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8 hours ago, Alfresco said:

Her - "What?  Really?  If you need a wee, then you need a wee - that's what bushes are for!"

Great conversation Alfresco, well done for seizing the opportunity that presented itself, but by all accounts for you she sadly doesn't see this as an interesting, exciting or naughty activity as you and I do..

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This is great!

Personally, for me,  I have realized that I often cannot handle discussions like that one because I get blinded by my excitement and am unable to see when I may be crossing a line. So unless the connection is so distant that it won't impact my inner circle I just steer clear of those sorts of discussions. But I admire your ability to have them and that quick back-and-forth was hot.

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13 hours ago, owlman76 said:

wetting herself then had to walk home with soaking feet, should have just gone behind a bush.lol

Yes that is the situation when someone is not happy peeing outside and pushes the limits.  Whilst my wife is reluctant to pee outside, she has never let it get that bad.  She will pee outside in preference to wetting herself but only person outside of totally unavoidable. 

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13 hours ago, steamlover6 said:

she sadly doesn't see this as an interesting, exciting or naughty activity as you and I do

No, I agree.  She just sees it as a function of nature that has to be dealt with and sees no embarrassment in doing so outside or talking about it.  Still got for me to know that when she is out she won’t hesitate to answer nature’s call when it arises and I can enjoy imagining her baring all and squatting behind a bush.

I am not going to mention it again for a while, so it doesn’t look obvious, but I am sure I will bring the conversation back there at some convenient point when it fits into the conversation.  

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12 hours ago, The99Club said:

This is great!

Personally, for me,  I have realized that I often cannot handle discussions like that one because I get blinded by my excitement and am unable to see when I may be crossing a line. So unless the connection is so distant that it won't impact my inner circle I just steer clear of those sorts of discussions. But I admire your ability to have them and that quick back-and-forth was hot.

Yes it is a difficult one to decide where that line is and how to have the conversation without it seeming weird or it causing more interest than it deserves.

my approach is to think about what someone not interested in pee might say.  The fact that I started from the point of view of avoiding peeing made it more likely to be a general and innocent chat.  If I had gone straight in with “All that hot chocolate - I bet you had to squat in a bush!” Then that might have seemed a bit over interested.

I also avoided the obvious “I would love to have seen that” or anything like that.  

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4 hours ago, Alfresco said:

 If I had gone straight in with “All that hot chocolate - I bet you had to squat in a bush!” Then that might have seemed a bit over interested.

 

Haha, totally. Just for me, personally, I know when to draw the line with my sarcastic humor (most of the time) and other areas, but when it comes to peeing I just don't trust myself. Doesn't mean I never try though...

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19 hours ago, owlman76 said:

a lot of it comes down to being able to 'read' a person,

Exactly that.   Some women take it in good spirit - others get all embarrassed or shirty over it, so you need to be careful and see what type of person they are.

19 hours ago, owlman76 said:

I'd politely point out that she'd probably find it a lot more embarrassing walking around in piss soaked clothing.

I would also use this tactic, and additionally I would point out that it is totally natural, not something to be ashamed of and that it would be better to risk being seen by a stranger for 30 secs whilst weeing, than to be in wet clothes with everyone knowing what had happened.   The chances of being spotted (if you are careful) is pretty slim and even if you are spotted then it will be someone who you will never see again, so be careful by all means, but better to be comfortable.

19 hours ago, owlman76 said:

I did actually see that happen once in Blackpool

I did as well, only it was Brighton.   I have seen many girls pee outside, but only one have a full on wetting.   I wrote about it here:

 

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I totally agree with this woman, if you gotta go you gotta go, it is useless to be shy. Just find the most suitable place and pee. I don't like to do things with the need of pee, I feel nervous and I don't enjoy things, so better to find a place, despite it is not maybe the most "polite" place and relieve yourself. This is my point.

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I love having casual conversations with women, that suddenly take a 180 and fall straight into my fantasies!

