Popular Post greedyneedygirl 4,156 Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 A brief history of oral sex, from ancient China to DJ Khaled So, DJ Khaled point blank refuses to go down on his wife because “it’s different rules for men”. When pushed to clarify his stance on withholding head, but expecting plenty from her, he explained that “a woman should praise the man — the king.” A man thinking his partner should worship him with a blowjob is hardly big news, but what was newsworthy was the public’s reaction. Not only were DJ Khaled’s attitudes roundly condemned by women who (frankly) expect far more from their partners in 2018, but many prominent men came out to bat for team cunnilingus. Hurrah! There was genuine bafflement from the heterosexual man camp as to why someone would withhold dining at the Y. Many felt Khaled had let the side down. Others challenged his fears that yodelling in the valley emasculates a man, and argued (rightly) being a good lover means giving good head. There has been a definite historical shift. Sadly, DJ Khaled’s squeamishness around heterosexual cunnilingus is not without precedent. Freud theorised men are terrified of the vulva because they subconsciously fear it will castrate them (it won’t). His castration theories have been repeatedly challenged, but throughout much of Western history (pre-Dwayne Johnson, at least) men giving oral sex to women has been regarded as an emasculating act. Attitudes in non-Western cultures have been very different. For example, in ancient China, Taoism taught ingesting vaginal secretions would strengthen the Yang (male) essence. Therefore, pussy was not only celebrated, it was a superfood. Take that, kale crisps. An ancient Sumerian love song, dating to 2000 BC, also celebrates the taste of the vulva: “Like her mouth her vulva is sweet, like her vulva her mouth is sweet.” The Kama Sutra’s advice Surprisingly, the Indian ‘Kama Sutra’, composed sometime around the 3rd century AD, isn’t a fan of either fellatio or cunnilingus (unless it’s a man getting head from a male sex worker). But, the ‘Kama Sutra’ is crystal clear in its instruction that men should give women orgasms, and plenty of them. And if that isn’t enough to convince you, in Sanskrit, the language of the ‘Kama Sutra’, one of the words for the clitoris is ‘smara-chattra’, which literally translates to ‘umbrella of the god of love’. When cunnilingus is spoken about in Hellenistic literature things are not so rosy. Growling at the badger was generally regarded as something repugnant, used only by lesbians, and weak men whose erection had failed them. The fear that the penis is being replaced, or is not ‘enough’, is palpable. So, much so that many Ancient Greek insults involve accusing someone of rug munching – in much the same way as today we might call someone a ‘pussy’ to mean a weak person. Jokes that the vulva is dirty have a long history Greek playwrights, Aristophanes (c.446-386 BC) mentions cunnilingus several times to point to a character’s immoral and effeminate nature. His character Ariphrades appears in several plays as the ‘inventor’ of cunnilingus: ‘he gloats in vice, is not merely a dissolute man and utterly debauched- but he actually invented a new form of vice; for he pollutes his tongue with abominable pleasures’. First century Greek poet Nicarchus referred to cunnilingus as ‘sleeping in Phoenicia’, which sounds quite lovely but is actually a reference to the deep red dye made in the region, and an allusion to menstrual blood. Jokes that the vulva is dirty, bloody, polluted, etc. have a very long history indeed. And jokes often tap into much deeper fears. The Romans went one better and actually considered the word clitoris (landīca) an obscenity, in much the same way as ‘cunt’ is obscene today. It was regarded as so naughty, it really only appears in street graffiti; ‘Fulviae landicam peto’ (‘Seek the clitoris of Fulvia’), and ‘Eupla laxa landicosa’ (Eupla, a loose, large clitoris’). Of course, none of this means that cunnilingus didn’t happen, in fact the brothel frescoes at Pompeii show it was a service on offer – and an expensive one at that. But, it does mean sneezing in the cabbage was something of a taboo. Cunnilingus continued to be viewed as an unclean, emasculating, but nevertheless popular pastime well into the Middle Ages. Even the church got involved. The ninth-century ‘Old Irish Penitential’ contains the following advice for priests doling out penances; ‘Anyone who performs the fornication of the lips penance for four years if it is their first time, but if it is usually their custom seven’. The ‘lips’ referred to here are generally understood as being the labia. In Chaucer’s ‘The Miller’s Tale’ (1387), a young wife sticks her ‘naked ers’ (arse) out a window, where a simpering suitor kisses ‘her hole’, believing it to be her mouth. He then jumps back having ‘felte a thyng al rough and long’ and begins to shout that ‘womman hath no berd’ (beard). Humiliated at forced cunnilingus, he flees and plots his revenge. It has even been suggested that John Milton’s (1608-1674) description of the biblical Samson as losing all his ‘strength in the lascivious lap of a deceitful Concubine’, is a metaphor for how diving for pearls is unmanly. Interestingly, in the records of the Early Modern witch trials, many poor women accused were tortured into confessing acts of demonic cunnilingus. In 1619, Margaret Flowers confessed to having a black rat that sucked upon the teat on her ‘inward parts of her secrets’. In 1645, Margaret Moone was found to have ‘long teats or bigges in her secret parts, which seemed to have been lately