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"The viewer/consumer is led to believe that the thread is seamless. Sometimes, in mainstream televised and filmed action we are often treated to the cutting room floor outtakes. ... You would think that the players in these scenarios would sometimes ask for a towel, or be saying things like; "Please...not in my eyes"

 

Yes, we're constantly and willingly conned by cinema. 

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"Other producers, Milton’s Private magazine, for instance produced magazines of a similar quality, but focused on vanilla sex in exotic locations"

I agree. In fact, Milton's Private and Pirate magazines plus Sex Bizarre were pretty much the only titles I bought when I was off on a wanking holiday. 

"At the beginning of Sex Bizarre there was a ‘Wanted’ ad, asking for models, so clearly there was some kind of recruiting drive going on. We do not know how many women sent their photos in the hope of ‘starring’ in their magazines, particularly one specialising in pissing."

Sometime in the 1990s I came to the conclusion that the majority of young women in Scandinavia and Germany had done at least a little porn. I'm now pretty sure I was wrong, but given the amount of porn around, in photos and on video, it certainly looked that way. However, I think piss porn, being so specialized and 'dirty', was probably much less attractive to the majority of prospective models. It would be nice, though, to know how many women applied to Sex Bizarre. I wonder if there's a list of previous applicants somewhere in their offices. 

More generally, I often think of the women who are now middle-aged or older who did porn modelling in their youth. If somebody set up a website for older women to post their youthful porn pics I'd join like a shot. (Perhaps somebody has?) I realize that modelling is just work and probably isn't much fun for quite a lot of models, but some must have got off on the experience. It would be great to hear from them and see some 'then and now' pictures. 

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"Danish Showers': I may not have bought the magazine but  I certainly watched the film made to go along with this photoset. Of the three women featured, the woman in the blue dress - on the left in the opening title picture - was my favorite. She still is. She looks so absolutely wholesome and 'respectable',  but she calmly - and delightedly - plays dirty games with piss. In the film, I remember her having a gentle touch as she grasps a penis. That sort of female kinkiness is what really turns me on. 

(I also love the pictures where she's watching the others from the bar and is touching her cunt through her knickers. Her smiling face glows with excitement.

As I've said before, female voyeurism and masturbation excite me a lot.)

Incidentally, the last picture I've chosen seems to show the blue dress woman performing anilingus, which - as far as I remember - was fairly unusual at the time.

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I won't go into the third section, Pervert's Pleasure , but I note that both women have the excitingly blank expressions of a dominatrix.  I suppose that's closely related to the equally exciting trope of the femme fatale, since female sexual depravity applies in both cases.

 

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3 hours ago, wjimmy said:

@greedyneedygirl

"Other producers, Milton’s Private magazine, for instance produced magazines of a similar quality, but focused on vanilla sex in exotic locations"

I agree. In fact, Milton's Private and Pirate magazines plus Sex Bizarre were pretty much the only titles I bought when I was off on a wanking holiday. 

"At the beginning of Sex Bizarre there was a ‘Wanted’ ad, asking for models, so clearly there was some kind of recruiting drive going on. We do not know how many women sent their photos in the hope of ‘starring’ in their magazines, particularly one specialising in pissing."

Sometime in the 1990s I came to the conclusion that the majority of young women in Scandinavia and Germany had done at least a little porn. I'm now pretty sure I was wrong, but given the amount of porn around, in photos and on video, it certainly looked that way. However, I think piss porn, being so specialized and 'dirty', was probably much less attractive to the majority of prospective models. It would be nice, though, to know how many women applied to Sex Bizarre. I wonder if there's a list of previous applicants somewhere in their offices. 

More generally, I often think of the women who are now middle-aged or older who did porn modelling in their youth. If somebody set up a website for older women to post their youthful porn pics I'd join like a shot. (Perhaps somebody has?) I realize that modelling is just work and probably isn't much fun for quite a lot of models, but some must have got off on the experience. It would be great to hear from them and see some 'then and now' pictures. 