This female co-worker and I text via chat every day while working, and sometimes evenings and weekends! A few months ago, a conversation switched to porn really fast and we got to talk about all kinds of nasty porn clips we had seen. Of course we mentioned the classic Two Girls One Cup, and she was very casual talking about it! At this time I'm sitting alone in my office getting hard, just wanting to walk over to see her and continue this in person. But like many mentioned, I didn't want to cross that line in the work place. It just amazed me how easily any conversation can turn to sex!

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On 1/25/2021 at 6:48 PM, owlman76 said:

When you gotta go you gotta go,I remember walking with a girl once and she wouldn,t go when she had to. she had her winter boots on and a pair of waterproof pants on over her leggings  as it kept raining. ended up wetting herself then had to walk home with soaking feet, should have just gone behind a bush.lol

It's funny how some girls aren't bothered if they need to pee outside but others will do their best to avoid it. Us guys seem to be far more willing to pee outside.

What influences this mindset? Is it whether they grew up in a city or country, the latter making it more nessasary to pee behind a bush? Is it down to shyness or a fear of being seen by a stranger? Is it because they need to pull their pants down and squat?

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On 1/25/2021 at 5:05 AM, Alfresco said:

My wife has a work colleague who is aged about 35, good curvy figure.   I have known her for quite a few years as I am quite involved with my wife's business.   I know that she enjoys going for walks on a regular basis with her daughter and in the first lockdown she used to go out walking for a large part of her day, saying it was her one exercise for the day, which meant that she couldn't go home, so I have suspected that she is not averse to peeing outside or she had a cast iron bladder.  This morning, I had it confirmed.   I saw her at the business and she was saying how they had gone for a long walk on Saturday early morning to see the sun rise from a local viewpoint.  She mentioned that they were out for about 4 hours.  I mentioned that it was a beautiful weekend for walking, if a bit cold.  She walks from her house and mentioned that she always stopped at a supermarket cafe to pick up a hot chocolate to keep her a bit warm.  Our conversation then continued like this:

Me - "That's a great idea on a cold day.  I often take a flask cup of tea with me"

Her - "Yes, we do like our hot chocolate - not into tea though"

Me - "Do you not prefer to take a flask cup from home?  You go out walking regularly and it would be a bit cheaper"

Her - "Oh we do, but we've always drunk it by the time we get to the supermarket, so we call in and get a refill"  {the supermarket would be about a half hour walk from her house}

{I couldn't resist developing the conversation}

Me - "Ah, makes sense I guess, but you've got to be careful you don't drink too much or you'll need a wee whilst your out"

Her - "I don't worry about that - there are plenty of bushes" {She had no hesitation in openly saying that, no embarrassment, no pausing or trying to divert the conversation - just straight out with it}

Me - "That's my attitude, but {my wife} is not so keen"

Her - "What?  Really?  If you need a wee, then you need a wee - that's what bushes are for!"

Me - "I know, but she is a bit shy and avoids it where possible - I keep telling her it is only natural and I don't hesitate to go if I need to"

Her - "Maybe I'm just used to it, but it is never a problem for me"

With that, someone else arrived and the conversation changed, but at least I know know that she is willing to pee outside.   All I need to do now is engineer going on a walk with her when this lockdown has finished.  Maybe I'll see if I can get my wife to come on a walk with her and me and then when she goes for a pee she might encourage my wife to be more relaxed.   That would be a great result.

She has also expressed an interest in kayaking, so I may have to use that as an excuse to take her outdoors.

<<That's what bushes are for.>>

<<Piss away, coward!>>

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On 1/25/2021 at 9:05 PM, Alfresco said:

My wife has a work colleague who is aged about 35, good curvy figure.   I have known her for quite a few years as I am quite involved with my wife's business.   I know that she enjoys going for walks on a regular basis with her daughter and in the first lockdown she used to go out walking for a large part of her day, saying it was her one exercise for the day, which meant that she couldn't go home, so I have suspected that she is not averse to peeing outside or she had a cast iron bladder.  This morning, I had it confirmed.   I saw her at the business and she was saying how they had gone for a long walk on Saturday early morning to see the sun rise from a local viewpoint.  She mentioned that they were out for about 4 hours.  I mentioned that it was a beautiful weekend for walking, if a bit cold.  She walks from her house and mentioned that she always stopped at a supermarket cafe to pick up a hot chocolate to keep her a bit warm.  Our conversation then continued like this:

