different for boys, it's a bit of a skill for a girl to squat down and pee while keeping their clothes out of the way and not getting pee on their clothes or shoes, hence parents lifting younger girls to make it easier for them. I bet there's a lot of woman who have never peed outside and find themselves in a mess when they suddenly find themselves needing to. Being comfortable with peeing outside as a child would avoid this.

With camping it depends how far away the toilet is and how near other tents are. It seems a bit wrong if the toilets are close by but if it's a long walk and there's somewhere private to go away from other campers I don't have an issue with it.

Can anyone watch any videos on Pissrip? All I am getting is "Video is being processed, please come back later". 

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I've not been in a hot tub many times and when I have it's been with my family and we have all peed in the toilet before we got in. Wouldn't it get smelly if multiple people peed in it? It's chlorinated but there's a lot less water than in a swimming pool so it'll be more concentrated I'd have thought? 

On 10/27/2021 at 8:05 PM, dltq said:

Around my grade level at the time (1-4, 5-8, 9-12).

It's interesting that there is a pattern of downward and forward pee'ers with age. I'm interested to know how much this continues in adulthood. Is a 20 something year old more likely to be a forward pee'er than a 40 something year old? Does having kids make a difference too?

On 10/27/2021 at 12:35 AM, Dr.P said:

The physiological changes in the girls, that you propose, are possible, but I think psychological factors may be equally, or even more important. They can be largely voluntary, in response to perceived or actual social pressures. Downward-directed streams going straight into the toilet water are neater, and less messy than forward or mid-angle directed streams, which may splatter the seats, the girls' legs, and even wet their clothing. So the mothers of the youngest girls probably trained them to direct their streams downward, to minimize the mess.

As the girls get older, and more aware of their sounds, they may become embarrassed, or even face overt or covert ridicule, if their sounds are perceived to be too loud, by themselves, or by other girls. Some girls don't care about this, but others are more self-conscious and sensitive, so they learn to aim their streams at the walls of the toilet, which reduces the sound volume substantially, even if they occasionally hit the rim or the seat. These psychological factors would explain the changes toward forward streams from downward streams, for the girls in late grade school, and early high school, as their social awareness develops.

The change back to downward streams in late high school may simply reflect some reversal of this process, as the girls become less anxious about sounds, and more aware of the potential messiness of their peeing processes, with the practical decision to mitigate that, by peeing downward, insofar as possible.

Perhaps the mothers teach the girls to lean forwards during toilet training to prevent the pee from coming up over the toilet seat. As the girls get older, they grow and so sit further back on the toilet which makes this less of an issue so they figure out they don't need to do it. Larger bladder capacity meaning they wait longer could also result in a more powerful stream that shoots forward. 

As for the stream being more downwards at college age, maybe they start to lean forwards again to reduce mess as you have mentioned. 

On 10/24/2021 at 10:26 AM, dltq said:

Interesting.

I discovered my fetish when I was in first or second grade, and something I found from all the dumb shit I did back then was that most of the pissing noises I heard were the downward type.

Between my fourth and eighth grade years, I noticed more of the forward type.

Then, when I was in high school, I noticed a general trend toward more of the forward type among freshmen and sophomores to noticeably more of the downward type among juniors and seniors.

Now that I'm in college, I don't know. It's much harder to obtain good readings now without getting in trouble (and the risk of getting caught is a BIG turn-off for me).

I presume the streams you heard were of girls the same age as you at the time? If so, it suggests that a girls stream is more fowards as they get older, perhaps as their body develops or maybe as their bladders are able to hold more pee and so the pressure is a bit greater by the time they reach high school and college.

I can't explain the trend back towards the downward type after this though. 

On 10/23/2021 at 8:20 PM, Sophie said:

I don't encourage my two daughters to pee outside, I'd rather they used the toilet but if they really need to go and they can't wait I will find somewhere for them to squat, as hidden as possible. I'd do the same if I had a son. I'm not going to encourage them to pee outside if there's a perfectly good toilet available, but I don't mind if they need to do it. 

This is the right attitude to have in my opinion. I don't think it's right when parents let their kids pee in public for convenience if there's a toilet nearby they can use. But they shouldn't be made to hold it if there isn't one available just because they are a girl and it's a bit more difficult and not quite as discrete as for a boy.

Being comfortable with going outside is important as it allows them to go for long walks in the country etc without worrying about the lack of toilets. I wonder how many girls avoid long outdoor walks, wild camps etc once they are adults because their parents made them feel that peeing outside is wrong?

I'm sure your attitude has made it easier for your girls when they needed to pee with no toilet nearby? Being OK with going outside, knowing how to squat etc.

