Why do you like to see peeing?

[F.W 5,734]

Can you define WHY you developed a fetish like this?Mine is all about "where do girls pee from"?Ever since a kid,it was a like a double experience,to see girls were different and see a girl pee at the same time,ive never lost my fascination with where it actually comes out.They have this "slit thing",that i thought how the hell does THAT work then?I do know nowadays,the pinhole between clitoris and vagina,but still it amazes me girls perform this intimate act in such a different way to myself."Vive la difference" as the French say.To me its less about where its done,"naughty peeing" etc,but to watch the act itself,to watch a girl expel urine from her body is one of the mysteries of life itself!

So,i guess to me,its all about the voyeurism.Which is why my fantasies tend to be more just about being in ladies toilets.

[whiz kid 201]

I'm like you where I prefer the natural act of urination in a non-posed way.  There's the thrill of seeing her most private body parts closeup; the round buttocks, the delicate vaginal lips, and even the tight anus.  And then the ultimate thrill of seeing pee exit her body how the urine stream interacts with the pussy at very stages of the pee session. 

[steve25805 126,149]

Well I am one of those seriously into naughty peeing so location for me is probably even more of a focus than source. But I like to see the girl too and not just the pee splashing down. If the girl herself is not in view, 95% of the eroticism would be absent.

It is not easy to pin down why this interests me so much. I find it easier to explain how this interest developed - and have done so several times - than to describe what exactly it is about it that works for me.

I think certainly, the act of peeing accentuates the anatomical differences between the genders and did so for me at an age when I was too young to understand the sexual differences. So girls peeing accentuated their femininity, and thus eroticised the peeing for me at an age when other forms of eroticism were unknown to me. And my sexual interest in it stayed with me and blossomed. Then there is a combination of both naughtiness and taboo. Because for me, taboo naughtiness can itself be sexy. The more outrageous the location a girl pees in, the more taboo and naughty - and thus erotic - it is. 

I think it is therefore for me the sheer taboo naughtiness in combination with femininity and a hint of wildness and not giving a fuck, which makes it erotic for me. And girls laughing as they pee somewhere outrageous.....doing it for amusement and a laugh....works a lot for me because it kind of evokes an attitude of not giving a fuck whilst being aware that they aren't supposed to be peeing there, hence the amusement.

It is very hard to pin down more succinctly than that. I guess the combination of deliberate naughtiness with femininity is at the heart of it for me.

[F.W 5,734]

To be honest,its really about the female genitalia with me,the pee is like a bonus.There really is something so aesthetic about the female privates..

[whiz kid 201]

2 hours ago, fannywatcher said:

To be honest,its really about the female genitalia with me,the pee is like a bonus.There really is something so aesthetic about the female privates..

 

Agreed.  Especially when the girl hover pees in the toilet.  There's something very primal about the way the butt sticks out and how her hips are thrusted to expose the pussy as much as possible.  It's very similar to how she would position herself in order to receive sex "doggy-style."  

[F.W 5,734]

But really to me,its all about the beauty,..and how do they pee out of it?I guess a sense of awe.

[Dr.P 1,473]

steve25805 wrote:

"It is not easy to pin down why this interests me so much. I find it easier to explain how this interest developed,- and have done so several times- than to describe what exactly it is about it that works for me."

"I think certainly, the act of peeing accentuates the anatomical differences between the genders, and did so for me at an age when I was too young to understand the sexual differences. So girls peeing accentuated their femininity, and thus eroticised the peeing for me at an age when other forms of eroticism were unknown to me. And my sexual interest stayed with me and blossomed."

I think this sums part of it up quite well for me, also. In addition, there are the intimacy and beauty aspects mentioned by fannywatcher and whiz kid.

For me, the variety of individual female anatomies is a huge factor in my interest. There is the size, shape, location, and natural exit angle of the urethra, and the size, shape, and separation of the lips, interacting with the stream. All of these affect the size, shape, strength, and trajectory of the stream, gush, or spray. These characteristics strongly affect women's selection of individual peeing styles for practical reasons, like keeping clothing, toilet seats, and legs from getting wet, along with concerns about intimacy and privacy.

