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Delete my post because you did not agree is wrong. Site try to hoodwink peefan member by asking pay for free show. I respond to site own and not her anyway.

There was no deliberate attempt to hoodwink anybody. Most of the session was free. You could chat to her without paying a penny. Only the bits where she actually peed charged a nominal $5 as a means of preventing kids from accessing.

And you are being so fucking cheap that you are complaining about that!

If you have issues with this site, take it up privately with Admin.

I mean there are always some aren't there? This site links up with something new and great and there are always one or two who want to just moan about it.

Most of us don't want to hear it!

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NOTICE!!!

Further negative postings risk being deleted here. It is not the purpose of this thread. If you wsh to criticise Admin, the mods, the site, or anything else like that, a seperate thread in the Feedback subforum is the place to do it , not here.

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I posted this in the other thread, but I think it's still relevant to repost it in this thread for continuity's sake...

If I may interject here...

I don't think that censoring members opinions here is the proper way to go about this. I would like to address some of these concerns if I can.

First thing's first, I didn't write the original post advertising the show. I'm sorry if you felt that it was misleading. However, may I ask what made you think that this would be a free show? I'd like you to think about that before you answer it, because quoting that post isn't going to cut it. Look at the post as a whole. Read with context. Do you think that cam models do this for their health or that literally thousands of women are exhibitionists and want nothing more than to invite you into their bedrooms and get naked for you? I think that's a very naive point of view if that's what you truly think. There are many cam sites that even put "free" in their names. Out of respect for those other companies, I won't name them, but you can easily look them up if you don't know them. That doesn't mean that you get a free show. Even the ones that allow public shows, are getting paid somehow. It costs a lot of money to run sites like those. The bills have to get paid somehow.

Fetish content always comes at a premium. This show wasn't a standard porn video. It's not a prerecorded video that you download and share. This is a live model catering to your very specific fetish, in real time. Have you EVER seen a site that offers that? She can, and should, be compensated for her time. Don't allow yourself to be spoiled by tube sites that steal content from hard working producers and distribute it without their permission. As I said earlier, this is her JOB. This is what she does for a living. Most of that content that you freely distribute among yourselves, are paid models. To be honest with you, charging $5 was extremely inexpensive because she didn't get a lot of response from you guys when she was charging what shows normally cost on cam sites. Is having a person cater to your fetish in real time not even worth that to you? If helping to fund your own community not important to you? If people don't pay for quality content, then professional producers and models won't make it any more and the vast majority of new, professionally made content will cease to exist.

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I’d like to thank Kimberley-X and MyFetishLive for the great show last night! To those of you who are complaining about things not being 100% free you have to understand that it takes a lot of time, money, and infrastructure to bring this type of content to you. I can assure you that no one is getting rich off this. My intention was not to mislead you about things being 100% free, but to make it clear that you don’t need to pay to access the site or to see the performer. Perhaps I could have been a bit clearer, but this is how just about every other cam site in the world works, there are “Free Chat” areas and then there are “Private Shows” where you typically get to see more. Not to mention that you’re not going to find these types of shows on any other cam site, this is a truly unique opportunity for a very reasonable price. On other cam sites I’ve seen people spend thousands of dollars in one night to see much less. In any case, I appreciate you all taking the time to check out the show and I hope that you’ll continue to take part in this unique opportunity. I take full responsibility for what I said in the announcement, and if you’d like to address your concerns with me feel free to send me a PM.

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To be honest with you, charging $5 was extremely inexpensive because she didn't get a lot of response from you guys when she was charging what shows normally cost on cam sites. Is having a person cater to your fetish in real time not even worth that to you? If helping to fund your own community not important to you? If people don't pay for quality content, then professional producers and models won't make it any more and the vast majority of new, professionally made content will cease to exist.

For my part, I never looked at camming sessions before. This session with Kimberley X was the first time I'd ever accessed something like that. It definitely will not be the last. Due to certain constraints and timezone differences I could only make it for an hour, but I like to think I did my bit with the $35 in total I contributed. And I got an awesome real time standing piss on the carpet! So that was money very well spent. :biggrin:

On the very few occasions I'd gone looking for pee material on cam before I'd never found anyone offering it. So I never bothered until you guys showed up. Might well be the same with many of us here.

Whilst I'll look at good free stuff that's out there just like any other guy, I do believe in paying for stuff as well. Nothing will be produced if no money was being made. I hope to get in touch with Kimberley....may I call her Kimmie?....on my next day off to discuss the possibility of custom made stuff.

You guys have brought something awesomely good to the forum, and I'd recommend it to anyone out there who for whatever reason have not yet taken the plunge. I guess also that when such a good development came our way, all the negativity and cheapness from the naysayers seriously irritated me to the point where perhaps I responded to them in a more snappy way than I should have.

Anyway....I know what I contributed. But I am only one person. How much response did you get from the rest of our forum? Was it worthwhile? I seriously hope so.

Kimmie is totally awesome, but if there are other babes doing this on cam too....can't wait to see them and the more the merrier.

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For my part, I never looked at camming sessions before. This session with Kimberley X was the first time I'd ever accessed something like that. It definitely will not be the last. Due to certain constraints and timezone differences I could only make it for an hour, but I like to think I did my bit with the $35 in total I contributed. And I got an awesome real time standing piss on the carpet! So that was money very well spent. :biggrin:

On the very few occasions I'd gone looking for pee material on cam before I'd never found anyone offering it. So I never bothered until you guys showed up. Might well be the same with many of us here.

