Ladies Room

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

I made a suggestion like this in the recent survey and I was thinking if I started it myself and it did well then maybe there can be a permanent area for ladies in the forum. Not as a 'sexual' topics thing but just as a general ladies area. We can discuss things like makeup, female health, celebrity gossip, girls clothes etc. This isn't a place for men to really ask questions to women. Though I could start another thread like that if guys want. This is more of just a very women focused thread. 

Question: How long do you typically keep nail polish? I've had some nail polishes for years and I'm not sure if i should get rid of them. 

Comment: I went to the book store last week and I noticed how many cool magazines they have now for young women. There was a span of a few years where they had barely any magazines for young women. I'm talking like..teen girls/twenties. They have neat magazines now that focus on creativity and positive moods. It's exciting! I remember when I was a teenager I'd get YM, Teen, Seventeen and Sugar magazines. 

[Sophie 24,410]

Is there any reason why these topics could not just be posted in general chat? I don't see the need for a women's only section. 

I've never thrown out nail polish. 

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

Since there is an overwhelming male presence on peefans I thought it would be nice to have a girls only area. I really like this idea and I think some female members on here would appreciate it. I think it would bring the female members closer together as a form of unity and women empowerment and help self esteem. A lot of time girls make posts that do not become 'popular' they get buried in general chat. To have a 'regular' separate thread for just girls i think would be awesome!  And help other girls feel like they are equally represented and encouraged to be here. 

Edited July 7, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[Guest UnabashedUser]

3 hours ago, Sophie said:

Is there any reason why these topics could not just be posted in general chat? I don't see the need for a women's only section. 

I've never thrown out nail polish. 

Agreed. A separate "only" category reeks of sexism. 

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

I didn't realize people would be so against a separate thread for ladies. You don't think at all that having a ladies only room might possibly help females feel like they have more of a presence here? Nothing at all stopping guys from making their own if they want to. 

The majority of posts on this website are made by men, with men replying. One of the main things that could help this site honestly is more of a female presence then there is now. I would imagine that mods/admins would want to really try whatever they can to bring more ladies here. To help ladies feel more comfortable and like they have a place here. 

So quickly bashing this idea, instead of saying 'Cool. Let's have a guys separate thread too.' also reeks of sexism.Not even giving my idea a second thought. Just completely throwing it out the window especially after my post 'Let's bring more female members here' got so much positive feedback. 

So many men already know and feel comfortable to be here. Yet so many women join and feel too nervous, anxious to post... not even photos but just...anything. I hope the site does whatever they can to help women feel more comfortable here. Changes really do need to be made if the site wants to even become somewhat close to 'equal'. There is already an issue with women not feeling comfortable with expressing their sexual side of watersports interests. Some may not like the 'suggestions/changes'. But maybe it's what this site needs to bring more girls here. Cause trust me... men far out number women here. And not to say a 'ladies room' would make a huge difference but... not wanting to really do anything to change the inequality here and just leave things how they are.... won't help this site at all.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[Guest UnabashedUser]

So your solution is to gather more women here, lock them in a room marked "ladies only". How is that helpful to the vast majority of users who are men? 

It's not. 

👎😡⚾️👜

Edited July 7, 2019 by UnabashedUser

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

Nope didn't even suggest or hint that women should only be able to post in that one thread. LOL I'm a girl myself. Why would I myself suggest a change where there's only 1 thread for women to post in and no where else. That would be shooting myself in the foot now wouldn't it? I meant on top of the threads etc that women already post in the rest of the forum to also have a place for themselves. Besides the 'Ladies only' room would be about makeup, magazines, celebrities, and girls clothes. How many men here are wanting to discuss that anyway? You're taking my idea and exaggerating it. The idea isn't to help the men here. The men here already have clear voice on this site. the issue isn't men. Men shouldn't feel 'threatened' by this in any way what so ever! It was supposed to be an encouraging idea to bring more ladies here!  This isn't about men. It's about women and giving them more options here. To be as welcoming to females as possible.  Sorry that a ladies only room along with the other threads women have already is offensive to you even though men clearly dominate this site and have for quite some time. I am just trying to make a change. But if you want only men to run this site from here on out and be so quick to be 'hurt' by my suggestion then i guess I see where you stand. 