The natural exit angle of the stream from the urethra is a good example. This is the angle that the stream makes with the woman's spine, as it leaves her body, while she is sitting on a toilet. Zero degrees means that it goes straight down, into the toilet. Normal, upright seated peeing styles work well for these women. Ninety degrees means that it goes straight forward, horizontally, potentially wetting her legs, her panties, the toilet seat, and the floor in front of the toilet. The usual adjustment for women with this natural exit angle is to lean forward at the hips to reduce the actual exit angle to within manageable limits, so the stream enters the toilet, without getting them wet.. Alternatives are squatting or standing, which often work well for these women.

Natural angles between 0 and 60 or 70 degrees mean that her stream arcs into the bowl with little interaction with her body, clothing, or her surroundings, so adjustments may depend on other factors, like clothing preferences or modesty. Natural angles greater than 90 degrees are uncommon, but not unknown, meaning that her stream might spray the fronts or tops of her thighs, while she is sitting down. They obviously require major adjustments in peeing style, just to get through daily life, in the Western world. These women are usually the ones who can pee standing up straight, "like a guy."

The size, shape, and separation of the lips can have additional influences upon the stream, and its control, as well as whether it sprays, sprinkles, or hisses. With all of these individual variations, just watching and listening to women pee is absolutely fascinating to me. I try to guess the anatomies and peeing styles of women I meet in person, as well as celebrities and personalities on TV, by watching their normal sitting styles and body language. News anchors are among my favorites, because they can be observed sitting, for long periods of time. In some cases, they may even inadvertently display their desperate need to pee, while they are on camera.

Seeing a woman pee gives me a very intimate, intense connection with her, which I enjoy immensely. It also tells me a lot about her anatomy, and how it may have helped shape her personality and sexual attitudes. My own observations and experiences indicate that correlations between preferred peeing styles and attitudes toward sex exist.

Dr. P.

 

[WetKecks 34]

Aside from my explanation in my introduction thread?

This.....

How the hell does it go sideways round the back???  Mine doesn't no matter which way I angle my dangle.  And you can tell from further down her leg that she was standing when she let 'er rip.  Not only does it seem to defy physics, it makes me incredibly horny and lonely.

[Dr.P 1,473]

WetKecks, I think it travels sideways by "wicking" through the cloth of the jeans, or other clothing. We see the same kind of thing when women pee through pantyhose.

[PissDude 479]

I don't remember not being into this. I guess it is about the beauty and difference and intimacy of the female form. When a girl feels close enough to you to expose her private parts, it's a good thing. When I was a child, when you have to go, you have to go. And if you're playing with girls and adults aren't watching and you need to go, you just do it. And a few times, the girls would squat down and go. Then they grew out of it, and you didn't get to see it anymore. And then it became a prohibition, which made you want to see it because you can't. It becomes mysterious. Then the Internet comes along, and you can see it whenever you want.

I can explain why I enjoy seeing women pee, but not quite how I came to associate it with sexual pleasure. For me, an orgasm kind of feels like it does to finally take a massive leak, or losing control and pissing wildly. It comes out of nowhere and can't be stopped.

If that doesn't make sense, this forum is the first place in my life I've ever tried to discuss this fetish outside of my own mind.

[Dr.P 1,473]

Peeing: The Sexiest Thing a Woman Can Do?

Hi PissDude,

I don't remember not being into this, either, although my childhood experiences were a lot different from yours. My mother, and later, my younger sisters, all peed with the bathroom door open, most of the time. But they sat on the toilet with their thighs together, and wiped from the rear, with their legs still together, so I couldn't see their streams, or how their pee actually came out. I could hear, and even smell it, but it was mysterious, and forbidden, because they wouldn't open their legs, and let me see how it came out. So it became a source of intense interest and curiosity for me.

When I was in early elementary school, I was lucky enough to look up the skirt of a girl, when she had just come back from the "little girls room." I saw pee dribbles on her thighs, and wondered how they got there. I had never seen a girl my age pee, and this served to intensify my curiosity, even more. A couple of years later, I got one possible answer to my burning question, when I heard my mother yelling at my sister, on the toilet, "Bend over, so you don't get your legs and the toilet seat all wet!"