I absolutely agree with what you have said about then and now...of course morbidly thinking, how many of them are alive? The notion that they retired or simply gave up after earning enough money, did they marry, have children, have 'respectable' careers. The only 'model' that you can actively trace career wise, is someone like Catherine Ringer, (Sex Bizarre 29). Their (The CC Corps) roster of models must have included those from across the globe and (maybe) some UK models...it's hard to guage. We're talking 40-50 odd years ago now, so it's highly likely that some of them are not around. The other thought I have when viewing the magazines is of course the lack of contraception, NO condoms! I presume that there would have been some way of testing and ensuring utmost cleanliness on set! 

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"Danish Showers': I may not have bought the magazine but  I certainly watched the film made to go along with this photoset. Of the three women featured, the woman in the blue dress - on the left in the opening title picture - was my favorite. She still is. She looks so absolutely wholesome and 'respectable',  but she calmly - and delightedly - plays dirty games with piss. In the film, I remember her having a gentle touch as she grasps a penis. That sort of female kinkiness is what really turns me on. 

(I also love the pictures where she's watching the others from the bar and is touching her cunt through her knickers. Her smiling face glows with excitement.

As I've said before, female voyeurism and masturbation excite me a lot.)

Incidentally, the last picture I've chosen seems to show the blue dress woman performing anilingus, which - as far as I remember - was fairly unusual at the time.

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I won't go into the third section, Pervert's Pleasure , but I note that both women have the excitingly blank expressions of a dominatrix.  I suppose that's closely related to the equally exciting trope of the femme fatale, since female sexual depravity applies in both cases.

 

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Yes,the woman in the blue dress is like an amiable 'Aunt!'

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12 hours ago, greedyneedygirl said:

The only 'model' that you can actively trace career wise, is someone like Catherine Ringer, (Sex Bizarre 29).

Sometimes a little information can come your way informally.

A few years ago, I had a brief forum chat about the lovely Fanny Steele with a staff member of SG Video.  I think she did appear in one of the later Sex Bizarre magazines,  but is more famous for her peeing videos.

He told me that she had married and retired from the business,  and that she was living in Germany with her husband and two children.   I imagine that many porn idols move on to a more "average" life after their erotic career.

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On 2/18/2023 at 1:19 AM, likesToLick said:

Sometimes a little information can come your way informally.

A few years ago, I had a brief forum chat about the lovely Fanny Steele with a staff member of SG Video.  I think she did appear in one of the later Sex Bizarre magazines,  but is more famous for her peeing videos.

He told me that she had married and retired from the business,  and that she was living in Germany with her husband and two children.   I imagine that many porn idols move on to a more "average" life after their erotic career.

Here she is:

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Ah, yes...a familiar face! Thank you for the interest and information. ❤️ I've yet to find the issue in question, as I'm currently working on those published in the 1980's.

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3 hours ago, greedyneedygirl said:

Ah, yes...a familiar face! Thank you for the interest and information. ❤️ I've yet to find the issue in question, as I'm currently working on those published in the 1980's.

I had a look through some of the more recent issues and could not find her,  so perhaps I am mistaken.

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On 2/18/2023 at 1:19 AM, likesToLick said:

Sometimes a little information can come your way informally.

A few years ago, I had a brief forum chat about the lovely Fanny Steele with a staff member of SG Video.  I think she did appear in one of the later Sex Bizarre magazines,  but is more famous for her peeing videos.

He told me that she had married and retired from the business,  and that she was living in Germany with her husband and two children.   I imagine that many porn idols move on to a more "average" life after their erotic career.

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Thanks for mentioning Fanny Steele. I hadn't come across her before. She's very sexy. I've just watched her being deliciously filthy in a maize field with a Mars bar and a cob of corn. She had a superb face for porn.