Yes there's no rules stating women can't post anywhere on this site but this 'freedom' isn't helping bring more ladies here. We want more ladies here. And changes should be made to encourage more women. Again, men can totally create a male only room. But since you didn't suggest that and are clearly bashing a ladies room.. i mean hey i don't want to divide community this either. But i also don't want this place to be testosterone filled. 

Instead of even considering giving this idea a try your twisting the idea around to make me look like a bad guy. Putting words in my mouth that i never even said.

Edited July 7, 2019 by Blackinksoul30

[Guest UnabashedUser]

Amusing that I'd feel intimidated in a chatroom by a person I've never met.  On the other hand if you feel threatened by what I post, feel free to put me on  ignore. 

What is offensive is the fact that you feel  my open expression of fact is a personal affront to you and that you assume that men dominate this site which clearly offends you.

As for your idea that I am exaggerating your idea, you've done a fair job of that yourself. But it's a lot easier to try and point fingers to deflect the accurate impression that a 'woman only' section of a site, or a bar, or a restaurant, or other PUBLIC accommodation isn't sexist.  Legal experts would take issue with you on this one.

Rest assured these are my opinions, given in good humor with no injurious intent expressed or implied.  If you get angry at my words, the anger is on you. 😋😜😅😢👏🇺🇸👄🍩

[HitEmAll 1,066]

I agree with Sophie and UnabashedUser that there is no need for a women's only thread.

I'd say, luckily everyone (men and women) on this site behaves extremely well, and from what I can see there are virtually never any problems with inappropriate posts.

There are way more men, but on the other hand everyone knows the few women that regularly post. Therefore I do not have the impression that "men clearly dominate this site". IF anyone dominates this site then it is spy, and we're all happy about that.. 😅😅

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

UnabashedUser What about a 'Ladies Only' room offends you personally? How is having a 'ladies Room' on peefans going to affect your time here on this site? How would it change your activity on this site? Even though it's a room that wouldn't interest you and you could just ignore it.  What motivated you to be so quick to say 'NO' to the idea. If you weren't so offended you wouldn't have shot it down so quickly and you wouldn't have accused me of sexism if my idea didn't hurt you. Clearly it touched a sore spot. 

If you weren't so offended you wouldn't have 1. called it sexist. 2. claimed I was only giving women 1 place to post and 'locking them in a room' (which is false).

If a girls only place didn't bother you so much you would have ignored my post and went about your day. But you felt so angry about my idea that not only did you not ignore it... you didn't just say 'I don't agree with this.' you claimed it as sexist. then made up a false statement. I mean you didn't say, 'Can we have a guys only room.' you specifically targeted the idea of a girls only room. Male and female equality aggravates you doesn't it? Men and women getting equal pay. Coverage for birth control pills bother you? Feminine issues don't really fall as important under your radar? I mean if this is how you feel about womens issues that's your opinion. Can't change that. But the decision of what happens on this site isn't up to you. It's up to the mods and the admin. They will collectively decide what happens on this site. 

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

1 minute ago, HitEmAll said:

I agree with Sophie and UnabashedUser that there is no need for a women's only thread.

I'd say, luckily everyone (men and women) on this site behaves extremely well, and from what I can see there are virtually never any problems with inappropriate posts.

There are way more men, but on the other hand everyone knows the few women that regularly post. Therefore I do not have the impression that "men clearly dominate this site". IF anyone dominates this site then it is spy, and we're all happy about that.. 😅😅

I love Spy don't get me wrong. Spy is a  wonderful member of the site. But no one should feel that 'Well we have Spy. She equals a hundred women so we don't need any other women here.'  

 

Clearly i'm getting the vibe that the majority of members don't want more women here. That they are fine with the overwhelming amount of men and 1 woman that posts a lot and a few others that post a bit. If that's peoples opinion then fine. Have a meat fest with only a few ladies being worshiped. 

[HitEmAll 1,066]

4 minutes ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

Clearly i'm getting the vibe that the majority of members don't want more women here. That they are fine with the overwhelming amount of men and 1 woman that posts a lot and a few others that post a bit. If that's peoples opinion then fine. Have a meat fest with only a few ladies being worshiped. 

Why would men that like sexy spy not like to have more women here? That is really ridiculous, I'm sorry but I cannot follow your reasoning here.. 🤔

I think, if you look at how last week the two new active women were welcome then this shows that new women are very welcome. This is probably also the best thing to try to convince more women to become (more) active on this site.. (?)