Apparently, then, the girl in my school may have been sitting up straight when she peed, her pee came out straight frontward and wet her thighs, and she didn't bother to wipe them. Or it may have been a very urgent pee, which went wild and sprinkled her thighs. This girl often smelled like pee, so it is possible that some anatomical characteristic caused her to wet her legs many of the times when she peed. I am still fascinated by the possibilities, to this day. So I think I understand the curiosity and prohibition part, which you speak of, pretty well, from my own early experiences.

The connection of peeing with sexuality is more complicated and tenuous, as you point out, for both genders, I think. Many people never make the connection between peeing and sex, even though both acts involve the same body parts. That may explain why peeing is a sexual turn-on for some, and of no interest at all, to others. I think you are on the right track, when you compare orgasms to taking a massive leak, or losing control, and pissing wildly, at least in yourself. I would take that one step further, and apply it to females, as well. I believe, and have actually been told by a few women, that the feelings of relief from an urgent pee and an orgasm are similar, and very pleasurable.

The act of urination involves relinquishing control, or "letting go." somewhat similar to having an orgasm, and once started, is difficult or impossible to stop or control. Women usually have very good control over their bodies, except when they are having an orgasm, or peeing. That's one of many reasons why I love to watch them pee, Their streams occasionally get out of control, and wet their legs, other body parts, clothing, or surroundings, like toilet seats and floors. Some will stop peeing immediately, or take other corrective actions, while others will just let it happen, and see to the cleanup afterward. My curiosity makes me love being there to see their loss of control, and what parts of their bodies get wet, and to help with the cleanup, using my tongue on their lips, legs, and other body parts.

The potential connection with sexual intimacy is very strong, I believe. Nudity, with a sexual partner, is a basic level of intimacy. When a girl or woman shows you her private parts it's a big turn-on, as you say. But when a girl or woman lets a partner watch her pee, or better yet, shows him how she pees, the intimacy is at a far deeper level, I think. Women's anatomies, and the details of the ways their pee comes out, have a wide variety, from well controlled, round, straight streams, like a guy's, to gushing, torrents. They may or may not hiss, a uniquely feminine sound. The character of their streams may vary from time to time and from day to day, depending on urgency and other circumstances. Their preferred styles (sitting, squatting, standing; legs apart or together) reflect the usual character of their streams, but may vary with situations like dirty public facilities, which induce them to squat or stand, rather than sit. So seeing and knowing how a woman pees gives a deep insight into a very intimate part of her daily life, and even her personality and character. (Is she shy, modest, and withdrawn, or open, confident, and exhibitionistic?)

The desire for that level of intimacy with women, plus the curiosity I was apparently born with, is why I like to see women pee. I think peeing is the sexiest thing a woman can do, and the greatest turn-on for a man to see, far more than mere nudity. As soon as I become attracted to a woman, whether she is a friend,  lover, or even a TV personality or news anchor, I begin to wonder how she pees. I try to guess, and figure it out, from how she sits and stands, and other body language. Is she comfortable sitting with her legs apart, or does she keep them pressed tightly together, or crossed? Does she take standing, sitting, or high or low squatting positions, in ordinary activities, while clothed, which she may also use, when she pees?

Dr. P.

 

[Ducex777 37]

 

Resurrecting an old topic because I find it so thought-provoking.

A lone incident of watching a girl pee in the woods next to me was all it took. We were 18, already sexually mature, but I guess it's never too late to develop a new kink. I've detailed the story in my introductory post. 

Everyone has already touched on the anatomical differences which make it a turn-on at the most basic level. I think everyone has the potential for a pee fetish. When girls pee outdoors, why do they often have friends standing around to 'block' the way? So nobody looks. But why would anybody even WANT to look unless there was a temptation involved, unless catching sight of the girl pissing had some erotic potential? Why are those accused of looking or trying to look usually called perverts?