On 9/22/2021 at 6:58 AM, beachmom said:

I've never taken boys to a toilet, I'll either leave them to choose a place to go on their own or I'll advise them where to do.  As it's been said, it's quicker, easier and good for boys to become confident doing it elsewhere. There will be times when boys will be expected to piss in public and they need to learn to become comfortable with doing so.

Never? Even if you are stood next to the toilet block or are in a building? Or do you mean if you are somewhere outdoors with a toilet a walk away and there's a tree they can go on so they use that instead?

What about girls? Would you feel the same or would you be more inclined to find them a toilet?

A woman having a long desperate pee that is hissing loudly is very hot indeed!

I wouldn't dare put that sound on in my car though. Firstly in case someone heard but more importantly I wouldn't be able to concentrate on my driving!

On 8/31/2021 at 5:48 PM, Panther95 said:

Anyway I can't tell much about the way for girls allowed to but I can imagine it's still that common "rule", that girls have to be "girly like", clean, well behaved. I often witnessed when a boy burps or talks about pissing or something like that, they are less strong admonished than a girl who does it. 🤔

Isn't it sad that some parents act like that yet bodily functions are the same for girls and boys. A girl needs to burp, fart, pee and poop just the same as a boy and it's not always possible to hold a pee until a toilet is available.

On 9/1/2021 at 10:26 PM, Peevert said:

I don't have kids, but if I did, I would let both my sons and daughters pee outside when needed.  Ideally a girl is wearing a skirt, giving her more privacy.  But even if she is wearing pants, just pull them down, with her private parts facing a tree or building, just as her brother would pee on a tree or building.     

I feel exactly the same about this. I don't have kids either but if I did I would let them, boy or girl, pee outside if they had to. I'd teach them to find somewhere private to go such as behind a tree or bush as I wouldn't want them to think they could drop their underwear and pee anywhere as that would cause issues as they got older. I guess daughters might need to be held up if really young and need to be taught how to squat properly if they're a bit older, unlike sons, but I would always make sure they could go if they needed to. 

I certainly wouldn't expect my daughter to hold it for hours while my son could pee wherever he liked.

On 9/1/2021 at 10:38 PM, Peevert said:

And this reminds me of something I saw about 30 years ago.  A father and his young son and daughter got out of a car, the father pointed toward the corner of a building (did not say a word) and both of the kids ran over there and peed.  I was kind of shocked, I had never seen that before (or since).  The boy unzipped and peed on the building, the girl, right next to him, squatted and peed on the ground.  I wondered if she was wearing panties, and if she was taught that it was okay to wet them in certain situations, like this one.   Now that she's a 40-something adult, I'd love to meet her and ask. 😄 

Seems strange for her to pee through her underwear. That almost removes the need to stop in the first place other than keeping the car clean. At least he was happy for them to pee outside!

On 7/25/2021 at 7:46 PM, jmatthews1995 said:

I'm sure it has probably already been said, but my huge pet peave is when the lady is wriggling like crazy, grabbing herself, holding on like she's seconds away from wetting, and then when she finally can go, it takes ages to start and then you get a tiny little 10 second pee or wetting. I LOVE full blown FLOODS!! 😛 

This winds me up as well. "I need to go soooo badly" followed by the shortest dribble of pee. If you're that desperate I expect a long loud hissy pee!

1 hour ago, NaughtyPisserLover said:

4- Girls pissing in the toilet, that's boring as hell

I disagree. If it's a really loud desperate piss it's a huge turn on for me. But a short slow tinkle less so.

On 8/23/2021 at 11:01 AM, Sweets said:

Neither of my parent had a problem with me peeing outside.  It was no big deal.  I would go fishing with my dad  if I had to pee he would tell me go in woods. I remember a couple time peeing on the side of the road on trips.    Playing outside if I didn’t want to come inside I go in the bushs squat and pee.  Me and my brother was playing in the pool out front one day. We Went in the bushes I pulled my bathing suit to the side he watched me pee then I watched him.  He use to pee in front of me all the time he would just whip it out an piss anywhere his mom use to yell at him all the time to stop pee where people could see him 

Yeah peeing behind a bush is often the only option when fishing lol!

It looks like peeing outside was very convenient for you so it's sad that some girls are made to feel they should never pee outside. I guess the only difficulty for a girl is getting the squat right and not peeing on your clothes!

On 8/23/2021 at 2:16 AM, Alfresco said:

I don’t know about generally, but myself and my sister both peed outside if the need arose.  We were a very outdoors family.