[Peefreak99 3,722]

To make it equal there should be a mens room too then just a place for us guys to tallk about anything we want really. But tbh i don't like either of those things that would segregate the site this place is for EVERYONE and then every forum here should be for EVERYONE. But if we do get a " ladies room" i would feel misstreated and actually insulted if we didin't get a " mens room" if we have both it's equal if we have none of them it's equal if we just have one of them it's UNequal 

[Peefreak99 3,722]

Btw @Blackinksoul30 you say that we men don't want more girls here? I have never seen anyone write that they don't want more girls here. But why should one gender get stuff that the other dosen't get? I mean i guess you are for equallity just like me and the others here?. So then the only equal thing would be to either give both genders a special forum or none of them. I don't like the idea of segregation here tho so i say no ladies or mens room at all.

[Admin 14,790]

Firstly... I think we all need to chill out a little. There is no reason this needs to become a sexism/feminism issue - we're all here purely to have fun. 

I think everyone would like to see more women here. 

Whilst I agree that we don't want to start segregating the site, I certainly see no harm in a lighthearted thread to discuss more feminine topics. Whether women will want to chat about that sort of thing here is another question, but by all means we can give it a go. If it does prompt some other women to post a little more, then it's win-win. I don't see what we're losing by having the option there if any women do want to chat with the other women on the site.

It's not like this is some sort of privilege women are being given - anyone is welcome to make a thread in the general chat. Sure there can be a guys room if guys actually want to chat specifically with other guys about certain topics, but if it's just for the sake of being 'even' it seems a little pointless. I mean do guys honestly feel they're missing out by not talking about make-up and womens clothing etc?

Everyone will be able to access every thread, nobody is getting special treatment, but I see no issue with one thread for specific groups if they want them... it's not affecting anyone else. I made an entire club once called 'UK pee fans' and people didn't call me racist. 

Let's move on from debating the idea and just let the thread takes its natural course. After all, I'm sure we all have more enjoyable things to be discussing here.

 

[spywareonya 37,962]

5 hours ago, Sophie said:

nail polish

SHARE PLEASE???

Ihihihihi letz be girlz together!!!

[spywareonya 37,962]

1 hour ago, HitEmAll said:

IF anyone dominates this site then it is spy, and we're all happy about that..

And you know why?

Because I chatted a lot with @Admin and understood his dream of this forum becoming more than a peefans site, but a safe house for all the happy bunch of sensitive and porn-loving people out there

Everybody here respects him but very few understand why I adore him that much, the strain and effort he puts in this forum are overhuman

I am the armed hand on an ideal, this is why I dominate

Because I SERVE

I serve this forum, because I see the Whole picture

This place will make history

In ten years from now we will piss on pornhub

 

 

1 hour ago, HitEmAll said:

Why would men that like sexy spy not like to have more women here?

I want them myself!!! Anybody is forgetting about the fact that I am half LESBIAN????

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Peefreak99 said:

so i say no ladies or mens room at all

If we had a secluded female area, how could we teach boys about how cool our clothes are???

Plus, I dress for BOYS!!! Unless I stay NAKED!!!

[kinkydom 203]

On 7/7/2019 at 8:02 AM, Blackinksoul30 said:

I made a suggestion like this in the recent survey and I was thinking if I started it myself and it did well then maybe there can be a permanent area for ladies in the forum. Not as a 'sexual' topics thing but just as a general ladies area. We can discuss things like makeup, female health, celebrity gossip, girls clothes etc. This isn't a place for men to really ask questions to women. Though I could start another thread like that if guys want. This is more of just a very women focused thread. 

Question: How long do you typically keep nail polish? I've had some nail polishes for years and I'm not sure if i should get rid of them. 

Comment: I went to the book store last week and I noticed how many cool magazines they have now for young women. There was a span of a few years where they had barely any magazines for young women. I'm talking like..teen girls/twenties. They have neat magazines now that focus on creativity and positive moods. It's exciting! I remember when I was a teenager I'd get YM, Teen, Seventeen and Sugar magazines. 