But the girl that hip-checked me into this fetish has the most to do with it. I already found her extremely attractive, but she was a prude. Never had a boyfriend before 18 or had any sexual experience. She had awesome tits but always tried to hide them with big t-shirts. Even catching the SLIGHTEST hint of flesh from this girl (as much as a belly button or a hint of thigh) for me was like seeing other girls naked, as she was my crush in high school. The day I saw her pee was the first time I saw her wearing a formfitting shirt and short shorts. Again, the fact that she hid her body made it all the more desirable. So when she and I were smoking weed in the woods before she peed, i was satisfied just to finally see her legs, as shapely as in my fantasies.

So when she announced she had to go, suddenly a possibility beyond my wildest expectations presented itself: i had the possibility to see a LOT more. We were sitting next to each other on a log a few yards away from a trail and i offered to return to the trail. She refused, saying I'd block the view of her if anyone should pass by on the same trail. So she was still concerned with onlookers, but I was trusted enough to remain. When she finally sprayed, she made no attempt to hide the action from me; we were so close her bared-to-the-butt leg was touching my own. The way she spread her shorts aside revealed her ENTIRE pubic area. The very specific idea of her very casually exposing herself to me, despite her prudish nature, drove me wild. She glanced at me mid-stream, saw where my eyes were fastened, and continued. I've known guys who couldn't even pee in a movie theatre bathroom and here's an inexperienced virgin unwittingly giving me the best sexual thrill i've had outside of physical contact. 

Also, something that isn't brought up too often is the smell. Studying her puss before the stream started, I noted she was wet...really wet, and we all know the subtle-but-wonderful scent associated. I'm guessing the weed we smoked had some aphrodisiac effect, but the combination of her girlyjuices and urine gave off a glorious aroma that made me think of primal and animalistic things. Pheremones, maybe? I dunno, but the smell of fresh female piss is enough to drive me wild. That's all i can think of for now

[whiz kid 201]

On 2/14/2018 at 8:45 PM, Ducex777 said:

Also, something that isn't brought up too often is the smell. Studying her puss before the stream started, I noted she was wet...really wet, and we all know the subtle-but-wonderful scent associated. I'm guessing the weed we smoked had some aphrodisiac effect, but the combination of her girlyjuices and urine gave off a glorious aroma that made me think of primal and animalistic things. Pheremones, maybe? I dunno, but the smell of fresh female piss is enough to drive me wild. That's all i can think of for now

Yeah, you're definitely on to something.  I'm into voyeur videos of girls peeing while it is certainly arousing for me to see a slim, attractive young woman go pee, I find it most arousing when you can see a slight hue of yellow in her pee pee.  Not like unhealthy, dehydrated, dark color, but just enough color to know that the liquid coming out her pussy really is in fact, the real-deal (and no, it's NOT apple juice either  ).  And as you said, I can imagine a cute girl and the smell of her nice, tight, fertile vagina combined with the pungeant aroma of warm, fresh yellow urine mixed with a touch of pussy fluids on the way out.   Yeah, it drives me wild too!  (Can you imagine the pheromones floating around in the girl's room at a high school or college?)

Edited February 16, 2018 by whiz kid

[Dr.P 1,473]

Yes, for me, the smell and the sound have always been part of the thrill of the whole experience of being with a woman when she pees. I have noticed that all my life, and have read that pheromones are the reasons that I like it so much. In fact, I have read theories which say that being attracted to women's pee is a result of a heightened sensitivity to the smell of the pheromones in it. The theory says that men who lack that heightened sense of smell are often indifferent to female peeing. One of my g.f.'s was initially reluctant to let me look between her legs and watch her pee come out. But she didn't mind if I buried my face in her thighs, which she kept tight together while she peed, where I got the full benefit of her smell, which I loved. Good story from Ducex777.

[whiz kid 201]

 

21 minutes ago, Dr.P said:

Yes, for me, the smell and the sound have always been part of the thrill of the whole experience of being with a woman when she pees. I have noticed that all my life, and have read that pheromones are the reasons that I like it so much. In fact, I have read theories which say that being attracted to women's pee is a result of a heightened sensitivity to the smell of the pheromones in it. The theory says that men who lack that heightened sense of smell are often indifferent to female peeing. One of my g.f.'s was initially reluctant to let me look between her legs and watch her pee come out. But she didn't mind if I buried my face in her thighs, which she kept tight together while she peed, where I got the full benefit of her smell, which I loved. Good story from Ducex777.