Whilst I'll look at good free stuff that's out there just like any other guy, I do believe in paying for stuff as well. Nothing will be produced if no money was being made. I hope to get in touch with Kimberley....may I call her Kimmie?....on my next day off to discuss the possibility of custom made stuff.

You guys have brought something awesomely good to the forum, and I'd recommend it to anyone out there who for whatever reason have not yet taken the plunge. I guess also that when such a good development came our way, all the negativity and cheapness from the naysayers seriously irritated me to the point where perhaps I responded to them in a more snappy way than I should have.

Anyway....I know what I contributed. But I am only one person. How much response did you get from the rest of our forum? Was it worthwhile? I seriously hope so.

Kimmie is totally awesome, but if there are other babes doing this on cam too....can't wait to see them and the more the merrier.

We have a number of models who do pee shows and work at various times of day. Off the top of my head, I can name at least 6. Not all of them cam very regularly, but a few do. Fetish cam sites, especially new ones, don't get a ton of traffic, and a lot of the models do other things to make a living, whether it being having a day job or shooting video content, etc. What you contributed was greatly appreciated by Kimmie, myself on behalf of MFL, and the admin of this site, I'm sure.

Very few sites allow pee content. This isn't because the site owners have a particular problem with it, it's usually because of the credit card companies- Visa and especially Mastercard. Anything considered to be "obscene" can lead to a non-negotiable $30,000 fine from the credit card companies, per instance. The problem is that what is deemed to be "obscene" is arbitrary and there is no list of what is "not acceptable," so most cam sites take a really wide berth around anything edgy. We specialize on walking that edge and we keep anything that may be obscene behind the "pay wall" as it's called, to protect the "delicate sensibilities" of passers by. We are also working on an even more exclusive VIP type cam site that won't be restricted by credit card processing arbitrary rules at all, that will be less restrictive still for more even more extreme shows.

As far as calling her Kimmie... that's between you and her. I call her Kimmie as she's not only my employee, but someone whom I call a dear friend.

I understand how you felt regarding the negative response that some had. It angered me as well. After all, I'm responsible for making sure these girls get paid, and I pitched this idea to Kimmie and made some pretty big promises to her about it, because while the response we had was good, I kind of expected a bit better of a response. But nonetheless, I'm still calling the show a win, and will be working on scheduling the next featured show soon.

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Well hopefully these things will grow.

With those of us who showed up and spreading the word perhaps interest will increase.

I don't doubt that. Like you said, a live cam show was something that you're not used to looking for. It's a new concept to have plopped in front of your face, because of how rare it is to find a place that not only embraces it, but promotes it. It takes a bit of time for some people to wrap their heads around it. I'm sure once it catches on, a lot more people will want to watch it

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My ladies watched some of this, we didn't get in there until 2am, Kimberley's time, and she was winding up for the night. As soon as I started following the conversation, joining in and interacting with her, I didn't mind paying at all, didn't need to think about it. She was like a ray of sunshine on a dull day, lol.

Thank you, MFL, for teaming up with this site, and thank you Admin for making it happen. It adds something special to our interests.

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You may absolutely call me Kimmie :)

And I am very happy to of made so many people's night!

I was unable to get much planned out in the ways of how I wanted the show to go as I was having internet troubles up until just the very day before so was a bit preoccupied making sure everything would go smoothly with my camera and internet speed.

However I do have plans in the works for another Watersports event with more interactive activities for tippers along with prizes including panties, pre recorded and custom videos and photo's.

I had a lot of fun last night and it was absolutely worth while!

Next event I will begin earlier and go till late, Make a whole day and night of it it will be fabulous!

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MFL, if you are still on here, is Kimberly ok? ....... last log in was 2nd of this month.

She's still around, apparently she's been busy with some other projects. We are working on setting up another featured show (not free show).

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Hey Guys and Gals!

I want to first apologize for my recent absence

I have been battling a particularly nasty infection after a recent tooth breakage and removal :p

it seem's after practically living on antibiotics as a child for chronic ear infections, it seems my body has created a bit of an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria (how lovely)

So far I am doing alright, I have simply been hung up on getting this knocked out and taken care of.

So far, heading into round 4 of antibiotics, fingers crossed that "4th time's the charm"

HOWEVER, in better news, A Lovely new camera is heading my way and once I get some practice, you shall all reap the benefits of a better quality camera!

WHOO HOOO!!!

XOXOXO

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Hey Guys and Gals!

I want to first apologize for my recent absence

I have been battling a particularly nasty infection after a recent tooth breakage and removal :tongue:

it seem's after practically living on antibiotics as a child for chronic ear infections, it seems my body has created a bit of an antibiotic resistant strain of bacteria (how lovely)

So far I am doing alright, I have simply been hung up on getting this knocked out and taken care of.

So far, heading into round 4 of antibiotics, fingers crossed that "4th time's the charm"

HOWEVER, in better news, A Lovely new camera is heading my way and once I get some practice, you shall all reap the benefits of a better quality camera!

WHOO HOOO!!!

XOXOXO

Woohoo, welcome back. Sorry you've not been well, I was only asking around a day or two ok if anyone had seen you. Get better soon.

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