If you want a Ladies Only Room, go for it. Block any guy that shows up. There should be a forum for women to talk, vent and share without the judging eyes and comments of male opinions. If guys wanted a Mens Only Room, no one would blink an eye. And if you're a lady that doesn't want to join? Don't!

[spywareonya 37,962]

19 minutes ago, kinkydom said:

If you want a Ladies Only Room, go for it. Block any guy that shows up. There should be a forum for women to talk, vent and share without the judging eyes and comments of male opinions. If guys wanted a Mens Only Room, no one would blink an eye. And if you're a lady that doesn't want to join? Don't!

You're great with your open heart attitude, if you remember I already told you in PM I liked this attitude of yours, but this time I ask you to cut deeper and see things hidden

Such a section will do no good because

20 minutes ago, kinkydom said:

without the judging eyes and comments of male opinions

This line you wrote is NOT something that should be avoided through seclusion, but trough the merciless intervention of the Staff, that would prove to be much less innocent than they look like, was a man EVER to disrespect another

This forum exists INDEED IN ORDER TO make men sensitive like women and women brave as men, seclusion would be a misunderstanding of the final goal

[Peefreak99 3,722]

2 hours ago, kinkydom said:

If you want a Ladies Only Room, go for it. Block any guy that shows up. There should be a forum for women to talk, vent and share without the judging eyes and comments of male opinions. If guys wanted a Mens Only Room, no one would blink an eye. And if you're a lady that doesn't want to join? Don't!

Judging eyes of men? Im a man and i don't judge sure there are men that judges and also girls that do the same thing. If we are going to be equal here we should either have 2  seperate rooms for each gender or no seperate room at all. Why should just one gender get their own room. I mean if there was a " mens room" but not a " ladies room" im sure you would get mad so why can't both genders have that privilige. Btw why do you say " judging eyes of men"? If i would generalize all wommen wouldn't you get mad?. Btw i saw on your profile now that you are a male sorry dude but still im sticking to my point 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Peefreak99

[Blackinksoul30 1,246]

In the end... no one would have been happy... 

Weither there was a ladies only room and no mens only room.

Or a ladies only room and Mens only room.

There would still be people complaining that that is only trying to 'segregate people'. Though I don't know how since the rest of the forum would stay the same. Free to all genders. In the end the voice was clear.  gender separate only rooms would have been a bad idea. Men would have complained that 'it's not fair that girls have a room only to themselves. you can't lock guys out' even if there was also a mens only room. People would have complained either way, no matter what. Freedom is important to a lot of people on here. They don't want to feel restrained or feel like they're somehow 'missing out (discussing makeup, ladies clothes and periods)'. they want the freedom to post whatever they want anywhere in any thread. And girls want the same freedom as well but more men have an issue with this than the ladies do. Maybe they think if girls had a separate thread they'll somehow start bashing men. Even though in reality having two separate gender only rooms is as 'equal' as you can be. There would still be people angry and against it. Even though also in reality it honestly means no harm. Having two separate gender rooms wouldn't make any of the other threads any lesser value and men could still interact with women and women could still interact with men in the other threads. This tiny suggestion I made really got blown out of proportion and people were so quick to take offense to it. I thought adding on that there could have been a 'mens' only room would help. But people still were pissed. I feel like the majority of men here don't want to feel like they're being excluded, no matter what even if they also had a place for themselves. Girls having a room where they can talk amongst themselves about personal girl stuff and what not and not have to feel worried that a guy will come in and start asking questions about their personal lives or asking for opinions/advice... not that that's a bad thing. But maybe some girls want a break from that in just 1 separate room. But guys don't want to let girls have that, even if they themselves had a room to themselves. To them it's still 'not fair' and 'not right'. 

[Peefreak99 3,722]

@Blackinksoul30 as a man i take that as a insult. Why would i not want girls to have a seperate room? What i have said is that " EITHER BOTH GENDERS HAVE A SEPERATE ROOM OR NOBODY HAS IT"  it's about equallity isin't that what you want? Yes i would have a problem if only girls had a special room and you and many other girls would have a problem if only guys had a special room. You know why? because it's not equal. And why would it be a man dissturbing the girls thread? Couldn't a  girl dissturb it too or even dissturb the mens thread with unwellcome questions?. Can you please stop tallking about my gender in a insulting way? Just like i shouldn't generalize girls we are all INDIVIDUALS not a bunch of robots. There is good guys , good girls , bad guys and bad girls we are equal so can we stop this now?