I certainly do have a heightened sense of smell.  Of course, ya gotta love the "pssshh" sound that some pussies make when there is a strong stream.  Maybe that's how urine became known as piss because of the sound?

[Dr.P 1,473]

I have often wondered the same thing, whether "piss" arose from the hiss which many females make, when they pee under various conditions, such as strong, urgent streams, or interactions of their streams with their lips, or structures in their urethras. The interesting thing is that this hiss is almost uniquely female, very rare among males unless their urinary passageway is obstructed, by an infection, for example. Since women are generally much more secretive about their peeing than men, it seems surprising that a bodily function would be named for a sound that is uniquely feminine, and may not have been known to a majority of men, when the language evolved. On the other hand, the term "piss" may have arisen from the intense interest of men in sounds they associated with the bodily functions of women, with which they were very familiar. It's a chicken and egg situation, I guess.

[whiz kid 201]

You're right in that only some girls make the sound and the ones that do, seem to produce strong streams in general.  I wonder if the ability to make the sound depends more on the strength of the stream or the architecture of the pussy, or maybe a combination of both.  I've also noticed that while we call at a hissing sound, it really sounds more like "ssssshh" (like someone says in the library).  Personally, I really like it when the girl makes this sound as she pees. It's even better when she isn't over-hydrated and the urine is concentrated just enough that you can smell it.  (A girl who has been sitting through school classes all afternoon and finally gets to relieve herself with a big pee at the end of the day.)

[Dr.P 1,473]

I think the ability to make sound depends on both the strength of the stream and the architecture of the pussy, both of which vary with individuals. The same individual may hiss at times, for example when her need to pee is urgent, and pee completely silently, at other times. The sharpness of the hiss, whether it sounds like "ssssshhh" or "sssss" also seems to vary with individuals, due to pussy architecture and strength of stream, and even with the same individual, at different times. In some women, the sound is more high-pitched, and almost melodious, sometimes enhanced by a porcelain toilet, with water in it. I once had a g.f., "Ellie," who made this kind of hiss consistently, and started and stopped a lot during one pee, which made my listening even more exciting and rewarding. I never was able to watch her pee actually come out, but I suspect that her sound arose from her pussy architecture, as well as a naturally strong stream, which sounded like it sprayed a lot. She seemed to need to exert significant effort to make it come out, and she needed to restart repeatedly, to empty her bladder. All part of the delightful diversity of women's peeing, in my view. I love it when they spray, as well as hiss. It can be very exciting to watch!

As for pee smells, I tend to prefer the more dilute, like if she has had several alcoholic drinks in an evening, or cups of tea or coffee, in the daytime. I like the mix of pheromones and dilute urine best. I love to watch them pee, and inhale the fragrance of it, with my face just above their thighs, or between their knees, as they sit on the toilet.

[Sophie 24,412]

I thought I'd chime in on the hissing discussion because I figured you guys might like it from a females POV.

As mentioned above, there are many many different kinds of streams, everyone is unique. Having peed next to a lot of women in the adjacent stall I can say that some hiss, and some don't, and even these hisses are all different. Some I'll hear the hissing along with splashing as it hits the water, while others I'll only hear a loud hiss. While with some women I'll hear nothing but a tinkle from them. 

As for myself, it depends on how badly I need to pee. I definitely fall into the "silent" category unless I'm bursting for a wee. I'll usually make no noise except for the delicate tinkle as my stream hits the water below, and I really like that. If I'm bursting though, I'll hiss for a little while until the pressure drops a little and then I'll go back to my normal, quiet wee. I can cause myself to hiss however, if I push and force the stream out. I get pee shy occasionally but other than that I never really have any problems fully emptying my bladder, unless , again, I'm desperate. Then I tend to start and stop to get the last drops out. 

[F.W 5,734]

That would be interesting field work..

