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It was a much better version of this screen capture in a Penthouse magazine in 1999. I knew I was into pee, but to find out that others were and taking photos and publishing it was jaw dropping.

I think the idea of a woman standing to pee stuck into my brain pretty early on and some how in either 98 or 99 I ended up at https://web.archive.org/web/20000619200950/http://www.restrooms.org/. Which had the how to guide for “the finger assist method” and eventually an early FUD that Denise would sell. The mailbox area was super interesting.