Me - "That's a great idea on a cold day.  I often take a flask cup of tea with me"

Her - "Yes, we do like our hot chocolate - not into tea though"

Me - "Do you not prefer to take a flask cup from home?  You go out walking regularly and it would be a bit cheaper"

Her - "Oh we do, but we've always drunk it by the time we get to the supermarket, so we call in and get a refill"  {the supermarket would be about a half hour walk from her house}

{I couldn't resist developing the conversation}

Me - "Ah, makes sense I guess, but you've got to be careful you don't drink too much or you'll need a wee whilst your out"

Her - "I don't worry about that - there are plenty of bushes" {She had no hesitation in openly saying that, no embarrassment, no pausing or trying to divert the conversation - just straight out with it}

Me - "That's my attitude, but {my wife} is not so keen"

Her - "What?  Really?  If you need a wee, then you need a wee - that's what bushes are for!"

Me - "I know, but she is a bit shy and avoids it where possible - I keep telling her it is only natural and I don't hesitate to go if I need to"

Her - "Maybe I'm just used to it, but it is never a problem for me"

With that, someone else arrived and the conversation changed, but at least I know know that she is willing to pee outside.   All I need to do now is engineer going on a walk with her when this lockdown has finished.  Maybe I'll see if I can get my wife to come on a walk with her and me and then when she goes for a pee she might encourage my wife to be more relaxed.   That would be a great result.

She has also expressed an interest in kayaking, so I may have to use that as an excuse to take her outdoors.

Haha I love her attitude! Wish I was the same, but I’m much more like your wife lol.

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Totally agree on the wonderful-ness of those sort of chats, that skirt (no pun intended) in a direction which is both tantalising to us and just a conversation to anyone else.  And on peeing outdoors, it also very subtly reinforces that it's fine to do it, we're not expressing any negativity.  Maybe next time there'll be a thought in the back of her mind, 'Well, like Alfresco said "surely if you're desperate..."'.

And maybe I'm reading far too much into the 'usually manage'...

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1 hour ago, Alfresco said:

New Years Eve gave rise to a great experience with the lady first mentioned in this post.      She came to our house with her daughter for NYE to include dinner followed by time in the hot tub.  For ease, I'll refer to them as M (for Mum) and D (for daughter) in this post.  D is a child so not part of the interest other than some things she said triggered actions by M.   I picked them up from their house about 5:00pm and M was in a good mood.  She said that she'd already had a glass of wine and was looking forward to dinner.   We all agreed to have dinner fairly early so we could do things after dinner.   

M had a glass of wine when she arrived and then another with dinner which was about 7pm.   We finished about 7:30 and said we'd have half an hour for food to go down before going into the hot tub.   So by this time, M had had 3 glasses of wine plus some lemonade and hadn't been to the toilet.     At 8:00 Mrs A and I went to the toilet and got changed into our swim wear.  D had been to the toilet already about 15 mins before.   We offered M a bedroom to get changed, but she said she already had her swimsuit on under her clothes, so she just took her clothes off without too much concern.   She still didn't go to the toilet, which I surmised to be because it was too much hassle going to the toilet having to take off her clothes and swimsuit.    

We all got into the hot tub and as M got in, she stood onto one of the corner seats and squatted down to acclimatise to the hot water.   It might have been my active imagination, but she definitely seemed to pause there for about a minute and there definitely seemed to be a bit of movement in the water around her crotch with the slightest tinge of yellow.   I can't swear to it, but given that she had at least three glasses of wine plus lemonade in her bladder and hadn't peed for at least 3 hours, I'd find it difficult to believe she didn't pee there and she was just waiting for the opportunity to pee in the hot tub, knowing it would be easier than messing with disrobing for the toilet.  M then slipped fully into the tub and sat on one of the seats with Mrs A in the corner to M's right, me in the corner to M's left, so I was diagonally opposite Mrs A.   D sat in between M and Mrs A.   Almost as soon as she got in, D announced "No peeing in the hot tub!", to which I said "Yes, it is best not to pee in the hot tub, or we end up sitting in it for months until the water is changed."   M then looked very sheepish and the following conversation ensued:  