[Brutus 2,206]

For me it started in grade school when I heard a hot teacher peeing really hard in the restroom across the hall. I was too young to feel any sexual arousal from it at the time but was shocked because I had never heard a woman pee before and because hers was so much stronger than mine, it was kind of intimidating. That memory stuck with me and as I aged into puberty, the intrigue with pee turned into a sexual thing for me, especially as I could sometimes hear girls peeing loudly while walking past the restrooms on my way to classes. In the 7th grade, I had an English teacher that every boy in school wanted to fuck. She was early 30's blonde with an incredibly curvy body and was about 5 foot 10 at least, pretty tall. I remember just staring at her ass whenever she wrote on the chalk board. It was painful how horny she made me. I heard her pissing like a fire hose one day when I was sipping water from the fountain. When she came walking out, I had a whole new attraction to her. She peed like you would think a woman that tall and thick would pee. It was like she was an animal. On my best day, her stream would've killed mine dead in a competition. Back then, there was no such thing as videos to be found online, porn was just images, and when I finally did see one of the earliest actual pee videos online around 2002-2003, it was a new world for me, being my first look at women in the act. It's just grown from there. 

So the fetish just developed from a random occurrence that I happened to hear and the seed was planted, long before I knew. And that's how all my fetishes came to be. My foot fetish for example, was triggered by seeing another female teacher step on a spider next to me in class one day in her high heels. Her feet were very nice, long toes, painted and smooth skin. Again, I didn't realize a seed had been planted but years later in my puberty, I remembered the curvature of her sexy foot stomping that spider into the floor and how she twisted her foot from side to side a few times. Sometimes, images just get into you when your too young and then turn into fetishes later in life.

As far as why I like to see peeing, as others have mentioned, it's seeing the female anatomy, the range of ways their pee can come out, the intrigue as to whether she's a straight shooter or a wild sprayer and does she have a weak flow or a torrent to release. Just the fact that it involves the genitals I think adds a sexual element to peeing. Another thing I want to mention is for me, it's also intriguing because the fact that women have to pee represents to me a crack of reality in society's portrayal of women as pure, angelic beings that do no wrong, or dirty things, even though we know it's false. This is why my preference is voyeur material. Whenever I see an attractive woman, I sometimes think that she'll have her ass hanging over a toilet taking a piss soon, and maybe she won't wipe herself, maybe get some on her legs or something.

[Dr.P 1,473]

Sophie, I want to thank you very much for contributing to the hissing discussion, from the female POV. You verify a lot of what I have heard, over many years of doing my best to listen to women peeing. It seems that hissing is almost always associated with urgency, or at least a very full bladder, under high pressure. I knew at least one woman who claimed that she didn't hiss, but I distinctly heard her hiss, when she had a very full bladder. "Ellie," the lady of whom I spoke previously, always hissed very loudly, whenever I heard her pee, and she started and stopped, several times, in one session. I found the hissing, stopping, and restarting highly erotic. She also left the bathroom door half open, so I could hear her very clearly. I wonder if she thought her sound was erotic, too? I would love to have watched her pee, with all of that hissing and spraying, but didn't dare walk in on her, for fear of being branded a pervert. What do you think?

[Alfresco 11,633]

For me, it all started when I was much younger and used to catch girls peeing outside when we were as groups away from our houses and didn't want to go back just to pee.   I was fascinated by the difference between the male and female anatomy and catching a girl peeing was the time when I got to see that.  Later on, when I was at university I caught a woman peeing on the pavement by the side of a road and the image is still etched in my mind.  Throughout university I saw other girls peeing outside and really enjoyed it.   I was fascinated by the different peeing styles and the way the flow varied from girl to girl and pee to pee.  Now, this has developed to be mainly focused on girls peeing where our culture says they shouldn't pee.  I love the idea of a girl not caring about peeing outside or even better inside a structure such as bus shelter, a phone box or a building.   