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Sex Bizarre Thirty Five

 

Sex Bizarre was still being published as a quarterly magazine along with the other trail blazing titles like, Color Climax, Anal Sex and New Cunts. It was clear that the fetish of ‘water sports’ was a sustainable and viable subject for a pornographic magazine of quality. We’re so used to subscribing to media now, I do wonder whether fans of the magazine had the ability to ‘subscribe’. HM Customs were still doing checks at Border Control, so those living in countries like the UK took a risk in buying the magazine from countries like Germany, Holland and of course, Denmark, the country of production. One of my contacts told me that he attempted to buy Sex Bizarre from a small ad in a Mens Magazine, he received a warning letter from HM Customs and his ‘goods’ were confiscated. Others say that if they purchased the magazine in Sex Shops in Amsterdam, it was like smuggling drugs, such was the risk of being searched and found out at Border Control. One guy told me that he purchased several copies of Sex Bizarre whilst on a student trip to Paris and was really nervous on returning to the UK, having hidden them with other documents in his hand luggage.

 

Sex Bizarre has a curious story called ‘Urine Surprise’, it features a couple engaged in pissing fun on a farm, with the female model dressed in retro-milk maid wear, with the guy clad in fishing gear.  I do wonder whether the couple have applied to ‘star’ in the magazine, (they make one more appearance in a later issue). They are certainly not familiar models and this is their debut. Couples did send in photographs in response to the advert in Sex Bizarre, they are certainly very sexy and attractive. She urinates in a chamber pot, and he drenches her see-thru blouse with yellow piss, they certainly give the impression that they enjoy the act of peeing over one another as well as having more conventional vanilla sex.

 

I have visited Amsterdam on several occasions, and am familiar with the city and its more salubrious districts. A friend said that Copenhagen is very similar, in terms of the scale and architecture. In the second story ‘Thirsty Lady’ the opening photograph of the harbour district of Nordhavn, I can see what my friend means. The scenario returns to more familiar territory and a female model who has posed in a previous issue. She is the cleaner in a harbour side bar, and her boss has a delivery from two dray men who seduce the cleaner and perform sex acts that include urinating. The bar owner is basically a voyeur who wishes to view his submissive employee humiliated sexually before his gaze.

 

 

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12 hours ago, greedyneedygirl said:

I do wonder whether fans of the magazine had the ability to ‘subscribe’.

In Australia the magazine could be bought openly in adult book shops,  but only a limited number of issues ever appeared.  I didn't get to see the full range until they started appearing on the internet.

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On 3/4/2023 at 11:00 AM, likesToLick said:

In Australia the magazine could be bought openly in adult book shops,  but only a limited number of issues ever appeared.  I didn't get to see the full range until they started appearing on the internet.

It would be interesting to guage the global reach of the magazine, how they were distributed and sold, it would also be a measure of how widespread the fetish is. In UK cities adult shops were granted a license from the local authorities on the understanding that they sold 'soft-core' publications and products. Hard core pornography was to be found 'under-the-counter', the owners took a risk in selling it and the shops were often raided. Supplies were provided again, and the whole procedure was repeated until the authorities gave in, and the magazines began to be openly displayed on the shelves. As I mentioned in my review, consumers took a risk in buying via mail order, often using accommodation addresses as they didn't want the magazine delivered directly to the home.

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1 hour ago, greedyneedygirl said:

It would be interesting to guage the global reach of the magazine, how they were distributed and sold, it would also be a measure of how widespread the fetish is.

I suspect the fetish is much more widespread than people imagine.  I have had two girlfriends who found it excited them after I introduced them to it.  I met a local escort who loved it so much she would do watersports at no extra charge and suggested it to every client.  I have met other guys who are into it just in the course of my normal life.  I have seen people advertising for WS partners in contact ads.  I would not be surprised if as much as ten percent of the population are open to it in some way.

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On 3/6/2023 at 7:48 AM, greedyneedygirl said:

.... In UK cities adult shops were granted a license from the local authorities on the understanding that they sold 'soft-core' publications and products. Hard core pornography was to be found 'under-the-counter', the owners took a risk in selling it and the shops were often raided. Supplies were provided again, and the whole procedure was repeated until the authorities gave in, and the magazines began to be openly displayed on the shelves. As I mentioned in my review, consumers took a risk in buying via mail order, often using accommodation addresses as they didn't want the magazine delivered directly to the home.