 

I suppose you didn't have much choice if you spent a lot of time outdoors away from toilets. 😂

On 8/23/2021 at 2:16 AM, Alfresco said:

my daughter peed outside a few times when she was younger but as she grew up she showed less interest in outdoor activities so didn’t ever need to pee outside.  However, neither my wife nor me would prevent her peeing outside if she had needed to.

 

Clearly spending a lot of time in the country as a child has given you the right attitude about peeing outside, and presumably your wife had a similar experience growing up?

Would your daughter still be comfortable with peeing outside now if the need ever arose or would she be hesitant and try and wait for a toilet? I suppose the issue with not needing to do it as she grew up is she might be more self concious now so might not like the idea?

On 8/23/2021 at 1:25 AM, Alfresco said:

I don’t remember it ever being discussed.  We all peed outside in the country, mum included, so we didn’t see it as something for which we needed to seek permission.  

I suppose if your Mum had got you to pee outside in the country while out walking or something then you knew it'd be OK to do while playing with friends. I guess that was your permission. 

6 hours ago, Girllikespee said:

My mother always acted as if peeing outside was the most inappropriate thing in the world. If we ever saw anyone peeing she would call them disgusting, even if it was a kid. She always told us we had no choice to hold it until we got to a toilet. I'm not sure what the big deal was. 

I think it definitely contributed to the large bladder capacity I have now though!

Did you spend much time hiking in the countryside away from toilets or did you spend your time nearer to toilets because of her attitude?

It's sad that you never got a chance to pee outside if you needed to go. I get a parent being against peeing down an alley or something in the middle of town but behind a bush in the countryside is fine. You must have spent your time feeling so uncomfortable and hoping you'd find a toilet soon 😔

5 hours ago, glad1 said:

That might explain a few things.

Based on what I noticed out on the trails, I'd have thought I had at least above normal bladder capacity. The vast majority of my hiking partners would seem to need to pee before I did.

Of course, most all of them had long been comfortable with the outdoors, a great many exposed to it as a child and likely given the okay to pee whenever and wherever they felt full. 

But, there were some who could last all day, or at least would only pee once for every two or three of mine. I think to a woman they were told as a child to hold until they got to a toilet.

It could just be that they have a large bladder capacity or don't spend much time outdoors so are shy about peeing outside. But yes it could also be that they were discouraged from peeing outside as a child and have retained that attitude as an adult.

Following on from the "Are Moms More Open-minded Than Their Sons Today?" thread by @beachmom, I wondered whether there's any truth in the statement in the title of the thread?

After all, a boy can stand up and pee facing a tree in the same way he would pee in a toilet or urinal and he is a lot more discrete. A girl, on the other hand, needs a lot more privacy because girls peeing outside expose more of their private areas. It is also trickier for a girl to pee outside, especially if she hasn't done so before, as it's easy to end up with pee on the shoes, legs and clothes if the squat isn't done quite right. Therefore a mother is going to have to teach her daughter the correct technique, (assuming she has mastered it herself!), and will probably have to help her a few times before she can pee outside on her own.

Because of this, it seems mums are happy to let their son pee outside in most cases, but many prefer to make their daughters hold it until they get to a toilet unless they really can't wait any longer. This can lead to cases where the boy can pee outside but the sister is made to wait.

Is this a common occurance or just a small number of mothers that are against girls peeing outside? Has this made young women afraid to pee outside as adults? Or are attitudes generally the same regardless of gender?

On 8/17/2021 at 8:20 AM, Alfresco said:

Necessary because we were out all day and drank fluids, so it was necessary to pee.  Nobody wanted to waste time going home to pee (we often played in places half an hour walk from home) and if we went home there was a chance we wouldn’t be able to go back out.   So we peed outside or in an old building that had no doors or windows.   Generally we sought a little privacy, but nobody was that over protective and nobody thought anything of it if someone went over to a bush or behind a fence.  Everyone knew what was happening, but nobody was bothered.

It was natural, because once we had done it a few times, none of us even considered anything else - it just became the natural thing to do.

Sometimes on the building site we went behind diggers, dumpers or piles of materials or used the walls of the part built houses for cover or even went in the part built rooms.  I remember that there were times when we would decide that one of the rooms of a part built house was going to be the bathroom, and we all would go there to pee.   Usually individually or a couple of boys or girls together,  but by the end of the session that room would have several streams down the walls from the boys and puddles on the floor from the girls.   Both in that situation and the old abandoned building, although we mostly went separately, there were times when I went with girls and saw them squat to pee whilst I peed against a wall.  It was a bit of childhood fascination a kind of “I’ll show you mine if you show me yours” sort of thing.  