M: "So, do you not change the water every time then?"   
Me: "No, because it takes too long to fill and heat the water and it would also be 1400 litres of water wasted every time, so the water stays in and remains hot all the time."
It seemed to take her a bit to get to understand this because she then asked "How long does it take to heat?"
Me: "About 10 hours"
M: "10 Hours!  So you have to properly plan when you want to use it"   
I had to then explain again that it was permanently heated so it was always ready.    So, at this point, I'm thinking definitely M thought it was fine to pee in the tub because the water would be changed and now she was feeling guilty for having inflicted her pee on the rest of us for the next few months.

We moved on from this and chatted on, drank more drink etc., etc.   After about an hour and a half, Mrs A had had enough (she is not too keen on staying in for ages) and got out and went to get dressed.  She came back and sat near the tub chatting to us, presumably having peed when she went inside.   At one point, M got out of the tub for some fresh air and stood in the garden.   I thought she might be using it as an excuse to pee down her legs on the grass, but Mrs A went and stood and chatted with her, so I don't know (a) whether that was her intent or (b) whether she did it or not.   I think I had it answered though, because not long after, D got out of the tub and got herself mostly dried so she could go in to the toilet.   Whilst Mrs A took her inside, I said to M that I was going to cool off for a minute and got out of the tub and went down the garden where I peed on the grass.   I got back in the tub and I said to M "OK, actually I just needed to pee, but it is too much hassle to get dried and go inside, so I was a bit naughty and peed down the garden.  At this point, Mrs A and D returned, but just a few minutes later, M got out to "Cool off" and headed down the garden.   When she came back I asked "Is that better?" to which she laughed and said "Yes, much and so much easier".   So, I didn't get to see her pee, but I know that she peed in my garden.   I couldn't help but feel a slight stirring in my shorts at the knowledge that she was peeing outside, so close to me and wasn't worried about letting me know that she had peed in the garden.    I'm not sure what she would have done if I hadn't led by example, but I kind of anticipated that she wouldn't be upset if I admitted to peeing in the garden and I was right.

Also, at some point, we had been talking about various things including a trip that M & D had been on.   D said she would say something embarrassing about her mum, but M told her not to.   Mrs A said what if I bribed you with chocolate, but D still declined to say anything.   Later on, when D and Mrs A went inside because D had been in long enough and wanted to get dry, so that left M and I in the tub together.   I said "So, go on then, you still haven't let on what was so embarrassing", which led to the following conversation:

M : "I really shouldn't say anything"
Me: "Why not, I'm sure it can't be that bad"
M: "Well it is just about a wee"
Me: "OK, what about a wee?"
M: "Well, My friend, her boy, D and me were staying in this hotel, we had a few drinks and then went to bed.  In the morning I woke up desperate but my friend was in the bathroom."  

She hesitated at this point and I wondered what she might possibly be going to say - maybe she had leaked in bed, or maybe she had improvised with something to pee in like the bin or kettle?  My mind was thinking of all the fun things that I'd like to hear.

Me: "Well, go on then"
M: "Well nothing major really, just that all that drink really needed to get out and when I finally did get to the bathroom I peed for literally two minutes.  It just wouldn't stop and everyone was laughing at how long I was peeing for - it was so embarrassing."
Me: "Ah, that's fine, only to be expected really.  That happens to me when I've been in the cinema for a long film.  I end up standing at the urinal and just peeing and peeing forever.  I blame those big drinks though."
M: "Yeah, I know that one too!"

That was about it, but I still can't help thinking about her peeing in my garden and she also loved being in the hot tub so much that she wants to come and do it again sometime, so, hopefully she will be relaxed about peeing in the garden again and maybe sometime I might even catch her doing it.

Quite, quite wonderful! Thanks so much for describing this so fully @Alfresco 🙂 

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Just now, Kupar said:

Quite, quite wonderful! Thanks so much for describing this so fully @Alfresco 🙂 

Well I wasn't sure whether too much detail would make it a boring read, but then I thought "My wife's work colleague peed in the hot tub and then the garden" wouldn't quite do it justice.

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