A friend I worked with in the 1990s told me about somebody he knew in the UK who'd been prosecuted for being in possession of piss porn. I suspect a magazine addressed to him had been identified in the post. Of course that's only anecdotal, but it's significant that UK law on pornography of all types still remains annoyingly vague. 

Here's an excerpt from the Crown Prosecution Service webitse - https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/extreme-pornography

The Law

An extreme pornographic image is an image which meets four criteria. It is:

Pornographic ("of such a nature that it must reasonably be assumed to have been produced solely or principally for the purpose of sexual arousal"), and

Grossly offensive, disgusting or otherwise of an obscene character, and

Portrays in an explicit and realistic way any of the following:

An act which threatens a person's life, or

An act which results, or is likely to result, in serious injury to a person's anus, breasts or genitals, or

An act which involves sexual interference with a human corpse (necrophilia), or

A person performing an act of intercourse or oral sex with an animal (whether dead or alive) (bestiality), or

An act which involves the non-consensual penetration of a person's vagina, anus or mouth by another with the other person's penis or part of the other person’s body or anything else (rape or assault by penetration)

and

A reasonable person looking at the image would think that the persons or animals were real.

Expert evidence is not likely to be admissible to demonstrate whether an image is pornographic or not. This is a matter for the magistrates’ court or jury assessing the image. The intention of the defendant or their sexual arousal is not relevant either.

"Grossly offensive" are ordinary English words: Connolly v DPP [2007] 1 ALL ER 1012. "Obscene" has an ordinary meaning ("repulsive", "filthy", "loathsome" or "lewd"), distinct from that provided for by the statutory terms of the Obscene Publications Act 1959: Anderson [1972] 1 QB 304.

The portrayal must be explicit and realistic, and thus artistic representations, even if deemed pornographic and obscene, are unlikely to be caught.

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That seems to rule out piss porn as a current target for prosecution but the terminology is typically vague. E.g.  "A reasonable person looking at the image ..." (What constitutes 'a reasonable person'? etc.) Still, the legislation seems to be aimed at bestiality and violence rather than piss play. 

I'm reminded of the Anti-Sex league in Orwell's 1984, whose members work at producing supposedly clandestine pornographic material to keep its users in constant fear of arrest, thus deflecting their attention from the true nature of the Big Brother society. 

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^^^   I have to say I was a bit worried the first time I read through that.

But thank goodness for the 'and' at the end of the first and particularly the second clauses.   A significant part of my job is interpreting requirements, and they are always fraught with the risk of misunderstanding:    The first line is clear enough 'produced solely for the purpose of...'  but the second line less so...   Does it mean grossly offensive, or just disgusting.   My wife for example would consider any show of genitals as disgusting especially if they were peeing.  So thank goodness for the 'and' statement which then leads onto the rest of the things which of course we don't (here) subscribe to.

 

Anyway - sorry to sidetrack.

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Sex Bizarre Thirty Five

 

Sex Bizarre was still being published as a quarterly magazine along with the other trail blazing titles like, Color Climax, Anal Sex and New Cunts. It was clear that the fetish of ‘water sports’ was a sustainable and viable subject for a pornographic magazine of quality. We’re so used to subscribing to media now, I do wonder whether fans of the magazine had the ability to ‘subscribe’. HM Customs were still doing checks at Border Control, so those living in countries like the UK took a risk in buying the magazine from countries like Germany, Holland and of course, Denmark, the country of production. One of my contacts told me that he attempted to buy Sex Bizarre from a small ad in a Mens Magazine, he received a warning letter from HM Customs and his ‘goods’ were confiscated. Others say that if they purchased the magazine in Sex Shops in Amsterdam, it was like smuggling drugs, such was the risk of being searched and found out at Border Control. One guy told me that he purchased several copies of Sex Bizarre whilst on a student trip to Paris and was really nervous on returning to the UK, having hidden them with other documents in his hand luggage.