sucked’ by her familiar. In Bury-St-Edmunds, 1665, Elderly widow Rose Cullender was found to have three teats in her vulva that she confessed had ‘lately been sucked, and upon the straining of it there issued out white milkie matter’. I could keep going but suffice to say that cunnilingus has long been caught up in gendered power struggles. In the deeply patriarchal world of yesteryear, the penis reigned supreme and any challenge to that power was viewed with suspicion. Little wonder, then, that a sex act that pleasures only the vulva and does not require a penis (or even a man), has come in for particular censor. But, what we say publicly is usually very different from what we enjoy in private, and people have been pleasuring each other orally for as long as there have been tits and tongues. Why do we do oral sex? But, rather than asking why someone wouldn’t give head, a far more interesting question, anthropologically speaking, is why do any of us do it? Oral sex has been observed throughout the animal kingdom, but humans indulge in this behaviour more than any other animal on the planet. From an evolutionally perspective, oral sex serves no procreative function and there have been many theories as to what is driving this behaviour. In 2013, Michael N. Pham theorised humans perform oral sex on each other to secure mating privileges and to try and detect infidelity. He suggested when a man goes down on a woman he is subconsciously on the hunt for another man’s sperm. Yum. Other studies have argued that we instinctively use oral sex to check the health, virility and cleanliness of a partner. According to a 2016 survey by Planned Parenthood, as many as 80% of women have difficulty with orgasm from vaginal intercourse alone, and between 5 and 10% of women never experience an orgasm. Ever. Whatever the evolutionary function, cunnilingus is very important, and despite the opinions of DJ pussy-phobe, most of us now understand this. We are finally in a place where women can not only ask for pleasure, but where men are keen to give it. So fellas, whether you’re subconsciously hunting for sperm, carrying out a quick fanny physical, or just looking for your ‘I’ve been a brave boy’ sticker, please do get stuck in. Because if you aren’t prepared to give as well as to receive, you’re not the King – you’re just bad in bed. Sadly, as Khaled has proved, fears that eating your partner out will somehow make you less of a man are still around today. 4 1 2 Link to post
Scot_Lover 1,877 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 I had to look up DJ kahled, I didn't know who he was, what a moose, lol. Did he have anything to add when he was called out for being a pussy? I love doing it, the taste, the thought of it, the enjoyment she gets (after a couple or several times, she will sleep for 6 hours) and I just love to get in there. I have the added bonus of having a second one to nibble on, and in certain positions I can alternate between them. They like each other's too, which does interesting things to me when I watch them. I have no idea why someone would not want to do this, yes it can smell, but that's part of it. If it's too much, she will go and have a shower, although I'll not hesitate to go get a warm face washer and clean her gently if she doesn't want to move. Really, how can you love someone, have sex with them and not do something as loving as this? I had a laugh at some of your references and descriptions too, very nicely written. 1 Link to post
F.W 5,734 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) Very interesting.I think for either sex its a way of showing your desire for each other. The very name "DJ Khaled" already indicates a total cretin before i even read the story.Anyone that puts the DJ before their name to me is a dickhead. Edited July 31, 2018 by fannywatcher 2 Link to post
P-Spud 1,352 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I love everything about it. The smell, the taste, the feel. The hands on the back of my head as the moment approaches. I pity the men who deny themselves this pleasure. 2 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 @greedyneedygirl The True Kama Sutra (I can tell you because though a Witch looks for the truth hidden beneath ALL religion, I am mainly a Kali-cult-based pratictioner and I spent years reading ancient texts) means "Invocation of the God of Life-Force", and the one we had been used to is an "official" versione written by a king that took portions from an original, Upanishad-age, and never written down, set of practices, which are indeed the origin of Tantra, I mean the real Tantra, not acrobatic sex but Necromancy (summoning of the dead or ghosts) through the offering of tons of life-energy exuded through orgiastic and fetishistic sex. That original version goes much more in pair with the Chinese and Sumerian conception of the vagina (Yoni) as a generator of power, because since the female womb produces the energy that links together the soul and the body of the new-formed baby, thus the vagina exudes trough his juices, a similar power, strenghtening the bond with life so that Death (and the dead actually) can be faced more efficiently Many times Alex ate me during certain extremes meditations, and oral sex is indeed part of many powerful rituals (until you reach those where dead-like trance is required, and those ones have little do with sex, yet cannot be reached unless you have previously reached an all-sexual mind-set) Anyway, I adore to suck my man's cock, and love when he goes down at me, he can do marvels with his tongue, furthermore, he's such a fucking dark person, it's like being unadmittingly-willfully getting almost-raped by some sexy smuggler scumbag, if I managed to transmit the feeling With girl, eating their pussy is something I love more than breathing I adore girl's taste and smell, and sincerely, when I perform oral sex, I do not do it for them... I do it for myself!!! Because I love it!!! 1 2 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 8/13/2018 at 6:35 AM, P-Spud said: I love everything about it. The smell, the taste, the feel. The hands on the back of my head as the moment approaches. I pity the men who deny themselves this pleasure. Fucking agree 110%!!! 