So did your Mum ever say to you and your sister that you can pee outside if you need to when out playing so you don't have to walk all the way back home, or was it something you, your sister and friends just decided to do whether you Mum would mind or not for convenience? I guess if she was happy for you to do it when walking in the countryside then you knew she'd be fine with it anyway?

Women certainly pee loudly, whether it's splashing into the bowl or the hissing sound they make as it comes out the urethra. 

Do women tend to push the pee out faster instead of letting it out naturally, or does it come out loud and fast naturally if they're desperate?

You do see women produce quite little trickles sometimes but that seems more common if their bladder isn't very full so there's not much pee to come out. 

15 hours ago, Alfresco said:

Totally agree. It reminds me of this cartoon:

 

Haha yes that's about right these days 😂

15 hours ago, Alfresco said:

Yes, they had no qualms about it - it was just a necessary and natural thing to do.   

How did it become necessary and natural? Was it being told to pee outside by a parent when out in the country or something that was picked up from friends or siblings?

On 8/11/2021 at 3:05 PM, Alfresco said:

@beachmom and @gldenwetgoose, yes, I think you are both right.  The kids of today are a different breed and don't get the opportunity to be out on their own for hours, partly because they have no interest in doing so and would prefer to spend time on their gaming or social media and partly because the amount of press and media coverage that we have now shows that children shouldn't be out on their own because there is so much danger and hazards as well as dodgy people out there.   When I was a kid, we used to roam free and go on tarzan swings over valleys, climb trees and love playing on building sites and if we fell off a parked up digger or from a partially built house then we'd get told off for being so careless and stupid - these days you can't fall do that anyway as everything is fenced off because the contractors would be sued if someone was stupid enough to get up to mischief and hurt themselves.   As you say, @gldenwetgoose, we would stretch out being outside as long as we could because we knew that going home meant the end of the fun for that day.  We had no mobile phones or other ways for the parents to contact us, so they often didn't have a clue where we were or what we were doing.

So now, the youngsters haven't had the experience of being out for hours and peeing outside with their friends and that is why they find it strange, so as @beachmom has noted, they are reluctant to do so and think it is an odd habit - especially when there is a toilet nearby.  Maybe the mums of the current 10s to teens are the last of the people who used to pee outside when they were young, so they don't find it strange themselves, but the kids do.  Certainly when I was a youngster, my sister and her friends had no qualms about peeing outside and my sister now has a 10 year old boy.  Having said that, he doesn't seem bothered about peeing outside - he doesn't hesitate when the need arises.

 

It's definitely different for kids now @Alfresco, most of whom prefer to be on games consoles and computers than outside with their mates. This plus a more risk-averse society these days means kids spend more time indoors. Some kids do spend time outside I'm sure so boys peeing outside will still happen. And then you've got families who are into hiking or camping etc who will think nothing of it. But for a boy who lives in a city and who's parents never take him to the countryside, I can see why he would be reluctant to do so.

I know when I was a child I was told to wait initially but was told to pee outside if I said I was desperate. I've always been a bit shy with it though so I don't think I ever did it much. I have only done it a small number of times as an adult as well. As it happens, my Mum doesn't seem bothered at all about me peeing outside and has even encouraged it on a few occassions when I've said I needed to go when out walking in the countryside but I normally choose to wait even if I'm desperate. I just struggle going if I'm not somewhere private.

It's interesting that your sister and her friends were happy to pee outside too. I always thought that boys were generally more willing because it's easier and more discrete. Girls have to learn how to squat and avoid peeing on their clothes. It's something that they probably need to be shown by their Mum or a friend or older sibling to avoid making a mess of themselves. For boys it's no different to peeing in a toilet or urinal. 

On 7/14/2021 at 5:14 PM, Boystoiletlover said:

I would think young women/little girls wouldn’t usually have hissy pees....more trickles....but maybe if you have a tight girl you would hiss more as there’s less room for a girl’s pee to come out 

Why don't you think younger girls would usually have hissy pees? There's a lot of videos where younger girls pee with loud hissy streams. There are also videos where they only produce a trickle though, but whether that's normal or just because they wanted to record a pee without waiting ages for the girl's bladder to fill I don't know?

If a female finds themselves needing to pee outside and no one is with them to show them, do they get into a half squat position more like sitting on a toilet or do you naturally get into a lower squat?

What about holding clothes out of the way of the stream? Do you realise to do this at first or only after getting wet trousers/knickers the first time?

There's a shortage of public toilets these days as it is so more being closed due to the pandamic is going to cause a lot more desperate situations.

Yes i've noticed I hiss occassionally as well, but never as often or as loud as females do.