 

Sex Bizarre has a curious story called ‘Urine Surprise’, it features a couple engaged in pissing fun on a farm, with the female model dressed in retro-milk maid wear, with the guy clad in fishing gear.  I do wonder whether the couple have applied to ‘star’ in the magazine, (they make one more appearance in a later issue). They are certainly not familiar models and this is their debut. Couples did send in photographs in response to the advert in Sex Bizarre, they are certainly very sexy and attractive. She urinates in a chamber pot, and he drenches her see-thru blouse with yellow piss, they certainly give the impression that they enjoy the act of peeing over one another as well as having more conventional vanilla sex.

 

I have visited Amsterdam on several occasions, and am familiar with the city and its more salubrious districts. A friend said that Copenhagen is very similar, in terms of the scale and architecture. In the second story ‘Thirsty Lady’ the opening photograph of the harbour district of Nordhavn, I can see what my friend means. The scenario returns to more familiar territory and a female model who has posed in a previous issue. She is the cleaner in a harbour side bar, and her boss has a delivery from two dray men who seduce the cleaner and perform sex acts that include urinating. The bar owner is basically a voyeur who wishes to view his submissive employee humiliated sexually before his gaze.

 

 

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"Sex Bizarre has a curious story called ‘Urine Surprise’, it features a couple engaged in pissing fun on a farm, with the female model dressed in retro-milk maid wear, with the guy clad in fishing gear.  I do wonder whether the couple have applied to ‘star’ in the magazine, ..."

That cover picture on Sex Bizarre 35 is familiar to me from the Amsterdam sex shops but this issue never appealed to me enough to make me open it. I think the woman's bonnet is what puts me off, though I notice that she swaps it for a red headscarf later in the set. Yes, it would be nice to think that this couple were genuine enthusiasts, who really got off on playing out their own - to me - rather strange take on the fetish. But we'll never know, of course.

That said, the woman's face and cunt are growing on me as I go through the pictures. Both features are attractive, as is her dirty pissing on her male partner's cock. 

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Sex Bizarre 35 continued - Thirsty Lady

Nyhavn, pictured in the opening image, has gone through several changes since I first visited, in - I think - the early 1990s. I first remember it as an area of 'low' bars, in several of which oriental women - many of them by no means young - danced to jukebox music with men I took to be sailors. I assumed the women got paid for the dances and that they were prostitutes, though, to be honest, I never saw direct evidence of either. A few years later, when I revisited, the bars had become quieter and seedier but had lost the women. Probably as a result, they had very little custom. And then - in the early 2000s perhaps? - they all changed again and the whole area went upmarket, serving smørrebrød - i.e. open sandwiches -  and beer outside alongside the canal. (I love the fact that 'smørre' means butter - something you smear on bread.) There was very little sex there then, though I did notice one fairly discreet strip club. The area was very popular. It was a good a place to have lunch and a beer.

The pictures in this set don't do much for me: three men do various things to a youngish woman, who seems uncomfortable in at least a couple of the pictures. I prefer the opening picture of Nyhavn.

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Sex Bizarre 35 continued - Thirsty Lady

Nyhavn, pictured in the opening image, has gone through several changes since I first visited, in - I think - the early 1990s. I first remember it as an area of 'low' bars, in several of which oriental women - many of them by no means young - danced to jukebox music with men I took to be sailors. I assumed the women got paid for the dances and that they were prostitutes, though, to be honest, I never saw direct evidence of either. A few years later, when I revisited, the bars had become quieter and seedier but had lost the women. Probably as a result, they had very little custom. And then - in the early 2000s perhaps? - they all changed again and the whole area went upmarket, serving smørrebrød - i.e. open sandwiches -  and beer outside alongside the canal. (I love the fact that 'smørre' means butter - something you smear on bread.) There was very little sex there then, though I did notice one fairly discreet strip club. The area was very popular. It was a good a place to have lunch and a beer.

The pictures in this set don't do much for me: three men do various things to a youngish woman, who seems uncomfortable in at least a couple of the pictures. I prefer the opening picture of Nyhavn.

