Pee Porn and the Law

[greedyneedygirl 4,058]

I was wondering whether anyone on this forum had an insight into pornography and the law, specifically related to urolagnia, the very subject of this excellent site. It seems, that there are clearly examples of vintage photographs and publications dating back to the introduction of photography in the late 1800's, even before that artists were exploring the subject, often clandestine, and tucked away, (The artist Turner used to make pornographic drawings for his own consumption). During the post-war years, the idea of purchasing photographs and magazines became an 'under the shelf' activity, (see the film 'Peeping Tom'). During the permissive years of the 60's and 70's, it seemed that Denmark and Sweden had more liberal attitudes to pornography. Hence, a magazine like 'Sex Bizarre', published about four times a year, openly on sale in Sex Shops in Holland, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, but strictly 'under-the-counter' in the UK Sex Shops in our Cities, and Soho. So, where do we stand now? It seems that many of the images sourced here are from amateur home grown, internet based sites. The use of mobile phones, digital cameras has liberated pornography, but what can and can't be shown? Countries like Hungary and the Czech republic seem to have monopolised the production of pornography that includes water sports. What is the position in the US and Australia?

In my local newsagent the so called 'Adult' magazines have a paper band around them as a form of censorship, there are one or two Adult Bookshops in the City, that I dare not enter, as a woman. The internet, as we all know can be a 'dark' place, and I realise that there has to be some restrictions. But I have found a site where I can download scanned versions of the magazines that were once sold in a brown paper bag, 'under the shelf', or behind the facade of an adult bookshop. I find that infinitely interesting, the 'digital' web-oriented reproduction of printed, analogue material. However, I can't help thinking that before the advent of the World Wide Web, the thrill of shiftily entering an adult shop, and asking for something a 'little stronger', must have been like buying an illegal drug. What do so called 'Adult shops' sell now? How do they survive? More to the point, are there any remaining 'printed' magazines dedicated to the fetish of peeing, or is it all on the internet, and where is it coming from? Comments welcome!

[greedyneedygirl 4,058]

...sorry, forgot to mention Japan! They have rather an unusual set of double standards, where they 'pixelate' female genitalia, but not the 'anus' for some unknown reason!

[UnauthorisedGuy 474]

Responsibility for censorship in Australia is divided between the Commonwealth and the States and Territories. As a result, the regulatory system is complex, but in simple terms the States, Territories and Federal government have agreed to establish a co-operative national classification scheme. Under this scheme, films, publications and computer games can be ''refused classification". Depictions of "Fetishes such as body piercing, application of substances such as candle wax, 'golden showers', bondage, spanking or fisting" will be refused classification.

With respect to the internet, if a complaint is made about material on the internet, and the material is found to fall within the refused classification category, then:

• if the site is hosted in Australia, a "takedown notice" can be issued and the material must be removed from the site, or
  
• if the site is hosted outside Australia, the site is added to a list of banned sites.
  

But as Wikipedia notes, there is an ''almost complete lack of interest" in enforcing the internet censorship laws. In other words, there's currently nothing stopping Aussies from downloading pee porn from the internet.

Long may the lack of interest in enforcement continue!