[spywareonya 37,962]

19 minutes ago, Peefreak99 said:

@Blackinksoul30 as a man i take that as a insult. Why would i not want girls to have a seperate room? What i have said is that " EITHER BOTH GENDERS HAVE A SEPERATE ROOM OR NOBODY HAS IT"  it's about equallity isin't that what you want? Yes i would have a problem if only girls had a special room and you and many other girls would have a problem if only guys had a special room. You know why? because it's not equal. And why would it be a man dissturbing the girls thread? Couldn't a  girl dissturb it too or even dissturb the mens thread with unwellcome questions?. Can you please stop tallking about my gender in a insulting way? Just like i shouldn't generalize girls we are all INDIVIDUALS not a bunch of robots. There is good guys , good girls , bad guys and bad girls we are equal so can we stop this now?

The problem is deeper, I quoted you in this same post in hope to explain

Anyway, secluded zones are a bad thing, for this reason:

2 hours ago, spywareonya said:

This forum exists INDEED IN ORDER TO make men sensitive like women and women brave as men, seclusion would be a misunderstanding of the final goal

 

 

 

Now, the serious problem:

38 minutes ago, Blackinksoul30 said:

some girls want a break

This is the CORE OF ALL YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING

 

Boys are are not such that you could need a break from them, and were they ever to act in such a way… they will be BANNED

If you mean "break" in a milder stance, in the guise that you simply won't like to have them around 24/7... ehm… forums are the OPPOSITE to this… forums are indeed places where everybody is around you 24/7, boys and girls and gays and lesbians and hetero and bisex and everybody!!!

You have esteem-issues and this leads you to isolate, but the bothering you feel is simply the attrition between the part of your mind that definitely identifies you a a loser (the part that has no trust in your chances to overcome your fears) and the other part of you, that wants to FIGHT, and which has ME AND THE WHOLE FORUM as sponsor

 

You are undergoing a battle in your unconscious, Forums are not places where to take a break from people, we go there TO MEET people, the problem here is NOT that girls cannot have a pesonal retreat, but that girls here do not at all feel the need for a break from boys

 

Only persons with deep problems can feel such a need at your age, and guess what, when I write deep problems I mean NO OFFENSE as I almost murdered criminals and got killed for that and have had anger issues since my abused childhood and the tortures I endured in my outlawed life and I managed to recover and grow up only recently, so guess what, to me is a compliment, it means you did not had a life as shallow as a Tv spot where everybody smiles like morons

 

But now your unconscious wants to overcome such limitations, and is PROJECTING your shadow (un-admitted, repressed problems) unto people which LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE but are just SIMILAR, the link you see is a neurological mechanism, indeed, PROJECTION

 

You want to summon the subject of people overwhelming you like in a zombie movie, and you are doing through PROJECTION, which means you uses a sub-reason to point to the true goal, without even yourself noticing

You REALLY BELIEVE you want more girls, or a girls only space, but what you really want is to face personal issues stimulated by something which is going on, and this is GOOD, NOT BAD at all, but would be easier if you see through your anxiety

 

 

You feel judged since the beginning sweetie, to the point to ask the Staff to edit posts around to suit your attitude of taking offense, if you really were this way you would have just LEFT THE FUCKING FORUM WITHOUT A WORD!!!!

 

Why you did not act that way?

I tell you, after twenty years into Psychology and Therapy:

You smmoned this mess instead of sneaking away because you wanted to SOLVE your attitude of feeling judged, and are scanning everything related to it

Because you are a FIGHTER!!! NOT a coward!!!

 

You don't want more girls nor a secluded space, you want to feel not-judged

Did somebody ever told you that we can be meaner than boys?