3 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 11:12 AM, owlman76 said: I wonder if there's something healing in vaginal juices? Some hormons helps Little, but they help 1 1 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 7:13 AM, fannywatcher said: The very name "DJ Khaled" already indicates a total cretin before i even read the story.Anyone that puts the DJ before their name to me is a dickhead. Muahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 1 Link to post
Guest UnabashedUser Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Eating pussy is one of life's most supreme pleasures. I could do it (and have) for more than an hour but we both had to give in to the urge to fuck each other's brains out. I've seen more than my share of pudenda and enjoy every encounter with my wife and have written exhaustively about every millimeter of her fantastic quim especially in the urination configuration. The aroma of aroused pussy and one freshly fucked is an overwhelming aphrodisiac and the fine art of stimulating all regions and interconnected areas is one that requires much attention and practice. In my dating experiences, which, before marriage were extensive, I never had one partner turn me down when I wanted to go down, and many would urge me to do so of their own accord. I love ever aspect of gamahuching , eating out, muff diving, etc. More. More. More. Let me say great writing greedygirl. Scholarly work, professional in its depth and scope. I sense you work for a Uni, amirite? LOL. Will look forward to more screeds by you. Thanks. Edited August 23, 2018 by UnabashedUser Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 25 minutes ago, UnabashedUser said: More. More. More. Absolutely agree!!! 1 1 Link to post
MrTickle 58 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 6:13 AM, fannywatcher said: Anyone that puts the DJ before their name to me is a dickhead. D. J. Trump? Initials check out! 1 1 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, MrTickle said: D. J. Trump? Initials check out! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 1 Link to post
likesToLick 10,216 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 10:50 PM, spywareonya said: I adore girl's taste and smell, and sincerely, when I perform oral sex, I do not do it for them... I do it for myself!!! Because I love it!!! Same for me. That beautiful scent lights up my whole brain like an orgasm. I would do it for every woman in the world if I could. It fills my whole body with pleasure. Having said that, I do love the fact that it gives her pleasure too. It is such a delight to feel her climaxing with my mouth on her clitoris. 2 Link to post
likesToLick 10,216 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 7:41 AM, greedyneedygirl said: From an evolutionally perspective, oral sex serves no procreative function and there have been many theories as to what is driving this behaviour. Whatever it is, it is completely instinctive for me. I began fantasizing about doing it when I was just twelve years old. Nobody had told me it existed, I never saw any porn, there was no internet in those days, and it was never mentioned in sex education. I just knew I wanted to do it, and wanted it so much I could hardly think of anything else. I used to imagine the girls in my class, and dream about kissing their inner thighs, gradually going higher until I was kissing their sex. I didn't even know what a girl's vulva looked like, but I knew I wanted to kiss them. I didn't know that cunnilingus was a real thing that people liked to do. I thought that I was some kind of pervert and that everyone would hate me for it. (It is a vile cruelty that society puts young people through this mental torture by trying to keep them ignorant of sex after they reach puberty. ) I didn't get to try it for real until I was seventeen. I was very lucky to have an older girlfriend who not only encouraged me, but also lent me her sex manuals so I could learn to do it right. Men really do need instruction on this. I had no idea how sensitive a clitoris is, or how gently it needs to be touched, until she taught me. 2 Link to post
spywareonya 37,962 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 @likesToLick @greedyneedygirl The fact that something doesn't serve a reproductive function doesn't mean that much, or else, MEANS a lot. You have to understand that the deep psyche uses mind and the hormons it unleashes for evolutive aims Beyond mere survival I do not wanna call to the evolution of the soul Beyond the Death of the body (which is true indeed, but I do not wanna bother you with the occult in this thread), but indeed some instincts goes beyong reproduction and survival Indeed, some are easier than people thinks: the instinct to lick people's genitals simply comes from the strong pull that hormonal smell exerts on us, there and then When you got in frenzy, everything goes, driven by the overall sexual atmosphere!!! 1 2 Link to post
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