It is a very complex attraction.   Some girls are peeing out of necessity and really don't want to be peeing in these places.   They will hold on as long as they possibly can in the hope of finding a toilet.   Others don't give a shit and pee in public because they need to pee.  Yet others deliberately make a point of peeing in a "naughty" location.  That is particularly hot.  Sometimes girls pee in naughty places not because they want to be naughty, but because they are desperate to pee and it gives them more cover than peeing outside in the gutter or on the grass.   They would make less mess and less damage if they peed on the grass, but they are exposing themselves.  However, if they go and pee in a phone box, bus shelter or car park stairwell, they preserve their privacy and so the pee being deposited in that location is of minor consequence to them.   Still other girls wouldn't dream of peeing in view, but would sooner wet themselves.  If that is because they enjoy it then great, but for those who wet themselves and don't enjoy it, but are embarrassed by it, I find it difficult to see why they would wet themselves rather than exposing themselves.   I get that they really don't want to be exposed and will fight the possibility until it is too late, but surely it is better to bare your butt and pee outside, even if people see you - it will be over in 30 seconds and you move on whereas peeing in your clothes means that you are wet for the rest of the evening and many more people know what you have done.

The psychology behind different attitudes to peeing is fascinating and I just love it.  If I could do a university psychology study on it then I would love to!

As to what turns me on the most - it is definitely about peeing in naughty or unacceptable places.   I can watch a grainy CCTV video that shows a girl squatting in an elevator or alleyway with a puddle growing beneath her but no visible genitals or pee stream and that can turn me on more than a clearly posed explicit video of pee emerging from a woman into a toilet or even a bath.  There is definitely something about voyeuristic videos or even better, actual sightings where the girls tried to get a bit of a quiet spot to pee and didn't realise they were being watched.

[Dr.P 1,473]

Alfresco,

I envy your early experiences, seeing girls peeing outdoors. I didn't have many opportunities for that. I did have one experience that is etched in my mind forever. Sometime in early elementary school, I managed to look up a girl's skirt, immediately after she had peed in the girls' room, and saw several little pee dribbles, on her inner thighs. I immediately started fantasizing about how her pee came out, and how her legs got wet. Then I began wondering if other girls' legs got wet when they peed, how they did it, etc. So I was totally hooked, at that point.

"The psychology behind different attitudes to peeing is fascinating and I just love it.  If I could do a university psychology study on it then I would love to!"

I totally agree! The desire for, and expectation of privacy for peeing seems to vary widely among women, from those who "don't give a shit," and will pee anywhere, to those who will wet their outer clothing, to avoid exposing their lady parts, even momentarily. I agree that the attitudes are very complex. They are probably interwoven with feelings about privacy, pee shyness in some, confidence in themselves, and even exhibitionistic tendencies, in others.

The ones who fascinate me the most are those who carefully get their outer clothing out of the way, and then pee through their panties or pantyhose, soaking parts of themselves, in the process, when they could simply move their undergarments out of the way, and remain drier. For them, peeing through their panties must be some sort of compromise. It does have the advantage of keeping their outer clothing a lot drier than totally wetting themselves, and of course it prevents actual exposure of their lady parts to view. On the other hand, peeing through panties or tights exposes a lot of intimate details of their peeing processes, such as where their pee comes out, and the size, force, and direction of their streams. Being deflected, or made to spray by the cloth, it may also get their legs wet, which I find extremely hot, seeing the dribbles on their thighs.

"Yet others deliberately make a point of peeing in a "naughty" location.  That is particularly hot.  Sometimes girls pee in naughty places not because they want to be naughty, but because they are desperate to pee and it gives them more cover than peeing outside in the gutter or on the grass.   They would make less mess and less damage if they peed on the grass, but they are exposing themselves.  However, if they go and pee in a phone box, bus shelter or car park stairwell, they preserve their privacy and so the pee being deposited in that location is of minor consequence to them."

This is a very interesting group, in terms of attitudes toward peeing. They may understand the potentially erotic nature of peeing, rather than thinking of it as utilitarian, dirty, or disgusting, as some do. So some of them may be motivated by exhibitionism, in some form. Or they may desire cover, at all costs, as you say. Another possibility is that they just want to be naughty, and pee where they are not supposed to. These may be the same ladies who deliberately spray the toilet seats, floors, and even walls of public restrooms. Are they acting out some anger, or expressing some form of rebellion? Hard to tell.

 

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With me,ive decided its firstly about seeing the female genitals,the pee is a nice bonus though,as it fires out through the lips etc.