A girl-only section is NO GUARANTEE to feel welcomed

 

You have a clear male-vs-female unconscious problem and this leads you to illuse that without boys around you would be safe, but it's wrong

Feeling judged is AN ATTITUDE, blame Others is just kicking the can onward

 

Let's help you to understand that you are welcomed ten thousand times more than you fear, THAT would solve things, not some clumsy proposals

We love you: open your eyes

Edited July 8, 2019 by spywareonya

[Peefreak99 3,722]

5 minutes ago, spywareonya said:

The problem is deeper, I quoted you in this same post in hope to explain

Anyway, secluded zones are a bad thing, for this reason:

 

 

 

Now, the serious problem:

This is the CORE OF ALL YOUR MISUNDERSTANDING

 

Boys are are not such that you could need a break from them, and were they ever to act in such a way… they will be BANNED

If you mean "break" in a milder stance, in the guise that you simply won't like to have them around 24/7... ehm… forums are the OPPOSITE to this… forums are indeed places where everybody is around you 24/7, boys and girls and gays and lesbians and hetero and bisex and everybody!!!

You have esteem-issues and this leads you to isolate, but the bothering you feel is simply the attrition between the part of your mind that definitely identifies you a a loser (the part that has no trust in your chances to overcome your fears) and the other part of you, that wants to FIGHT, and which has ME AND THE WHOLE FORUM as sponsor

 

You are undergoing a battle in your unconscious, Forums are not places where to take a break from people, we go there TO MEET people, the problem here is NOT that girls cannot have a pesonal retreat, but that girls here do not at all feel the need for a break from boys

 

Only persons with deep problems can feel such a need at your age, and guess what, when I write deep problems I mean NO OFFENSE as I almost murdered criminals and got killed for that and have had anger issues since my abused childhood and the tortures I endured in my outlawed life and I managed to recover and grow up only recently, so guess what, to me is a compliment, it means you did not had a life as shallow as a Tv spot where everybody smiles like morons

 

But now your unconscious wants to overcome such limitations, and is PROJECTING your shadow (un-admitted, repressed problems) unto people which LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE but are just SIMILAR, the link you see is a neurological mechanism, indeed, PROJECTION

 

You want to summon the subject of people overwhelming you like in a zombie movie, and you are doing through PROJECTION, which means you uses a sub-reason to point to the true goal, without even yourself noticing

You REALLY BELIEVE you want more girls, or a girls only space, but what you really want is to face personal issues stimulated by something which is going on, and this is GOOD, NOT BAD at all, but would be easier if you see through your anxiety

 

 

You feel judged since the beginning sweetie, to the point to ask the Staff to edit posts around to suit your attitude of taking offense, if you really were this way you would have just LEFT THE FUCKING FORUM WITHOUT A WORD!!!!

 

Why you did not act that way?

I tell you, after twenty years into Psychology and Therapy:

You smmoned this mess instead of sneaking away because you wanted to SOLVE your attitude of feeling judged, and are scanning everything related to it

Because you are a FIGHTER!!! NOT a coward!!!

 

You don't want more girls nor a secluded space, you want to feel not-judged

Did somebody ever told you that we can be meaner than boys?

A girl-only section is NO GUARANTEE to feel welcomed

 

You have a clear male-vs-female unconscious problem and this leads you to illuse that without boys around you would be safe, but it's wrong

Feeling judged is AN ATTITUDE, blame Others is just kicking the can onward

 

Let's help you to understand that you are welcomed ten thousand times more than you fear, THAT would solve things, not some clumsy proposals

We love you: open your eyes

This dosen't justifying insulting my gender tho. 

[spywareonya 37,962]

26 minutes ago, Peefreak99 said:

This dosen't justifying insulting my gender tho. 

ABSOLUTELY

I just ask you to see Beyond rushy words and have mercy

This is all a ritualistic dance

Hurt people hurt Others, to see if they get forgiven.

It's not an evil act, children too provokes their parents to see if they are loved. It's a neurological path that activates when somebody is stressed, like Blackie

 

She hurt you. Now you can show her that ALTOUGH THIS IS WRONG, still you have the power to forgive.

This wil show her which kind of people are here, and you will be a hero. Just for you to know, HERO COMES FROM THE GREEK WORD EROS, which much Beyond erotism means "Hopeful propulsion"

If she did not hurt you you would have never had a chance to forgive, and you would have not partecipated to save a soul: now you can

 

Her pain hurted her

She hurted you

Now you can hurt her in retaliation, or focus against the TRUE ENEMY: The Invisible Hub of Silence, the world habit of being apart and suspicious, which INFECTED poor Blackie

See through her and see the true enemy.

You are part of the Legion. Legion against the Invisible Hub of Silence.

I publicly trust you as my armed hand: show what this forum can do to help a hurt soul