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In restrospect the woman in 'Thirsty Lady' does look uncomfortable, not least having to taste urine. It is her second appearance in Sex Bizarre, her 'debut' is in Issue 31, where, again she looks reticent when the gardener pees on her. I'm guessing that she initially consented to the acts depicted in both stories, but may have been lulled into a false sense of security. In the magazines and films, I have observed the facial expressions on men and women when being pissed on and over, it's a good way of assessing the taste and smell of the experience, we are only engaged by sight.

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Sex Bizarre Thirty Six

 

Released in 1984, the first story is a return to the taboo that we shall not discuss here. Although, I would like to draw attention to the fact that materials like rubber, leather, PVC and Nylon are often associated with urolagnia. Also, it is a solo display from a regular Color Climax model, often seen clad in the aforementioned attire. I have never visited Copenhagen, but was recently on a short break in Amsterdam with a group of students. A member of staff said that the layout of the city and the architecture is not dissimilar. Ironic that such beautiful cities have a darker side with the production and distribution of hard-core pornography at the heart of both cities. Only a month ago I walked past sex shops that could well have been selling vintage issues of Sex Bizarre magazines. It is always nice to get a glimpse of Copenhagen in the Sex Bizarre stories and ‘Pen Pal Pee’ is initially set in a park on a summers day. Three young women and a male friend are sunbathing and drinking in the park, a scene played out across the globe as the seasons change and clothing is shed. The three young women take off their tops and expose their breasts to the heat of the midday sun, there are people in the background, totally unaware that Color Climax photographers are creating the initial scenes for the story that develops back in the studios.

 

In the apartment we are given the impression that the combination of the sun and the wine have loosened all inhibitions. They fondle and caress, removing one item of clothing after another, it’s the first time that I have seen one of the females with tattoos, albeit very subtle by todays standards. Those readers who are into hirsute women will not be disappointed. The girl with the tattoos breaks the ice in terms of peeing, straddling the young male and peeing directly into his mouth. The camera captures the expression on his face as he is forced into tasting her bitter urine. For some reason, unexplained the peeing girl bids farewell to the group whilst the other two immerse themselves in a pee orgy. There’s an excellent series of shots of the women taking piss directly into their mouths, both of them very attractive. Once again the model contact, ‘Jytte Jacobsen’ has found beautiful females and handsome guys to pose for these extreme stories. The magazine is still advertising for models on the first page, so it is still unsure how the recruitment took place, we can only speculate.

 

In the third story, ‘Bathroom Fun’, we see the return of ‘Sybille’, who made her debut in Sex Bizarre 34. Again a woman with considerable sexual allure with beautiful natural breasts. There’s an opening scene of a guy who has the hairstyle of a 1980’s footballer, complete with Mullet! Sybille intrudes on his ablutions, wearing the type of seductive lingerie that you could by in shops like Ann Summers. She straddles the toilet seat and inserts a shampoo bottle into her vagina, he opens his bathrobe to reveal a big rigid penis, they suck and fuck on the loo seat, before Sybille takes a pee through her crotchless fish-net tights. He masturbates over her face, before peeing into her mouth in the conclusion of the story. For me Sybille’s two appearances in the magazine is one of the highlights of the 1980’s issues. 

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I don't remember seeing Sex Bizarre 36 but I clearly missed something. I love that cover picture, with the woman opening her mouth so willingly to receive the piss stream. 

Pen Pal Pee

As with all my favourite Sex Bizarre sets, the girls here are very pretty and seem to be having fun. There's the sense of innocence I associate with a lot of examples of early porn, from the liberated later 1960s onwards. The topless sunbathing pictures in the park encapsulate that spirit. I especially like the pictures from a little later, where the short-haired woman is touching the tattooed woman's cunt through her knickers while the other man is fondling the third woman. For me, the woman who's having her knickers touched has an excitingly intelligent face. Her gaze in the lower picture,  where the man has pulled his partner's knickers down to expose her hairy mons, is very exciting for me. As is the exposed hairy mons itself, of course. The subsequent pissing and spunking on the happy girls' faces and mouths is glorious. Even though they were presumably being paid to perform, I think/hope this group genuinely enjoyed the experience. 

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